The aggressive punch-throwing man whose finger was bitten off at a health reform rally in California last night now has a name: William J. Rice. And chances are, he won't be charged with a crime.
That's according to Capt. Ross Bonfiglio, a public information officer with the Ventura County Sheriffs Department, who I just spoke to. Bonfiglio said Rice -- an anti-reform protester whose severed finger was reattached last night courtesy of Medicare -- is 65, lives in Newbury Park and has cooperated with sheriffs deputies.
Bonfiglio said his department has a description of the accused finger biter -- a pro-reform demonstrator who Rice punched before the biting -- but hasn't identified a suspect yet.
Rice told sheriffs deputies that the biter left the much larger pro-reform rally across a busy intersection in Thousand Oaks, CA, last night to have words with Rice at a small anti-reform rally that had set up across the street. Rice -- who our eyewitness said was aggressive and much bigger than the pro-reformer -- told deputies that the smaller man insulted him. "Rice says he felt threatened," Bonfiglio told me, "and decided to punch the guy in the nose."
The pro-reformer then got up off the ground, the two fought, and the pro-reformer bit Rice's pinky finger off.
Rice told deputies he assumed his finger couldn't be salvaged, so put his injured hand in a towel and walked to a nearby hospital. Another man reportedly picked up the severed pinky and brought it to the hospital, where it was reattached.
Bonfiglio said that while specific charges will be up to the district attorney, he thinks the biter will face a felony mayhem charge, with Rice facing a misdemeanor assault charge at most, and perhaps nothing at all.
"He's more a victim at this point," the captain said, even though "he was admittedly the primary aggressor."
"Nothing's black and white in a case like this," he said, noting that proportion can matter just as much as the order of events.
"If Rice was the initial aggressor and the guy cut his head off, it doesn't mean it was justified."
Late Update: I just got Rice on the phone. He said he's not speaking to the media. His brief statement before hanging up: "Surely there's more important things in this world than me getting my finger bit off."
Later Update: There was some confusion earlier about whether Rice's finger was reattached or not. We've talked to the hospital -- his finger was not reattached.

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Thucydides Junior
September 3, 2009 3:35 PM
Not sure how a deliberate punch to the face, which could have had a deadly result, is a misdemeanor and an accidental biting off a finger is a felony. If someone can explain that, please do.
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richard f
September 3, 2009 4:48 PM in reply to Thucydides Junior
"Accidental" biting off a finger? How could biting a finger be accidental. Clearly biting a finger all the way through is a very serious offense, more serious than throwing a punch. It doesn't take much explaining for this one.
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Thucydides Junior
September 3, 2009 5:01 PM in reply to richard f
So you know he meant to bit the finger off, rather than just biting on a finger that was shoved in his mouth? Have you ever been in a real fight? I've bit in a fight. Didn't mean I wanted to make a snack lunch of a digit.
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richard f
September 3, 2009 5:12 PM in reply to Thucydides Junior
I've been in a real fight and never bit anybody but I think I know something about the act of biting. Nobody bites a human appendage accidentally. Even if you find a finger in your mouth, it takes a volitional act to chomp down on it and an act of both volition and strength to chomp down hard enough to sever it.
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ohyeathatsright
September 3, 2009 4:18 PM
"If Rice was the initial aggressor and the guy cut his head off, it doesn't mean it was justified."
But he didn't cut his head off--he bit off the finger of a guy who (reportedly) forcefully put (or ended up with) his finger in the other man's mouth. Man, the cops do exactly what the Republicans do. Red herring! Red herring! Straw man! Straw man!
That said, the other guy should have stuck around to talk to the police. Leaving the scene of a crime is a big deal and they're going to use this against him in court.
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Thucydides Junior
September 3, 2009 5:03 PM in reply to ohyeathatsright
You're right there. He should have stuck around.
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jet
September 3, 2009 4:52 PM
"I just got Rice on the phone. He said he's not speaking to the media. His brief statement before hanging up: "Surely there's more important things in this world than me getting my finger bit off.""
Ummmm He was just on Fox News with Neil Cavuto
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amazed in the usa
September 3, 2009 5:07 PM in reply to jet
...plus he mentioned the fact that his finger was NOT reattached. He said that because of the bacteria in a human bite there was a near 100% chance that the finger could not be reattached. So there ya go, Medicare saved some money. Unless you are a horse and your jaw locks I would have to believe that to bite off a body part may be deliberate.
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dal
September 3, 2009 5:11 PM
"Surely there's more important things in this world than me getting my finger bit off." was a pretty good line.
...until Rice just did an interview ON FOX!! Oh, by the way, his MEDICAID paid for the reattachment.
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SqueakyRat
September 3, 2009 5:11 PM
"Proportion"? This, from cops who think nothing of tasing people for talking back to them?
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John Sawyer
September 3, 2009 5:35 PM
Rice punching the pro-reform guy reminds me of some comments I saw posted in the past month, by some people calling themselves former Marines: "I want some pro-reform guy to just look at me funny--when he does, I'll punch him in the face." These guys think of themselves as tough (Rice doesn't have to be a Marine to have the same attitude), but they go off the deep end when someone "looks at them funny", or, in this case, calls the "tough guy" an idiot. The pro-reform guy who took a chance and walked up to an anti-reform guy, and told him he was acting like an idiot for waving his arms around, running after people, yelling, aggressively intimidating them--like an idiot--is a tougher guy than this idiot.
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chaunceybaker
September 3, 2009 6:22 PM
The fact that the "pro" guy left the scene is bad news for him and irresponsible to say the least.
However, I've watched enough Judge Judy to know if you're the first person to through a punch, you are responsible for whatever happens. The "proportionality" argument from the police is weak, I'll wait until the DA makes a charge.
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123easyABC
September 3, 2009 8:34 PM in reply to chaunceybaker
"However, I've watched enough Judge Judy to know if you're the first person to through a punch, you are responsible for whatever happens."
Maybe you ought to spend a little less time watching TV and a little more time around real judges and lawyers.
Throwing the first punch is irrelevant. If you feel you are about to be attacked by a whack job who just crossed a street to "get in your face" and "punch back twice as hard" as Barack Obama has exhorted his followers to do, then you are completely justified in pulpifying said nutbags face.
If said nutbag then mutilates your hand and flees the scene while MoveOn.Org issues apologies for the actions of its community activists, then the police aren't going to charge you because you haven't committed a crime.
Leaving the scene of a mutiliation, however, is a crime, and the Ventura County Sheriff's office has a really good idea who the perp is. MoveOn ought to do the right thing and have the guy turn himself in.
They are very close to obstructing justice.
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AwkwardSilence
September 4, 2009 3:29 PM in reply to 123easyABC
Good God, you're inconsistent.
So, reasonable self defense: proactively "Pulpifying" the face of someone who may or may constitute a threat to you.
Unreasonable self defense: Biting someone who is "pulpifying" your face, and who openly admits that their finger ended up in your mouth because they were busy pounding you with their fist.
Please, manufacture more faux outrage over this-- it's delightfully entertaining.
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ignoreland
September 4, 2009 4:29 PM in reply to 123easyABC
Simple as ABC - MoveOn has nothing - NOTHING - to do with the biter's actions. Forget the obstructing justice BS.
Yes, the person who throws the first punch bears the responsibility for the consequences. Nothing would have happened had he not made the first demonstration of physical violence. Rice is the one who should be charged first, and unless the cops can prove intent, the biter at best should be charged with leaving the scene.
I suspect the only time you spent around lawyers and judges was having your public defender plead you guilty for jerking off in public. You sure like to do it here.
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Barbie
September 3, 2009 7:09 PM
Maybe this'll put an end to all the finger pointing in Washington. It had to be said.
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AlphaLiberal
September 3, 2009 7:52 PM
Big guy starts fight with little guy, punching him in face. Little guy protects himself with teeth.
Conservatives (and LaRouchies) side with big guy and denounce the little guy. Apparently little guy who disagreed with them was supposed to just accept his beating.
It is a pretty emblematic story.
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123easyABC
September 3, 2009 8:22 PM
"Later Update: There was some confusion earlier about whether Rice's finger was reattached or not. We've talked to the hospital -- his finger was reattached. Phew."
Really?
I don't think you "talked to the hospital" and I don't think they divulged privileged patient data to you, since that's against the law.
Secondly, I just saw an interview with the victim. He told FoxNews that his finger was not, in fact, reattached.
So, it's pretty clear that you guys here at TPM are just making things up and trying to pass off updates as fact.
It's illegal for the hospital to have divulged patient data to you. Explain how you got it.
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123easyABC
September 3, 2009 8:29 PM
"The fact that the "pro" guy left the scene is bad news for him and irresponsible to say the least."
Yea, running from the scene of a crime, where you've just crossed a street and mutilated someone ... I'm guessing that's going to be pretty bad news for that MoveOn.Org activist.
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AwkwardSilence
September 4, 2009 4:36 PM in reply to 123easyABC
Let's see...
Details important enough to mention: "mutilated someone", "left the scene of a crime", and the oh-so-important, "crossed a street" (What? He .... crossed a street?!?!? This monster must be stopped!)
Minor, eensy-teensy detail we can omit: "Was assaulted with punch to face"
I'm assuming you've seen the pictures posted online, which demonstrate that the short, pudgy, bald guy with glasses was hardly an imminent threat to Rice. I'm also assuming you're going to continue to defend him (and an added bonus, paint him as a victim). Man, I'm looking forward to that.
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Jack Torrance
September 4, 2009 3:40 AM
Aaah, I get it. Personal responsibility is great up until the point where you lose the fight you started and have to be bailed out by the government's health coverage. What a complete hypocrite.
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ignoreland
September 4, 2009 4:30 PM
Oh, and in high-profile cases like this, the hospital can get a waiver to speak to the press. That's why they have, you know, spokespeople.
Moron.
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