Since it published -- and removed -- a column describing the possibility of a military coup to "resolve the Obama problem," conservative magazine Newsmax has gone into full damage control mode, distancing itself from the columnist.
The columnist, John L. Perry, "has no official relationship with Newsmax other than as an unpaid blogger," a spokeswoman said in a statement.
That's not quite the wording on his Newsmax biography. There, Perry is described as an "award-winning newspaper editor and writer" who "contributes a regular column to Newsmax.com."
He's also a former senior editor for the site, working in that role from late 1999 until October 2001.
Perry has written for the site regularly -- nearly every single week -- since November 1999. Newsmax was founded in 1998. (Check out the archives here and here.)
On the site's "Blogs" page, he's listed alongside other contributors including Ben Stein, Grover Norquist and Christopher Ruddy, the founder and editor-in-chief of Newsmax.

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Savannah Evans
September 30, 2009 1:06 PM
What will David "Those Nasty Liberal Bloggers Use Swear Words!" Broder have to say about this?
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bvd
September 30, 2009 1:34 PM in reply to Savannah Evans
Nothing. He will say nothing. He will never write a single word in reference to this.
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PatentInvestor
September 30, 2009 4:17 PM in reply to bvd
As my crazy old auntie said, "if you don't dare say anything worshipful about a wingnut, don't say anything at all!"
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SantaMonica
September 30, 2009 1:28 PM
Give it a day or two and that Perry character will turn into wingnutlan's new cause célèbre. I bet Beck, Hannity and Savage will start discussing the INS and outs of discontent in the military... You know we're not talking about a coup, nooo, we're talking about a 'family intervention' - nice euphemism, just like 'enhanced interrogation technique...'
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ericf
September 30, 2009 1:30 PM
Though Perry put conditions on his call for a coup, he's clearly saying there's no alternative if his conditions are met.
This isn't surprising to those who know about an obscure incident in US history, the attempted coup against FDR. It failed only because the plotters picked as a leader a former general, Smedley Butler, who wanted no more being the bully for corporate interests and turned them in.
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connski
September 30, 2009 1:32 PM
The tin-pot authoritarian will out.
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Winston Smith
September 30, 2009 1:32 PM
Any publicity is good publicity.
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SantaMonica
September 30, 2009 1:35 PM
Methinks it's just about time for the rogue Wasila Weasel to chime in...
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SkippyFlipjack
September 30, 2009 3:01 PM in reply to SantaMonica
A post by an anonymous blogger on Kos caused her to blame the entire media for suggesting that her kid wasn't hers. But I'm sure she'll feel that this guy has nothing to do with Newsmax, an aberration that doesn't reflect the organization as a whole.
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Ann Arbor
September 30, 2009 1:38 PM
O/T but... Forty faces on that Newsmax blogs page, and all of them are white. And of the five women on the page, four of them are near the top, to lend a patina of gender diversity.
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counter coulter
September 30, 2009 1:58 PM in reply to Ann Arbor
That page seemed more like a circus freak show of wingnuttia more than anything else. The depressing part is how many of these absolute loons are TV regulars. *sigh*
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Ann Arbor
September 30, 2009 2:05 PM in reply to counter coulter
How about the guy with the column called "Conservative View." Now THAT's going out on a limb.
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counter coulter
September 30, 2009 2:09 PM in reply to Ann Arbor
My personal fav: "Liberal View: Polanski deserves no mercy"
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Papa Ray
September 30, 2009 8:44 PM in reply to counter coulter
What do you think people will think when hundreds if not thousands of liberals world wide...just say leave him alone?
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Chris
September 30, 2009 1:48 PM
This is how it works: These are right wing thoughts written down. From there it goes to their masses of crazies who already think Obama is foreign-born, wants to setup a socialist-nazi dictatorship and is already building concentration camps. My what a world we live in.
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Papa Ray
September 30, 2009 8:45 PM in reply to Chris
Well, which one of those can you prove are not true?
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EricR11
September 30, 2009 1:51 PM
This stuff is not funny at all. Anyone with half a lick of common sense knows that there is a huge elephant in the room here that no one wants to talk about.
Please get a copy of James Douglass' "JFK and the Unspeakable: Why He Died and Why It Matters"
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tomj
September 30, 2009 1:56 PM
I noticed that Drudge is silent on this subject.
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midnight rambler
September 30, 2009 2:01 PM
Not that it's necessary, but a couple of other points tying it to Newsmax: his column has a name on the site ("Right Angles"), and is copyrighted by Newsmax, not the author.
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maya89
September 30, 2009 2:02 PM
unbelievable.. man, what's happening this country? the election of Obama has really brought out the worst in these right-wing nutcases.. have you guys seen this?
National Review’s John Derbyshire: Women Should Not The Have The Right To Vote
http://thinkprogress.org/2009/09/30/derbyshire-female-suffrage/
unbelievable.. THIS is the "most advanced country in the world"??? I don't think this kind of primitive thinking exists in any other modern democracy in the world (maybe Italy's Berlusconi being the sole exception..)
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Bruce Webb
September 30, 2009 3:37 PM in reply to maya89
Derbyshire has been his own kind of crazy for a very long time now. I don't even have to look at the article to know what he has to say.
He reminds of DemocraticUndergrounds own Bob Boudelang
http://www.democraticunderground.com/bob/index.html
Derbyshire has better teeth and wardrobe than Bob but they sip from the same crazy fountain.
(Except that Bob is actually a parody and the Derb seems to believe every demented word.)
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Campesino
September 30, 2009 2:03 PM
Interesting that Gore Vidal thinks there'll be a coup, too
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article6854498.ece#cid=OTC-RSS&attr=797093
US under Obama could slide into military dictatorship, says Gore Vidal
Barack Obama is failing as President and the US is in danger of sliding into a military dictatorship, says Gore Vidal, the American essayist and intellectual.
In an exclusive interview with The Times, Vidal, 83, reveals that he regrets switching his allegiance from Hillary Clinton to Mr Obama during last year’s campaign to secure the Democratic presidential nomination.
“I was hopeful,” he said of Mr Obama. “He was the most intelligent person we’ve had in that position for a long time. But he’s inexperienced. He has a total inability to understand military matters. He’s acting as if Afghanistan is the magic talisman: solve that and you solve terrorism.”
America should leave Afghanistan, Vidal said. “We’ve failed in every other aspect of our effort of conquering the Middle East or whatever you want to call it.” Vidal, a friend of President John F. Kennedy, became an Obama backer because he “grew up in a black city” (Washington) and was impressed by Obama’s intelligence.
On Mr Obama’s plan to reform healthcare, he said: “He f***** it up. I don’t know how, because the country wanted it. We’ll never see it happen.”
Vidal added: "He loves quoting Lincoln and there’s a great Lincoln quote from a letter he wrote to one of his generals in the South after the Civil War. ’I am President of the United States. I have full overall power and never forget it, because I will exercise it’. That’s what Obama needs - a bit of Lincoln’s chill.” He also predicted Obama may be assassinated: “Just one lone gunman lurking in the shadows of the capital.”
America has no intellectual class and is rotting away at a funereal pace, he believes. “We’ll have a military dictatorship soon, on the basis nobody else can hold everything together. Obama would have been better off focusing on educating the American people. His problem is being overeducated. He doesn’t realise how dim-witted and ignorant his audience is.”
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rbeats
September 30, 2009 2:38 PM in reply to Campesino
Very interesting read.
I like the last sentence though. Gore has a point, and I agree with him. Obama is vastly underestimating the power of a marginal educated bigoted class.
I recall the way Obama handled that question in a town hall in which an old lady called in and said she heard that with Obama's health care reform a government worker would come to her house and ask her how she wanted to die.
The woman was serious (marginal educated) and Obama used some dry humor like "Well I can guarantee you that there are not enough government workers to come to everyone's home..."
That sort of response does not console an old ignorant fool, it only emboldens it.
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lousgirl84
September 30, 2009 3:15 PM in reply to rbeats
I agree with you. I remember that incident and I cringed at his response. He is in an unenviable position for sure. It is so frustrating to watch these people in action. If we had a decent MSM maybe it might be different. I am at a loss, really
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Papa Ray
September 30, 2009 8:38 PM in reply to rbeats
Yea, and those old fools always show up to vote.
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saulgoodman
September 30, 2009 2:40 PM in reply to Campesino
Don't let Vidal's enthusiasm for his own intellect fool you; he's got no special insight into matters of military affairs over any of the rest of us. And when it comes to political affairs, I've noticed he tends to be a bit on the, erm, jumpy side. During Bush, he often seemed convinced they were coming for him personally any day. If Obama declared an abrupt withdrawal from Afghanistan tomorrow, that's when you'd likeliest see support for a coup among certain higher-ups in the military chain of command. Remember, McChrystal and others are already steamed that President Obama has been reluctant to commit another 40,000 troops. The hard right elements in the military establishment (which, let's face it, are the ones most prone toward treason to start with) are much likelier to become turncoats if they view the administration as ceding the battle in Afghanistan, so it's hard to see where Vidal isn't just babbling like a panicked child again here.
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lousgirl84
September 30, 2009 5:23 PM in reply to saulgoodman
Thank you. I needed that.
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Mooser
September 30, 2009 3:09 PM in reply to Campesino
Gore Vidal wrote that? Not likely! Oh, wait a minute Gore Vidal, not Al Gore! I was thionking of Al Gore.
Yeah Gore Vidal wrote that, okay.
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Peter Principle
September 30, 2009 4:21 PM in reply to Campesino
"He loves quoting Lincoln and there’s a great Lincoln quote from a letter he wrote to one of his generals in the South after the Civil War"
After the Civil War? Lincoln was killed just five days after Lee surrendered at Appomattox. Gore is losing it, I think.
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lousgirl84
September 30, 2009 2:08 PM
I hope he's wrong
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Chris
September 30, 2009 2:27 PM
But y'all, this is what it is. Don't just wish it away. Hold the right wing/Republican Party to their own words and behavior. They can sit in their circle jerks and bump peter heads all day long, but we aren't any better if we don't make them own it.
If what Vidal says is remotely accurate, if what JMM talks about daily is even close to being correct, the right wing/Republicans are winning the debate with "death panels," communist takeovers, concentration camps, and military coups; and all of us are just as guilty to let it slide by. If they've won, then my God what have they won?
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Papa Ray
September 30, 2009 8:49 PM in reply to Chris
"They can sit in their circle jerks and bump peter heads all day long, but we aren't any better if we don't make them own it."
I was told only liberals did that.
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Walter Mitty
September 30, 2009 3:46 PM
I guess the right wouldn't whip up enough crazies from the teabagger masses to take a shot as President Obama, so now they are planting the seed in the mind of the Military men and women. That's their ultimate end game here, whip up the crazies and hope they act on your words. Then Beck, O'Reilly, Limbaugh, Hannity and all the rest will claim "It was some crazy fringe lunatic - nothing we say matters, we're just mindless entertainment".
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Papa Ray
September 30, 2009 8:51 PM in reply to Walter Mitty
"--nothing we say matters, we're just mindless entertainment".
Well, aren't they?
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kaol
September 30, 2009 3:49 PM
I was interested in the way Perry was parsing the exact oath that officers take, so I did a little searching, and immediately came up with this from 2003:
http://www.gopusa.com/opinion/re_1230.shtml
Key paragraph: The election of Bill Clinton in 1992 changed everything for those who swore the oath, but who were stuck serving under a man who candidly "loathed" the military's disciplines and, unavoidably, its middle-class conservatism. Clinton's eight-year politicization of the military caused a renaissance of officer resistance against popular liberal agendas that were inherently at odds with military service. Keeping in mind their oath, which, by its very language specifies obligations to the Constitution and not necessarily to the sitting president, officers either ignored Clinton's directives or vocally confronted the damaging effect of his enduring loathing of the military.
So the idea that an oath somehow overrides the very thing it is meant to defend is not something Perry thought up by himself. Apparently there are people in the military who convince themselves that protecting and defending the constitution does NOT mean protecting and defending Article 2, Section 2, that makes the President the Commander in Chief, nor Article 1, Section2 and 3, that give the House and Senate sole power to impeach and remove a President, etc., etc. The attitude of Perry and the self-righteous dope from gopusa.com gives one a good idea of the general lawlessness of the radical right. They whine a lot about the constitution, but generally aren't too well versed in it, and generally don't care to be. They are the law, and the rest follows from that.
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kaol
September 30, 2009 4:08 PM
One further comment, where it concerns the military that Perry would like to carry out this coup, which comes from the Uniform Code of Military Justice (TITLE 10 > Subtitle A > PART II > CHAPTER 47 > SUBCHAPTER X > § 894 Art. 94):
§ 894. Art. 94. Mutiny or sedition
(a) Any person subject to this chapter who—
(1) with intent to usurp or override lawful military authority, refuses, in concert with any other person, to obey orders or otherwise do his duty or creates any violence or disturbance is guilty of mutiny;
(2) with intent to cause the overthrow or destruction of lawful civil authority, creates, in concert with any other person, revolt, violence, or other disturbance against that authority is guilty of sedition;
(3) fails to do his utmost to prevent and suppress a mutiny or sedition being committed in his presence, or fails to take all reasonable means to inform his superior commissioned officer or commanding officer of a mutiny or sedition which he knows or has reason to believe is taking place, is guilty of a failure to suppress or report a mutiny or sedition.
(b) A person who is found guilty of attempted mutiny, mutiny, sedition, or failure to suppress or report a mutiny or sedition shall be punished by death or such other punishment as a court-martial may direct.
Which tells you exactly what the little game outlined by Perry, and hinted at by the comments in gopusa.com column is, and what its consequences can be. Furthermore, it tells you exactly what the purveryors of this dangerous nonsense are.
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MB
September 30, 2009 4:28 PM
From Perry's biography on Newsmax it seems that he was a liberal Democrat in the '60s and '70s -- evidently he worked in the Johnson and Carter administrations, and was part of the Center for the Study of Democratic Institutions, a liberal think tank.
What's this guy's real story? What happened to him between then and now? Inquiring minds want to know....
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saulgoodman
September 30, 2009 5:03 PM in reply to MB
Maybe he ignored the warnings about the brown acid going around?
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lousgirl84
September 30, 2009 5:26 PM in reply to MB
Both and he and David Horowitz were liberals in the 60s. Horowitz is part of the Newsmax organization too.
Pond scum - both of them
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commie atheist
September 30, 2009 5:21 PM
So, the military will depose a sitting president after 8 months in office because he has promised to reform health care, which possibly might even include a public option, but may not; because he won't build a missile defense system in Eastern Europe; and because he may not send additional troops to Afghanistan.
Seven Days in May this isn't. At least in that book (and movie), the somewhat plausible rationale for the military coup was that the supposedly weak-willed liberal president was going to sign a nuclear disarmament treaty with the sneaky Soviet Russkies, which would leave the US defenseless when the USSR attacked us with all the weapons they had hidden away. This NewsMax article is just another masturbatory right-wing fantasy which will never see fruition, kinda like President Palin. And with all due respect to Gore Vidal, whose writings I have greatly admired, anyone who is afraid of this scenario actually coming true is in need of the same medication as the teabaggers who want Obama to keep his hands off their medicare.
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lousgirl84
September 30, 2009 5:25 PM in reply to commie atheist
Thank you for that post. And BTW, that was a great movie.
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commie atheist
October 1, 2009 12:33 AM in reply to lousgirl84
Yes, it was. This is a great exchange from the movie:
Kind of sums up the whole fringe, teabagging, Fox News-watching conservative movement right now. When elections don't go the way the like, they demand redress, at the point of a gun if need be. Assholes.
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Grackle
September 30, 2009 5:36 PM
Newsmax is funded by Richard Mellon Scaife. They knew exactly what they were doing when they published that column.
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Papa Ray
September 30, 2009 8:40 PM
Reference Perry's incredibly ignorant post:
I not only condemn his article, but call it stupid because he has no idea how the U.S. Military works.
But…he covers many points that are very high in the worries of many people in the U.S. some of them already proven true, some speculated at and others that are more worthy of being scare tactics than anything else.
But his premise of the Military being involved in or the method of salvation or revolution is wrong, and wrong-headed.
Now I can see ex-U.S. Military involved in coming back and running for office in their states or even national offices. I can see x-Mil joining organizations such as The Oath Keepers. I can see x-Mil coming back and setting up local militias, and going to Tea Parties and even speaking at them. I can see them going door to door getting out the vote to get Obama and the Democrats out of office.
I can also see as a last resort, mass resignations of Officers in our Military services.
But in the bitter end, if salvation or revolution is needed for the preservation and protection of this Republic, it will fall to each citizen to stand up, load up and march forward to do it.
Papa Ray
Central Texas
The Second Amendment is a doomsday provision, one designed for those exceptionally rare circumstances where all other rights have failed - where the government refuses to stand for reelection and silences those who protest; where courts have lost the courage to oppose, or can find no one to enforce their decrees. However improbable these contingencies may seem today, facing them unprepared is a mistake a free people get to make only once.
2009 Judge Alex Kozinski
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commie atheist
October 1, 2009 12:39 AM in reply to Papa Ray
You, sir, are a moron. Why don't you load up, stick your weapon in your mouth, and pull the trigger? We would all be better served.
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waypasthadenough
October 1, 2009 10:49 AM in reply to commie atheist
Maybe, like me, he's saving his ammo for garbage like you...
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Legion303
October 1, 2009 11:15 AM in reply to waypasthadenough
You guys are so precious when you're trying to act tough on the internet.
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commie atheist
October 1, 2009 2:54 PM in reply to waypasthadenough
Well, if you're really "waypasthadenough," why don't you follow my advice to the other idiot, or leave and find another country more conducive to your paranoia. We won't miss you, I promise.
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Nancy Irving
October 1, 2009 1:00 AM
Shorter John L. Perry:
"Hey, wouldn't it be cool if the U.S. Army removed Barack Obama in a coup d'etat?
"I mean, not that I'm advocating it or anything, but wouldn't it be COOL?"
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waypasthadenough
October 1, 2009 10:33 AM
If the military rebels it will have to be from the middle ranks on down. The upper ranks are vetted for loyalty to the NWO. You can count on that.
It's already 'fascism' and headed toward full blown communism. The sheeple and most 'patriots'/conservatives/truthers/paulbots/whatever will be willing slaves because they are unwilling to do what is required.
It will take many expensive suits hanging along Pennsylvania Ave. to fix this mess if it can be fixed.
Don’t understand? Start here:
http://willowtown.com/promo/quotes.htm
Think globally, fight locally. Aim small, miss small. One shot, one dead "Liberal"(communist/fascist).
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realthog
October 1, 2009 10:50 AM in reply to waypasthadenough
Just think, waypasthadenough, if we had a decent healthcare system you could afford to stay on your meds.
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commie atheist
October 1, 2009 3:01 PM in reply to realthog
This idiot thinks that liberals=communists=fascists. No, he's too far gone for anything short of a bullet to the brain to help in any way.
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ionotter
October 1, 2009 1:21 PM
Yoo-hoooo! Funny thing, this "interweb"? Just like a real spider web, you'd be AMAZED at all the dead things you find hanging in it, long after the spider is gone. Such as all the way back from 2001?
And remember, folks, screenshot or it never happened.
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