A CNN anchor today tore down Rick Scott, the founder of an organization that's been funding anti-health care reform protests and the former CEO of a hospital company that, as Sanchez pointed out, paid $1.7 billion to settle charges of overcharging Medicare and Medicaid.
It was brutal.
Sanchez started simply, asking Scott, the founder of Conservatives for Patients' Rights, if he takes credit for the recent disruptions at health care reform events. Scott responded, "It'd be nice to, right?" before saying he thought everyone should go to meetings, but "oughta be nicer about it."
Then Sanchez started in on him, describing the charges and fines against Scott's company, the Columbia Hospital Corporation.
"Some would argue, and it would be hard to say they're wrong, that you would be the poster child for everything that's wrong with the greed that has hurt our current health care system," Sanchez said.
Scott tried to defend himself, saying other companies were fined in the big health care fraud scandals of the 1990s. Sanchez stopped him.
"How much more wrong can you be than what you just said? Not only is your company screwed up, and you just admitted to it, but you said look at all the other companies, they did the same thing," Sanchez said. "It doesn't sound like a sterling system we have here, does it?"
And when Scott tried to shirk responsibility for the fines, saying they were leveled after he left the company, Sanchez put his foot down.
"No, no, no, no! You're playing with the facts, sir!" he said.
"Some people are gonna look at your record ... and say, 'This is the guy leading this charge? Is he the one we should be listening to?' Not exactly a perfect past when it comes to what's right for taxpayers and patients," Sanchez said.
"Absolutely," Scott said.
Sanchez also tore into Scott for buying up all the hospitals in an area and shutting down all but one. "Is that good for patients?" he asked.
"Absolutely. Now, first of, that didn't happen," Scott responded. He went on, saying it's good for patients to go to the hospital with the best equipment. Sanchez also reminded Scott of charges of poor, dirty conditions at his hospitals.


timba
August 6, 2009 5:18 PM
Wow - needs to go viral.
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incandenza
August 7, 2009 9:07 AM in reply to timba
I gotta say, though, this guy has had some excellent media training. This felt like a smackdown from Sanchez and business as usual to the insurance guy. It's hard to see most americans watching that interview coming away with a viscerally negative impression of the health care CEO. He handled himself very smoothly.
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Debra
August 6, 2009 5:40 PM
Now that's journalism! Expose the truth. There needs to be much more transparency on the motives of these people, including the politicians. Before they give their opinions on the reform bill, they should be forced to admit how much money they've taken from the health care industry. Their motives won't seem quite so noble when it's pointed out that they've been paid off.
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victoreador
August 6, 2009 11:18 PM in reply to Debra
Oh yes, yes, yes! The first question asked of any congressperson, in any interview format, whether print, radio, TV or public appearance with Q&A from the audience must be: "How much money has been donated to your campaign or PAC from the health care and health insurance industries in the past five years?"
Starting...NOW!
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JadeZ
August 6, 2009 5:42 PM
Just a perfect example really of corporations having rights that people do not.
Why wasnt this man put in jail for fraud?, when if it was you or me for a small fraction of what he did, would have been in jail and our lives ruined?
Damn straight this guy is the propblem and when will people wake up and realize what the real issues are in this country?
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AnswerFrog
August 6, 2009 5:46 PM
Awesome awesome awesome.
I posted about this yesterday.
Sourcewatch has a ton of info on this jerk.
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Conservatives_for_Patients_Rights
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=CRC_Public_Relations
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AnswerFrog
August 6, 2009 5:54 PM
He's runing CPR, is a billionaire, and was implicated in the greatest medicare fraud in history.
How he's the biggest cheerleader against HCR.
He apparently has some 20 mill in funding. I'd like to know from who exactly.
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CajunModerate
August 6, 2009 6:19 PM
c'mon, this isn't a brutal takedown of reform opposition. this is pretty mild, and it's more about tv's need to create theater.
i'm not arguing the perverse irony of the former Columbia CEO opposing health-care reform. but there is more context to the issues raised in this clip than what can be conveyed in a soundbite or by a coiffed anchor.
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AZGMan
August 6, 2009 6:38 PM
How long before Sanchez is fired?
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barrelhse
August 6, 2009 6:42 PM in reply to AZGMan
Or Limpballs tears him a new one?
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markg8
August 6, 2009 6:44 PM
Sanchez also tore into Scott for buying up all the hospitals in an area and shutting down all but one. "Is that good for patients?" he asked.
Rachal it would have been nice if you guys had left this part in. Why edit it out? C'mon.
"Absolutely. Now, first of, that didn't happen," Scott responded. He went on, saying it's good for patients to go to the hospital with the best equipment. Sanchez also reminded Scott of charges of poor, dirty conditions at his hospitals.
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tpmgary
August 6, 2009 7:03 PM
this is an example of what MSM can do if it gave journalism a shot.
Viewers like hard questions. if it gets the sations ratings, all the better.
I really think these cable networks ought to consider getting into the news business. Not just do it every now and again with some guests:)
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Marietz
August 6, 2009 7:05 PM
Our small community hospital is still trying to pick-up the pieces over a decade after Columbia gave the community a few months notice they were shutting it down after walking in pretending to be the saviors. It came in, wrecked havoc, then left. The wound is still healing. A pox on him and his ilk.
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twirling fartknocker
August 6, 2009 7:09 PM
he says no one was ever charged when the fines were issued. that sucks.
corporations enjoy the rights of personhood (which is ridiculous) and then responsibility for criminal actions are so diffused that no one is ever personally held accountable.
I say take the fines from the CEOs and anyone in the chain of command who made the fraudulent decisions and profited. I say end corporate personhood. also tossing some CEOs in jail
Goldman Sachs is reporting a profit in the billions now, which is totally f*d up as we, the taxpayers, have given them tens of billions directly and indirectly.
we worship capitalism to our own demise
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lapdogs
August 6, 2009 7:27 PM
Get this video going viral
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jmnyc
August 6, 2009 8:32 PM
This is hilarious. As Rick Sanchez said, who their right mind would put Rick Scott, one of the most disgraced CEOs ever, in charge of opposing health care reform?
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Donald from Hawaii
August 7, 2009 3:25 AM in reply to jmnyc
The key phrase here, of course, being "Who in their right mind ...?"
Do any of those screamers disrupting townhall meeting look or sound rational to any of you?
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Bruce100
August 6, 2009 8:36 PM
Why not just let the f*****s opt out of whatever health plan is enacted, including medicare. Let them put their ignorant money where their mouths are. I would guess half of them are alive because of Medicare. Look at them. These are the dumb shits who'll do whatever the industry tells them. What else do they have to do with their time?
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atticus1104
August 6, 2009 8:42 PM
Rick Scott, Glenn Beck, they're all crazy, but Glenn Beck just keeps getting crazier. In the middle of a debate on health care, he actually say that the government mandates that schools teach girls that they can have as many babies as they want and to not listen to their parents.
I swear. Here is the clip.
http://progressnotcongress.org/?p=2427
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Leftflank
August 6, 2009 9:26 PM
If these guys are really about health care for the people then they should take a modest salary & do the right thing. Rick Scott needs a trip to the emergency room & some bills to pay for the pleasure, daily, until he gets it. So do all the other bald headed, bald faced phonies that are against universal health care.
BTW, that smackdown counts as sort of a dirty Sanchez.
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Rich in NJ
August 6, 2009 10:03 PM
Single payer. That is all.
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Nancy Irving
August 7, 2009 12:52 AM
The clip doesn't show whether Sanchez clearly tied this guy and his organization to the teabaggers who have been disrupting the townhalls. Does he?
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cinesimon
August 7, 2009 2:29 AM in reply to Nancy Irving
That's a given - he's already bragged about it, and it's his website that is providing the tea baggers with both talking points, and tips o how to shut down the meetings through bullying, volume and plain nasty tactics.
He doesn't need pinning down on that subject: he's very proud of himself in that regard.
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Nancy Irving
August 7, 2009 2:08 AM
And doesn't Scott look suspiciously young for a 55-year-old man? Has he been drinking the blood of unbaptised infants, maybe?
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mattstan
August 7, 2009 2:16 AM in reply to Nancy Irving
Yeah, everything else aside -- and I know this is petty -- I still can't get over how weird he looks. It's like he's an emissary sent from the robber-baron homeworld.
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carlyt
August 7, 2009 8:00 AM
Why do ordinary Americans believe people like Scott? there is a related post at http://iamsoannoyed.com/?page_id=588
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par4
August 7, 2009 8:41 AM
He should be in a prison cell right next to Abramoff and Madoff.
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democraticwing
August 7, 2009 8:41 AM
Wow. This is what we so rarely see: a journalist who's actually prepared to do an interview. If CNN commits to this kind of reporting they might get somewhere against Faux. No -- about Lou Dobbs , , ,
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verite
August 7, 2009 8:45 AM
Why wasn't criminal charges brought up against Rick Scott? Could it be that his connections to Bush (former partner) and the GOP, had the Justice Dept look the other way? I haven't read anything on this aspect discussed but knowing how politicized the Justice Dept was during the Bush Administration, you have to wonder! Just a 1.7 Billion dollar slap on the wrist and all forgiven? Doesn't pass the smell test to me.
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T Groan
August 7, 2009 9:10 AM
Could somebody please provide a link to the TPM article on the Obama administration's attempted agreement with the pharmeceutical companies? You know the one that caps their contribution to the heaalthcare reform at 80 billion for a ten year period?
Folks, there will be no meaningful healthcare reform from the dumbocrats or the rethuglicans. The sooner the 'left' or 'liberal' communities realize this and quit throwing their votes to corporate candidates, the sooner the problem can be resolved.
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AnswerFrog
August 7, 2009 9:35 AM
"Folks, there will be no meaningful healthcare reform from the dumbocrats or the rethuglicans."
Oh, that's a real big fucking help. Aid and comfort to the enemy as far as I'm concerned.
"They're both bad" " This is doomed" ....
Do you see republicans talking this way?? No, they are moblizing.
The sooner people stop moping, handwringing and whining and actually fight for HCR, we'll get a better bill. Politicians need to be prodded and a show of support for HCR needs to be made.
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T Groan
August 7, 2009 9:49 AM
AnswerF, as long as you and the majority of the people view this as a dumbocrat vs. rethuglican fight there will never be a resolution that benefits the majority of the American people. Both parties are owned and the only hope is that people realize this and start voting for another party.
What help have you done? Blame the rethuglicans for everything? Sing the praises of Obama or some other corporate candidate?
As long as you view the rethuglicans as the enemy and the dumbocrats as the saviours there will be no hope. Is it too much to expect you to wake up from your delusions? Perhaps so.
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IceNine
August 7, 2009 5:03 PM in reply to T Groan
I strongly agree with Titus on this.
Don't misunderstand me: I'm not suggesting that there are no differences at all between the Demlicans and Repubocrats. They are both completely corporatist and devoid of any political meaning; the two parties are simply empty vessels that individual candidates fill up with whatever moonshine they choose, and slap a D or R label on it. How else do you explain crypto-Republicans being elected as Blue Dogs? And the so-called 'party' tolerating them?
Let me use an illustrative analogy appropriate to health care: One party is like the plague: Death is quicker, but accompanied by unendurable pain. The other party is like leprosy: It brings a disfiguring and lingering death.
My brother, bless his soul, argues that the solution is to elect "more and better Demlicans."
But I altogether reject the choice between leprosy and the plague. I always vote, and for each office on the ballot--but I never cast a vote for any candidate with an R or D after their name. Instead, I patiently write in the names of people I admire. In 2008, I wrote in Bernie Sanders for president.
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AnswerFrog
August 7, 2009 5:24 PM in reply to IceNine
This is idiocy, with all due respect.
The onyl sensible course is to elect better Democrats.
And if your third party candidate can't win in a Dem primary with liberal Dem voters, they won't win any general so you've got bigger problems.
This talk of "they are both the same" is defeatism and ideological masturbation. They are obviously not both the same, by any stretch. The racist thugs attacking town hall meetings is good example of the difference.
I guess real engagement isn't glamorous. It's easier to preen and indulge in fantasies. In that case, it's all about you. But I fight for HCR this year because I know -- first hand -- that the healthcos are murdering people with their recissions, denial of coverage, and other scams.
Every inch of turf matters in this fight. Real lives are at stake. People sitting on their ass saying it doesn't matter are self-centered jackasses. Again, no offense.
If you want a public option, fight for it NOW!!!!
Stop whining, stop handwringing, stop the pessimism and navel gazing. Get angry and tell Congress what YOU think.
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eve cairo
August 7, 2009 2:13 PM
Is is just me or does he look like the castrated UFO cult leader a few years back who said his group was going to be taken into outer space? Then they all did Jim Jones? Maybe somebody should check under his shorts.
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Andreams
August 7, 2009 2:54 PM
Does anyone miss the days when actual news and thoughtful words were spoken? I do and Sanchez makes me long for those days. I'm tired of talking heads reading scripts they haven't even seen until the words pop up on the teleprompter. Why do they even call them news channels?
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traitorjoe
August 7, 2009 2:58 PM
Rick Scott's crimes make him even more beloved to the Right Wing Refuseniks. "If he can steal $1.7 billion and get away with it, imagine what he can do for us!"
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