Man With Assault Rifle Outside Obama Event: 'We Will Forcefully Resist'

Why don’t' these make believe tough guys prove they have courage and sign up to fight for our country. They wont because they like to pretend they have balls

With all these fearful, ignorant f**ks coming out of the woodwork, it seems clear that the end of America is upon us.

Let's see........... 9/11 Truthers, check; Crazy anti-taxers (except maybe for wild defense dept. expenditures), check; Birthers, check. All afraid for a loss of freedom thru a tyrannical-majority elected-dictatorship. My only question, where were these people for the last 8 years before Obama's 8 months???

We can't handle people voting how we dont like, even if the MAJORITY of the country believes it, we dont really care.... thus we can shoot you.

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"We will forcefully resist people imposing their will on us through the strength of the majority with a vote."

You know, I agree that the majority can impose tyrannical dictates every bit as awful as can a dictator. But THIS?!

All taxation is theft? Fund government with a lottery? Is there a serious libertarian that can defend those positions?

This guy is a terrorist.

No, he's not. Misled, yes. Delusional, maybe. But a terrorist? No.

Death to money-robbing sandwich vendors!

You (TPM) should look into your continued use of the term "assault rifle" to refer to this weapon. A commenter in yesterday's thread with whom I exchanged was quite adamant that the AR-15 is not an assault rifle. Wiki, at least, confirmed his nit.

He is Timothy McVeigh with 12 more years of Fox and Rush influence

This guy is especially despicable because he is clearly trying to use his race to gain his fifteen minutes --

I don't know but would bet he was on Hannity last night -

Umm, how much more evidence do the FBI, Secret Service -- heck, even the local sheriff -- need to arrest these guys? The implied threats are there and to a large extent are pretty overt.

COME ON!!! Make an example of these crazies. SOMEBODY WITH THE POWER TO DO SO, PLEASE ARREST AND FILE CHARGES.

My more cynical self would love to see a brigade of licensed shotgun-carrying Black Panthers show up at the next Republican event, and see how that goes down with local law enforcement. But my rational self is more concerned with the fact that it takes some other nut only a second to surprise one of these gun-toters from behind, grab their weapon and start firing. It was Timothy McVeigh who wanted to water with tree of liberty with the blood of tyrants and patriots, and he did just that.

This guy isn't a Libertarian. The real Libertarians, as misguided as they are, wouldn't have anything to do with him.

He's a loser He's a weak, lonely sad sack who's trying to convince himself and the world he has giant manly parts and must be feared.

This is truly frightening. The man is making many anti-democracy remarks and views the gun as the only solution to thinks he dislikes.

A tax for health care I can tolerate, because it is investment in the country and ourselves. The tyranny of my neighbors, however, is something that is difficult to fathom.

He doesn't want to be part of a representative democracy?
Fine - tranq him, throw him in a military transport with his guns, and drop him off in Kazakhstan after shredding his passport and revoking his citizenship.
The flights are already scheduled - this will involve the least waste of taxpayer dollars to deal with this thug.

They need to brush up on their history. I know it's three words and not one, but it was taxation without representation the colonists were objecting to.

There is something not right about this guy. He is almost jovial about what he is doing. He talks about tyranny, unfair taxation, his right to bear arms as if it is some lightheated subject. He is wearing a slacks, white shirt and tie. He isn't serious about his views (crazy as they are) at all. It looks more like someone is paying him to do this, he has learned a script and this is not coming from him. There are a lot of unemployed people in Phoenix. Could Freedomworks being hiring?

They just want to prove that Obama wants to take their damn guns away.

since this guy thinks all taxation is theft, I assume he favors disbanding the military, since that's what a third of his taxes go to pay for (assuming he pays any taxes).

4409 - How clever! - not.

IMO, one of these guys wants to be martyr. They want to be tested by the Secret Service.

Clearly this demonstrates the need for universal health care, with a strong component for mental health care!

These birthers and deathers are a walking asylum!

All taxation is theft? Guess he doesn't understand the concept of the Commons, where the taxes go to pay for items the public shares, ie, roads, military, etc.

I for one am happy to see these idiots come out into the sunlight, instead of hiding behind a rock, taking pot shots. They have become the new face of the opposition and associated with Republicans in the minds of most voters. I don't think most people really want to turn the country over to them!

dude, i hate to tell you but you are not the majority; in fact as orwellian as it is, you are the minority. let's face it, what these and those yelling and screaming at town hall meetings want is to nullify the past democratically held election where president obama won by an overwhelming majority of american voters.

I hope the Secret Service have a permanent watch on these crazies. I've been worried about our president's safety for quite a while, and now I'm just plain scared. No difference between these men who live with violent thoughts and fantasies and the Oklahoma Bomber.

Why is the media giving these individuals such a broad forum? In a recent interview with a photojournalist, they noted that when the anti-reform individuals were "asking questions", they were video-taping their own remarks. So yes, we know they are there and they are being supported by "grass root" operatives, but to give them national air time, isn't that just empowering them? Making note of their presence is one thing, but it makes no sense to give them a wider forum, leave that to FOX. It makes no sense to play into the hands of these individuals and their supporters. Time for sites like TPM to wake up and understand that they are being "played for suckers".

I think this shows incontrovertibly that these so called protesters are anti-democracy, in which, of course, majority rules. And yes these are intimidation tactics, taken less from politics than from mafiosi, particularly the TeeVee kind...

But to me the real reading is is that these are poor, dumb sad sacks who have never had any power to affect anything in their lives, and they are lashing out at what seems to them an easy target, a black man who just because of majority vote became their president. They look so utterly bereft of intelligence, friendships, and any of the other things that make life seem liveable.

Why? largely because they are poor, uneducated and easy prey for demagogues.

Not a word about this in the Chicago Tribune.

This guy sounds like a black guy doing an impression of a white guy.

i think its all a fake. i think he is doing performance art. he's being as outrageous as possible to get attention. i bet he doesn't believe a word he is saying. its all a scheme to see how far he (and his cohorts) can go with this.

"i think its all a fake. i think he is doing performance art. he's being as outrageous as possible to get attention. i bet he doesn't believe a word he is saying. its all a scheme to see how far he (and his cohorts) can go with this."

Hmmm. . . I was thinking along similar lines, but with a more sinister plan-- if they can get the public used to the sight of many many people showing up with guns, how soon before an armed militia shows up at an Obama event? And when there are enough militiamen to out-gun the Secret Service, then what?

Oh, I'm just being paranoid, I'm sure.

What does '4409' mean? From the logo I'd guess it means something along the lines of "Let's Kill Obama [the 44th prez] in '09".

Chris reminds me of that Dave Chapelle skit where a blind black man is a KKK leader.

Idiot. There's absolutely no reason to carry an assault rifle into a setting like this. Bravado? Nope. A weak man with a vain attempt at being strong? Probably more like it. Bullies are nothing more than cowards with bad social skills.

Why is it that crazies like this crawl out of the woodwork every time the Dems are in power?

Sore losers? Mentally immature? Certainly distasteful, but why?

Did the constitution call for Medicare or Social Security? Know any senior willing to fight to give it up? Women couldn't vote, people of color weren't considered human beings and many people were property when the constitution was written. Katy "Awakened a Sleeping Giant" Abrams probably doesn't realize what going "back to the constitution" would mean for her as a woman. I am frightened because these people have no clue what the constitution really says, and they are going to open up something they have no control over. Sadly, their ignorance may hurt us all!

The Secret Service already establishes perimeters with increasing levels of security at various distances from where the President will pass by motorcade and from where he will be stopping. They need to expand the perimeter for people with firearms and prevent them from getting even to within one mile of where the POTUS is. Or ten miles.

come on guys! this is obviously a brilliant move from the obama campaign. this guy is a plant, a phony. it's parody. and it's perfect that he's intelligent, black, preppy, etc... but i wouldn't have thought you'd all fall for it. he's the democrat's new ashley todd...

Here is the funny thing though... Let us think about this logically:

1. You are walking around armed at a political event where the President is present.

2. The FBI, Secret Service and NSA are clearly going to be using full video surveillance and face recognition software, running the scans through state ID and drivers license data bases to identify you and locate your residence...even if no one officially walks up to you and asks for ID.

3. You will then no doubt be subject to full NSA wiretaps, electronic location surveillance and records searches, bank, tax, etc.

4. So you accomplished what walking around with your AR-15?

Painted a big bulls-eye on your own ass?

You think you are going to become some sort of gun control martyr when the ATF shows up and seizes you and your guns?

Or is it more likely they will serve the warrant at 4am and no one but you will even notice you are in custody.

No right wing hero press appearances... nothing. You will be held as a non person at the leisure of your government.

Until 45 days from now when your ex wife did not get the child support and files a complaint with the judge in family court...

That is what I think is funny about people who walk around with guns because they can... serious people don't make a show of it.

I'm sorry, but the notion that the only thing that prevented a Japanese invasion was their fear of the US gun owners is not based on any evidence other than the fact that gun owners enjoy making them selves out to be all heroic. I would wager that the fact they were already tied up occupying the most populated country on the planet as well as fighting battles on most of the islands in their region and therefore had neither resources or personnel to attempt to invade a country on the opposite side of the globe probably had a lot more to do with their decision.

Or perhaps your explanation for why they didn't invade Australia is also true for the US, "they just didn't get around to it."

(You know, I just noticed that you made most of these points yourself in a post to someone else, so I guess you do realize that there was more going on than the fact that Japan was afraid of US gun owners.)

Wow, sounds pretty reasonable to me!

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I am a strong gun rights advocate and even I can't believe this shit-for-brains. He might as well have been hired by the anti gun lobby. The best way to lose a right is to flaunt it. The Brady people should look up this shit-for-brains and thank him for his help in promoting gun control. Where is the NRA when you need them? Oh BTW, Wayne LaPierre, would you please stop spamming my inbox. I got the message the first fifty times.

Shame that the commenters here don't understand the purpose of the 2nd amendment, to protect the citizenry from the government. It's so frustrating because I love the liberal blogs like TPM and the Huff Post, but there's no realization they are abetting the establishment. Very disappointing.

Wow I cant believe what I am reading. I'm glad I dont vote for democrats any more. I got tired of all the lies. You know repubs are fat, lazy, uneducated, rich, racist, freedom taking, anti union, small penis, need guns for manliness, Oh the last 8 yrs were so terrible, blah blah blah.
Listen...you are being lied to. I know it is a shock. I was once one of you and I was shocked as well. Listen to yourselves. You are advocating that this fella receives a no knock warrant, audits, military raids on all his friends, and maybe even a secret service sniper's bullet for what...using his first and second amendment rights? Wake up folks. This guy isnt the fringe...you are. I will agree that his views on no taxes are not practical. The point is that spending is too high and taxes are too high and most of us are upset.

I'll sum it up like this. There are 90 million gun owners. We are not all timothy mcveighs. We arent looking for revolution. All we do is complain about trampled rights. However If the govt does cross the line with our rights (after the second amendment goes...the rest will follow)then we will get upset. If you think the military will protect all of you... (whisper) the military protects the constitution from all enemies foreign and domestic.... not the administration.

Well thank you for letting me vent. Remember if you wish to call me all sorts of bad names...that is ok I expect nothing different from your sort. It is almost like it proves my point.

There is an initial interview at nutcase headquarters where you can see Jesse Ventura posters and the banner, "VACCINES = POISON!" There is a later interview by Hancock and it looks spontaneous, Hancock just sought this guy out on the scene and it's a good-natured, "Golly, what brought you out today?" type of jovial interview by Hancock, who wears a light-green, plaid shirt and has a badge on a blue strap around his neck.

Is it spontaneous, though?

To answer, look at the clip back at nutcase headquarters, starting at around 23 seconds, and you can see Hancock, dressed as above. Of course he organized the whole thing.

"Taxation is theft."

The Constitution, as framed by the Founders/Framers, authorizes taxation. These loons reject the Constitution.