President Barack Obama appeared on five separate Sunday morning news shows today -- essentially all of them except FOX News Sunday. Obama was dutifully on message, and stuck to many of the same talking points -- sometimes word for word -- in just about all of his appearances, whether discussing race, Afghanistan, investigations of the CIA or health care reform.
It was health care reform, of course, that clearly seemed to be Obama's top priority this morning. Again and again, he tried to paint proposed reform as modest and moderate, describing it as "well within the mainstream of what Americans have been talking about for years," "very modest" and that it's not "a radical plan."
The President also tried to position health care reform as urgent -- with lines like "everyone acknowledges this is a problem" and "standing still is not an option" -- and doable.
"I don't think I've promised too much at all," the President told Bob Schieffer on Face the Nation.
"We've agreed to about 80 percent" of what will go into the proposal, he told David Gregory on Meet the Press -- a figure he repeated several times in other interviews. "The key now is to narrow those differences."
There were a few hiccups, notably the President's jousting with George Stephanopoulos on This Week about whether his plan would necessitate a middle-class tax hike. But overall on health care, the President seemed to be able to stick to his somewhat vague talking points: health care reform is necessary, moderate and achievable.
Since Rep. Joe "You Lie" Wilson's (R-SC) outburst during Obama's speech to a joint session of Congress earlier this month, questions of if and how race factors into opposition to the President and health care reform have become louder and more prominent. Obama tried to downplay the issue Sunday, stressing in multiple interviews that while some people certainly oppose him because of race -- just as some voted for him because of race -- he sees the majority of opposition to reform as an ideological issue about the size, role and efficiency of government.
"What's driving passions right now is that health care has become a proxy for a broader set of issues about how much government should be involved in our economy," he said on Face the Nation.
Afghanistan was also an issue all morning. The President avoided saying if or when he'd ask for more U.S. troops, but did say he's willing to do whatever's necessary to achieve his "core goal, which is to dismantle, defeat [and] destroy Al Qaeda and its allies that killed Americans and are still plotting to kill Americans."
Obama offered mild criticism of last month's allegedly fraudulent Afghan presidential elections, telling John King on State of the Union, for instance, that the reports of fraud "look pretty serious."
There was talk of investigations -- CIA and ACORN -- and even a World Series prediction. (The President won't bet against his Chicago White Sox till they're mathematically eliminated from the playoffs, but otherwise thinks the St. Louis Cardinals and New York Yankees look strong.)
Obama seems to have gotten what he wanted this morning -- his message blanketing the airwaves without any major distractions, surprises or deviations. He didn't make much news, even though he was all over the news shows. He was consistent, and seemingly everywhere. The question now seems to be, does it matter?

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bluebell
September 20, 2009 5:41 PM
What was the point? If he was trying to sell something, you couldn't figure out what it was. He's selling moderate healthcare. What's that about? Don't get too sick?
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Salmo
September 20, 2009 5:55 PM
You can't put an edge on mush. So, his sales pitch did not matter to me because he still is just mushy where we need pointed reform - getting the insurance industry bloodsuckers out of the way so Americans can get health care in a timely and affordable manner.
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JimmyBobby
September 20, 2009 6:17 PM
The problem poor Obama has is that this health care reform is the quintessential "horse designed by a committee." What we need and what works is single-payer. But single-payer causes enough American heads to implode that we're not going to get it, so we try to design something else that works...sort of but can't really achieve the simplicity and cost-effectiveness of single payer and that will be full of unintended consequences, cruelties, inefficiencies and unfairness. How does a smart man present and defend such a monstrosity?
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elle a
September 21, 2009 3:25 AM in reply to JimmyBobby
you will not get single payer. ever. deal with it.
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CranialRectalLoopback
September 21, 2009 6:08 AM in reply to elle a
Except when we turn 65 and qualify for Medicare, DEAL WITH IT!
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TheRealFish
September 21, 2009 7:28 AM in reply to JimmyBobby
And yet, and yet. Switzerland and the Netherlands, to name two of several, have universal health care yet their plans are not government run nor government funded. What they share is the fact they regulated the snot out of the private, for-profit entities on all sides that provide that care and fund it.
Don't misunderstand me: I am in favor of the models that exist and work where the government is, at least, providing "single-payer" insurance for care (Canada comes to mind, where the government is the health insurer but the doctors, hospitals and ambulance services are all private entities and doing just fine, thank you).
Of course, plans like that are also not on the table right now either. I believe the mushiness of his message is reflective of the current status of bills formed and forming in Congress.
I keep being reminded of what LBJ told Martin Luther King concerning his eventually-signed voters rights act and other reforms that ultimately happened. He told King that he was in favor of all those things he signed into law in the end, but advised King and his followers that they must "make me do it."
King heard that advice, and a million people descended on Washington DC demanding exactly those changes.
We've already seen the corporate pumped and primed T-baggers do their DC thing (with crowd sizes that would only fill a moderate sized pro football stadium). So where is the unified pro-reform group of demonstrators "making" the president and congress act?
(I know, I know: November elections were the demonstration, yada, yada. I agree, but that was yesterday. In our Short Attention Span Theater world, however, that same fervor and those same numbers need to rise up, right now, somehow, and do it all again, or the Baucus Plan for "reform" will be the private-insurance-loving law of the land.)
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Bademus
September 21, 2009 11:07 AM in reply to TheRealFish
You have a point and I do think we need to continue to make our voices heard. One problem is the media isn't focusing on the supportive voices. Here in Seattle we had a HUGE pro-healtcare rally at the end of August with tons of creative signs, even people in costume and with props. Westlake Park downtown was packed. The opposition was very small. This got zero media attention. It was very frustrating. Crazy gets attention and that small minority is drowning out the majority that want reform. I don't hear anything about the many productive and polite town halls or the pro-healthcare rallies, but 25 people can gather with obnoxious, vitriolic signs and get on the national news.
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hewhohasnoname
September 20, 2009 6:18 PM
Yes, it matters. First of all, President Obama was able to take his message to audiences who may not have heard it. With all of the misinformation, being able to deliver your message directly to the people yourself is an asset.
But, I think there were three other, more important, aspects of Obama's move today: 1) He was able to reassert himself as being fully in control of the healthcare debate. Correctly or incorrectly, fairly or unfairly, he'd been accused of languishing during the debate. However, over the last few weeks, he's arguably succeeded in firmly rebutting that notion that he's not in control of the healthcare debate. He showed himself to be firmly in control. 2) He's imbuing the debate with a sense of momentum, and even inevitability. He frequently talks about "when" a bill is put before him, etc. Removing conditional terms (i.e., "if") also gives a sense that he's in control, but it best serves to dishearten and/or soften opposition. When something seems inevitable, people seem less inclined to protest vigorously. [The same phenomenon happened with the Sotomayor nomination.] 3) This is rarely noticed, but Obama is carefully laying the groundwork for the Democrats to pass healthcare reform with little to no Republican support. He frequently mentions their political motives and that they are not serious about offering solutions; they are only interested in obstruction for the sake of potential political gain. The more people understand that Republican opposition is largely self-serving, the more leeway Democrats have in moving forward. And, as an added benefit, he's helping to marginalize Republicans by painting them as opposed to reform, which is overwhelmingly popular (~75-80% in some polls I've seen); the meta-message is that "Republican values are not your values. Democrats are fighting for you."
So, yes, indeed this does matter, and it matters tremendously.
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mJJ
September 21, 2009 2:55 AM in reply to hewhohasnoname
I think you miss the point. Fox News and particularly this reporter, well known for his tireless support of the Fox agenda and its anti Obama spiels (tirades) would have never given him a fair hearing. As reporting goes, it is difficult to see Chris Wallace on Fox news giving Obama a decent hearing so i think Obama was wise to just skip that trap they had laid for him. Chris can wonder all he likes but I am certain he is absolutely aware of Chris's own hate filled statements and Fox News continual hate mongering against Obama. Chris has to be utterly dull witted to not KNOW exactly why Obama wisely passed on the invitation.
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elle a
September 21, 2009 3:26 AM in reply to mJJ
umm, wrong thread?
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fbacon2
September 21, 2009 11:33 AM in reply to hewhohasnoname
What? Obama didn't produce a finished bill from his jacket pocket ready to sign in front of David Gregory? If not, what was the point of taking the initiative, shaping the narrative for the week, dominating the news, putting opponents on their heels, keeping health care front and center, and on and on?
You're right, of course, and this question of "Does it matter?" posed at the end of the post showed how myopic some of us have been of late.
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awb
September 20, 2009 7:45 PM
I think you miss the point
By dominating the conversation and being cool/calm and clear -- he makes the argument - without words - how out of whack the "nut" fringe is
This is the first Sunday in months that the Sunday morning news is not about a crazy as a Town Hall or a March or a Confrontation
So while I agree one of the President's goals was to "not" make news - he quietly drowned out the crazies
And Chris Wallace' whining about being left out - only made Fox "part" of the nut fringe - which they are
This was a quiet appeal to the middle to refocus and think
And I think he reached that audience
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Homefries
September 21, 2009 12:13 AM in reply to awb
Precisely the point. More shouting matches--no matter how correct the progressive arguments might be--only benefit the opponents of serious health reform. There are more than enough people already who are shouting on both sides of the fence. By not shouting, or accusing, or whining, Obama legitimizes his campaign for change. He legitimizes his campaign because he isn't presenting a ideological "in your face" presentation. There's no need. His ideological supporters already support him, it's the non-wingnuts he's reaching out to. And they aren't going to be swayed by confrontational rhetoric.
Most people don't want to understand the arguments, they just want to feel assured that they are getting the best deal. Obama is demonstrating that he understands the playing field. The fact that his opponents are getting unnerved by this approach is proof of its effectiveness.
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VivaAmerica!
September 20, 2009 8:39 PM
His media blitz was not for the political junkies on this or any other site like TPM. It was for the average American who is not tuned in, it was for the average American who is confused by what they are hearing on the news or their misinformed friends/family.
Ask someone completely disconnected from your world how he did.
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brat
September 20, 2009 9:26 PM
Here's the deal: Communication research indicates that the more TV folks watch, the more "sensitive" they are to "elite" cuing. So, over time, the viewers will be more accepting of Obama's message. Furthermore, the Obama team is really smart. By talking to everyone BUT Fox, they're chipping away at Fox's viewers (they'll go elsewhere). And finally, going to Univision is just genius. That's where things are--not Fox.
The Obama team is playing long-ball--they're going to keep Obama on the air....it drowns out everyone else. And if they can push Fox into the ditch, it's a great two-fer.
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mcrose68
September 21, 2009 1:42 PM in reply to brat
I had initial questions about his skipping Fox, but at the end of the day you don't have to be a genius to know that if Fox had footage of Obama, they would have used it as nothing more than a lead-in to a bunch of angry cranks.
By denying Fox the lead-in footage, the cranks just look like cranks. Not cranks-on-equal-footing-with-The-President. At the end of the day, as sad as it makes me to write-off the Fox viewing crowd, I think they made the right call.
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ru4862
September 20, 2009 11:04 PM
the president squandered an opportunity to lay his core principles for a meaningful health care reform w/ a robust public option. Sadly, he did everything to avoid discussing the public option, which was disturbing on many levels.
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masha
September 21, 2009 1:39 AM
it matters not so much as a matter of substance but of strategy. he dictated the conversation and dominated the discussion. otherwise, there would have been a vacuum and who knows what the right would have come up with. this way, they are responding to him and not him responding on monday to what they would have said today.
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impik
September 21, 2009 2:49 AM
It matters only because whenever he is NOT talking, the media is obssesed with Republicans lies and fear mongering. When he wasn't out there during August, we saw what happened. It's crazy, but this is the sad reality of these days.
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willia451
September 21, 2009 6:46 AM
masha, impik, and VivaAme are the closest to being correct; IMO. This was not about specific policy. It was about drowning out everyone else, talking to the non-wonk public to allay fear and get them on board, and setting up the Republicans as the Party of "just say no".
It was strategic. And timely. With the Senate Finance Committee due to mark up legislation this week, a calmer environment to do that in should work to the Dems advantage.
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PaulC37943
September 21, 2009 8:49 AM
I'm not sure how effective President Obama was at clarifying healthcare reform for viewers. He was probably more successful at lowering the temperature of the discussion. However, I think he was most successful at managing media coverage in that Obama being on the Sunday talk shows means hardly anybody else was.
I saw a bit of Meet the Press and I thought the Graham and Boehner follow-up looked pretty weak compared to the Obama interview. The panel on This Week after the interview was inconsequential. Bob Schaefer had Obama only. I didn't catch CNN or Univision.
That kind of overpowering media management was the real story here. I thought it was a very shrewd demonstration. The bonus was, the White House got to thumb its nose at Fox News. What goes around come around. Hey Fox: you want to run a reality show during a presidential address to a joint session of Congress? That's fine. No Obama interview for you!
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T Groan
September 21, 2009 8:59 AM
Why can't he just say 'In Europe they pay half as much and get better health care. Plus their longevity rate is higher and sudden infant mortality rate is lower'?
Oh of course that would upset monied interests and we can't have that can we?
His television appearances were little more than cotton candy in an attempt to sell a watered down policy that will benefit the insurance companies greatly.
The country desperately needs a leader.
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lousgirl84
September 21, 2009 9:46 AM
testing
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Jonathan Swiftboat
September 21, 2009 10:15 AM
I did not see all the interviews, but it seemed the President missed an opportunity to challenge Senate Republicans to commit to a straight up or down vote on the finalized health care reform bill. Forget about reconciliation and needing 60 votes to invoke cloture on a filibuster--Republicans should state now if they will recognize majority rule by acceding to a vote after a reasonable period of time, say one week, for debate and consideration of amendments. The talk show hosts, newspapers, blogs and Americans generally should begin proactively pressing Republican leaders on this point.
The Democrats won in 2006 and 2008---that counts for something.
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Michael Powe
September 21, 2009 10:19 AM
It appears that Obama has pretty much left the design of the healthcare reform package to Congress because of the implosion of the Clinton, White-House designed package of 16 years ago. Who knows if this is the correct approach, or not. The news recently has carried a flurry of articles detailing various abuses by health insurance companies. Perhaps, those stories will reinforce a demand for change.
I haven't seen any reporting that indicates there are significant numbers of fence-sitters on this issue. So, changing the minds of opponents is probably the only game in town. Has Obama ever been effective at that?
Thanks.
mp
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JohnW1141
September 21, 2009 11:05 AM
I don't like Obama anymore.
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