Newsmax Columnist: Military Coup May Be Needed 'To Resolve The Obama Problem'

This is called sedition and treason. It is a federal offense to promote the violent overthrow of our democratic government. I say haul his ass off to jail and stop this nonsense now before it gets out of hand. Oh yes, I believe Perry's idea has been tried..does Saddam Hussein's name ring a bell?

"an alternative, non-violent solution to the Obama problem"? How about let him be our president, asshole? He's doing a great job. Keep the coups to yourself. Crazy.

FWIW, Media Matters has the column archived for anyone who whats or needs to read this dreck in the original.

http://cloudfront.mediamatters.org/static/pdf/newsmax-20090929-perry_coup.pdf

Yeah, he's right. Democracy sucks.

"Describing what may be afoot is not to advocate it"
Nice little disclaimer. Consider the source: it's NewsMax
Would Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh, both highly experienced military men, be leading the charge?

What he's inciting is conspiracy for overthrow of the U.S. by extra-Constitutional means in a time of war; i.e., treason. The lawful penalty is death.

Prior to his executions he needs prophylactic and probative water-boarding. Only as a precaution and on a daily basis. We can't resolve fully with which co-conspirators he has been hatching this junta, until he his vigorouly water-boarded. For his own protection, this should be in another country like maybe Egypt (but undisclosed) where he will be freed from the distractions of phone calls, visitors, and human rights review.

We know for a fact that he has accomplices overseas; we just don't know where. Enhanced interrogation is the only way we can protect American citizens.

This is blatant sedition. Jail this idiot.

I'm not gonna bother to read the cached version of this idiot's article... But, if he has 'sources' in government or military that lead him to believe there is a 'gaining' possibility of some form of Coup, wouldn't the Secret Service and other agencies HAVE to investigate that immediately?

Has Perry been involuntarily committed yet?

I am not one to advocate a return to the type of America when John Adams presided over sedition laws (although, we may have been as insane then as we are now).

Sunlight is the best disinfectant. Let this suckhole rant. Now we know his name, and the particular make of soapbox from which he waxes ignorant.

For those who can't bring themselves to read the article, short version:

1) Obama, as commander in chief, will make military decisions that will cause us to "lose" in Iraq and Afghanistan.

2) Since this is a threat to the nation and the constitution, officers in the military will need to take control to "save" our democracy.

Still shorter version - The need to "win" our so-called wars is more important than our democracy, and justifies a military coup.

War, forever and ever, amen.

Perry doesn't really expect a military coup against the President. He's just doing his part to carry out the GOP Playbook:

1. Use apocalyptic rhetoric that exacerbates fear, bigotry and extremism among the uneducated and intolerant.
2. Counter any liberal criticism of your inflammatory calls for action by saying they can't take a joke or you misspoke.
3. Keep turning up the heat and act surprised when somebody finally heeds your calls for extreme action.
4. Be sure to maintain you were only speaking figuratively and you are being unfairly blamed when violence occurs.
5. Keep your celebrations behind closed doors.

Thanks, TPM, for highlighting this issue and finding an archived version of the original text. Much appreciated.

I find the original article really weak, in terms of the list of "grievances". I mean, a much better case could have been made against the last cabal. And, in fact, it was.

-- ARG

I do hope that TPM has forwarded this Perry's article to the Secret Service or to the White House. This is pretty serious. Perry needs to at least be interviewed by Federal Law Enforcement to find out from whom did he get his information and when. He must know something that the rest of us do not know. Lets find out what he knows.

In the previous, I meant to say "by the judicial" branch, sted of legislative. Thank you.

Whoa boys. This is silly. Surely there are some fine young but unbalanced lone gunmen on the CIA, er, I mean, Al Qaeda, payroll.

So Perry advocates a Putsch to deal with the "Obama problem". Well if he wants to know what a real Nazi looks like, he can just look in the mirror.

I am very concerned. There is no mistake that an elite corporate conspiracy has had their hand at controls of the US and Intl means of power for some time. They obviously feel a genuine threat to their position of absolute, although velvet if not invisible hand of power. The catch phrase that caught me was the "Obama Problem" in that is it the problem of Obama or his policies right now per se or the "Obama Problem" in that they have not been able to truly smear him and discredit his populace power and they know it.

Understand what 'they' are through this guy Perry is saying, that in their minds Obama will be re-elected in 2012 and the policies and initiatives will make him stronger.

This is something to watch very closely. I am concerned but also know that 'they' have continually miscalculated everything from for the last 6 years.

The Republicans -- the party of Recession, Restroom Sex and Rebellion. I bet they do well with that in 2010.

This is fascism by definition. It's time the word was used correctly, to define the people who actually promote its tenets, rather than as a wildly splashed, ignorant epithet against whomever one wishes to vilify.

Fascism is a typically racist ideology for sure, but anti-Semitism per se was Hitler's special contribution, not a defining aspect. Fascism is a system of governance whereby military and industrial leaders control government. It is by definition capitalist, elitist, non-democratic, and especially, nationalistic. Think Pinochet, Marcos, Duvalier, and all the other vicious right-wing dictatorships the US has supported in the name of anti-communism.

Think Dick Cheney, Glenn Beck, Anne Coulter, John Perry, and all the other "patriots" who find democracy disturbingly unreliable.

It appears some on the right are looking for their own Pinochet. I wonder if they'll find one. Gen. Boykin appears to be auditioning for the part, anyway:

http://washingtonindependent.com/61121/fear-of-fascism-gay-agenda-dominate-conservative-kickoff-for-midterm-elections

Um, we have ELECTIONS in this country, not coups. What does the right not understand about that? I'm not surprised, though, given that right wing ideology is inherently undemocratic.

I've never heard of of NewsMax. I guess that's a good thing.

It's true that members of the military, both past and present, do tend to vote Republican. But it's also true that, whatever party the President belongs to, he is their Commander in Chief, and they take an oath to follow his orders just as they would the orders of their immediate commanding officer. Why this author thinks that the military would betray that oath is beyond me.

As a retired enlisted member of the military, I can state that the oath I took was to the Constitution. The oath also included the phrase "and obey all lawful orders of those appointed over me." Any officer trying to order subordinates to carry any activity in support of a coup could legally be disobeyed since, by its very definition, a coup is an unlawful action. Any member of the military who voluntarily supported such an action would certainly be liable to a court martial. As there is no declared state of war, I don't think the death penalty would apply.
An idle thought, but just how much time has Mr. Perry spent in the military? (As opposed to fantasizing about using his "AK-47" on those he disagrees with).

With all these trolls out there saying stuff like this, something bad is going to happen. When it does, all the cockroaches will run and hide and claim they had nothing to do with it.

This is sedition, pure and simple. The Secret Service is obligated to investigate any and all threats to the president. This wing-nut has threatened the President of the United States. Like it or not, Barack Obama is the duly elected president. Don't like that? Well for the next four years all I can tell you is, "Too bad, you lost, suck on it!"

Our Constitution is being destroyed. The Honduran president was legally flown out of the country in his PJ's when he tried to illegally change their Constitution. I found a website where a retired lawyer/constitution professer explains the "legislative language" in HR 3200 is not for affordable health care but is all about Congress giving our freedoms to the executive branch (Obama) which is non-reveresiable. Long but worth it.
A retired attorney and Constitutional law instructor, has written his analysis and critique of the proposed health care bill.

Well, I have done it! I have read the entire text of proposed House Bill 3200: The Affordable Health Care Choices Act of 2009. I studied it with particular emphasis from my area of expertise, constitutional law. I was frankly concerned that parts of the proposed law that were being discussed might be unconstitutional. What I found was far worse than what I had heard or expected.

To begin with, much of what has been said about the law and its implications is in fact true, despite what the Democrats and the media are saying. The law does provide for rationing of health care, particularly where senior citizens and other classes of citizens are involved, free health care for illegal immigrants, free abortion services, and probably forced participation in abortions by members of the medical profession.

The Bill will also eventually force private insurance companies out of business and put everyone into a government run system. All decisions about personal health care will ultimately be made by federal bureaucrats and most of them will not be health care professionals. Hospital admissions, payments to physicians, and allocations of necessary medical devices will be strictly controlled.

However, as scary as all of that it, it just scratches the surface. In fact, I have concluded that this legislation really has no intention of providing affordable health care choices. Instead it is a convenient cover for the most massive transfer of power to the Executive Branch of government that has ever occurred, or even been contemplated. If this law or a similar one is adopted, major portions of the Constitution of the United States will effectively have been destroyed.

The first thing to go will be the masterfully crafted balance of power between the Executive, Legislative, and Judicial branches of the U.S. Government. The Congress will be transferring to the Obama Administration authority in a number of different areas over the lives of the American people and the businesses they own. The irony is that the Congress doesn’t have any authority to legislate in most of those areas to begin with. I defy anyone to read the text of the U.S. Constitution and find any authority granted to the members of Congress to regulate health care.

This legislation also provides for access by the appointees of the Obama administration of all of your personal healthcare information, your personal financial information, and the information of your employer, physician, and hospital. All of this is a direct violation of the specific provisions of the 4th Amendment to the Constitution protecting against unreasonable searches and seizures. You can also forget about the right to privacy. That will have been legislated into oblivion regardless of what the 3rd and 4th Amendments may provide.

If you decide not to have healthcare insurance or if you have private insurance that is not deemed “acceptable” to the “Health Choices Administrator” appointed by Obama there will be a tax imposed on you. It is called a “tax” instead of a fine because of the intent to avoid application of the due process clause of the 5th Amendment. However, that doesn’t work because since there is nothing in the law that allows you to contest or appeal the imposition of the tax, it is definitely depriving someone of property without the “due process of law.

So, there are three of those pesky amendments that the far left hate so much out the original ten in the Bill of Rights that are effectively nullified by this law. It doesn’t stop there though. The 9th Amendment that provides: “The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people;” The 10th Amendment states: “The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are preserved to the States respectively, or to the people.” Under the provisions of this piece of Congressional handiwork neither the people nor the states are going to have any rights or powers at all in many areas that once were theirs to control.

I could write many more pages about this legislation, but I think you get the idea. This is not about health care; it is about seizing power and limiting rights. Article 6 of the Constitution requires the members of both houses of Congress to “be bound by oath or affirmation” to support the Constitution. If I was a member of Congress I would not be able to vote for this legislation or anything like it without feeling I was violating that sacred oath or affirmation. If I voted for it anyway I would hope the American people would hold me accountable.

For those who might doubt the nature of this threat I suggest they consult the source. Here is a link to the Constitution: http://www.archives.gov/exhibits/charters/constitution_transcript.html
And another to the Bill of Rights: http://www.archives.gov/exhibits/charters/bill_of_rights_transcript.html
There you can see exactly what we are about to have taken from us.