In a segment just now with Sen. John Barrasso (R-WY), Fox News's Shepard Smith gave a stunning argument in favor of the public option.
"Over the last 10 years health care costs in American have skyrocketed. Regular folks cannot afford it, so they tax the system by not getting preventive medicine," Smith said. "And we all end up paying for it. As the costs have gone up, the insurance industry's profits, on average, have gone up 350 percent. And it's the insurance companies which have paid and which have contributed to senators and congressmen on both sides of the aisle to the point where now we can't get what all concerned on Capitol Hill all seem to [believe] and more than 60 percent of Americans say they support, a public option."
He refuted Barrasso's argument that the public option is a government option.
"Every vote against the public option is a vote for the insurance companies," Smith said.
Video after the jump.
The likelihood of a bill without a strong public option "has been an enormous win for the insurance industry," Smith said. "But I wonder what happens to the American people when we come out with legislation which requires everyone to have insurance ... but does not give a public option. Therefore, millions more people will have to buy insurance from the very corporations that are overcharging us. ... It seems like we, the people, are the ones getting the shaft here."
"How do we keep costs down without a public option?" he asked.
Smith is known as Fox's least conservative voice, and someone who marches to his own beat. So of all the channel's personalities, he's the most likely to make this argument.
In June, Smith earned praise -- and ire -- for calling out right-wing Fox emailers who he said were "out there in a scary place" after the shooting at the Holocaust Museum.
And in April, Smith famously condemned torture. "We are America!" he said, banging the table. "I don't give a rat's ass if it helps. We are AMERICA! We do not fucking torture!"
In today's interview, one could argue that he was just playing devil's advocate. But in the next segment he interviewed a former aide to Sen. John Kerry (D-MA) on the same topic. While he did take the other side -- that a public option would put the private insurers out of business -- he did so with less passion and spent much less time than he did with Barrasso.
All in all, it's still a stunning clip.

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jerryfatheart
October 6, 2009 4:57 PM
For what it's worth, Bill-O said "The Folks" should have the option of an affordable government plan. BTW, am I weird for being slightly creeped out by his use of the phrase "The Folks"?
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ohyeathatsright
October 6, 2009 4:58 PM in reply to jerryfatheart
Whatever happened to this? Was there any walking back on that point from Papa Bear?
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Frex
October 6, 2009 5:05 PM
My, oh my, oh my. It is true and interesting that Bill O has been warm to some sort of public option.
Frankly the Dems will screw themselves if they pass a HC bill w/o some sort of public option. One of two things will occur if there is a mandate and not public option, the cost of the plan will be too high or the costs not covered by the plan will bankrupt those who believe they have coverage. Either way the Dems will be blamed.
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Fightin' Dems Against Obama's Surrender
October 6, 2009 5:16 PM
Love ya Shep!!!
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Fightin' Dems Against Obama's Surrender
October 6, 2009 5:19 PM
Looks like Shep has seen CAPITALISM: A LOVE STORY, and he was moved to start kicking some ass... NICE!
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Seeryer
October 6, 2009 5:19 PM
Shep did not like being outed in Outrage that debuted last night on HBO. Or maybe he did. Now he is free to be his true self. And it appears he is a liberal. Go Shep!!!
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lousgirl84
October 6, 2009 6:04 PM in reply to Seeryer
I saw that show last night. It really was very good. I have never watched a minute of Fox New sin my life so I know nothing about him except for some of his commens made of late which appear to be diametrically opposed to his station's point of view.
If he is gay, he should step up to the plate and be proud of who he is , but I am loving the outers.
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SkippyFlipjack
October 6, 2009 6:34 PM in reply to lousgirl84
Smith had this awesome slip-up years ago doing Fox entertainment news. I was surprised he kept his job! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0snyiFIQok
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Indie Pro
October 6, 2009 5:27 PM
Shep has his moments. Like in New Orleans during Katrina.
like when he took on Nader, on the night Obama won the election when Nader said it remains to be seen if Obama is an Uncle Tom. Shep didn't let him get away with that. It didn't go unnoticed.
Shep has his moments.
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synchronicity
October 6, 2009 5:28 PM
I am surprised he still has a job... wonder how long he'll last at the Fairy Tale News Station?
A comment about 'some sort' of public option... No, we need a true public option that reduces costs and is available to everyone.
Tell your reps no true public option, no mandate.
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theone718
October 6, 2009 5:38 PM
If you bring back the "Day in 100 secs" you have to continue ending with Shep. At the end of the day, deep down, he seems like the type of guys who is connected to reality.
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neesy08
October 6, 2009 5:49 PM
"where is the real shepard smith?" that was the real shepard smith!i sw ths at 3pm, and knew smith was going to be "fair and balanced." his program is the only on at FN i can stomach
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rynato
October 6, 2009 5:53 PM
I dislike Fox News Channel as much as the rest of y'all (and I have to watch it for weeks at a time, whether I like it or not - long story).
But cut Shep a break. I believe he is the real deal and his show is actually not as obnoxious as pretty much everything else on FNC.
I also think that Murdoch is interested in earning money above everything else, and this is somewhat of a cynical move to add a dash of blue to FNC. I am thinking that he let Shep off the leash a bit. Don't any of you make the mistake of thinking that anybody goes 'off the reservation' for very long at FNC without someone above approving of it.
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rynato
October 6, 2009 5:54 PM in reply to rynato
...meant to say as well, Murdoch certainly sees the direction the country is going and he's not above softening the party line a bit if there's ratings to be gotten.
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cinesimon
October 6, 2009 5:55 PM
Didn't that Republican just argue against his own party's position on a number of issues?
Such as Medicare fraud(the GOP are against addressing it), preventative medicine(the GOP calls that government control over people's lives)etc etc?
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jerryfatheart
October 6, 2009 6:01 PM in reply to cinesimon
They don't argue positions, let alone with reasoning. They argue terms. Superficial, focus group-tested terms.
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runfastandwin
October 6, 2009 6:01 PM
If the Dems come out with an unfunded mandate and no non profit government program, they are screwed and they know it. Hence eventually they will come around and offer a non profit government sponsored insurance program. What they oughtta do is open Medicare to everyone, it's the only thing that makes sense.
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3star2nr
October 6, 2009 6:02 PM
shep smith does not disappoint!!!!!!
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Publishermike
October 6, 2009 6:04 PM
How long before he has to apologize to Rush Limbaugh?
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Jane in NY
October 6, 2009 6:05 PM
Sounds like Shep is experimenting with a populist approach -- I think this may be a new Fox fad.
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dukesutton
October 6, 2009 6:06 PM
Shep is a very strong news anchor. His newscasts are well produced and I'm sure he takes a strong hand in crafting the scripts and researching the interviews he conducts.
If Fox really wanted to help the local affiliates, they would produce a half-hour national newscast, with Shep anchoring, to go head-to-head with BriWi, Gibson (Soon to be Diane Sawyer), and the Katie Couric experience.
They won't do it though, they don't want to siphon off a key part of their 6p-10p block.
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Kuyleh
October 6, 2009 6:08 PM
Common sense and (far more stunning) TRUTH from Faux News?
Excuse me, I need to go see if Hell froze over.
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Walter Mitty
October 6, 2009 6:28 PM
Wallace called out McDonnell on his thesis a week ago as well. I think the Fox News desk is trying to seperate itself from the biased hyper-partisan drivel of Beck and Hannity.
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Steve Garrett
October 6, 2009 7:27 PM
WOW, I'm going to hate it when he has to leave FOX for personal reasons next week.
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Primordial Ooze
October 6, 2009 10:08 PM
Barrasso curiously fails to note that, of the 5% of people that account for 49% of healthcare expenditures, 43% are 65+ and 61% are 55+ years old. 65+ yr olds consumed 36% of healthcare expenses. So, that's your answer as to why Medicare is spending money. Sure, lifestyle can play a part in some of the major conditions responsible for this concentration of expenditures (mood disorders, diabetes, heart disease, asthma, hypertension), but the "fixes" Barrasso proposes will not do squat to really address the problem.
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Colin Raymond
October 7, 2009 3:52 AM in reply to Primordial Ooze
Either 99% of health care spending is on both the >55 and the smoking drinking obese or else Barrosso is suggesting that his plan has incentives to keep people from getting old.
Does anyone know the source of these statistics that he cites?
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mcdonald928
October 6, 2009 10:29 PM
Right on Shep. Sounds like he is undergoing a long personal conversion toward a progressive political position.
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JRH2
October 6, 2009 10:51 PM
I live in Senator Barasso's state. His argument about tort reform, as a GOP goal, is a farce. In WY there was an attempt to get medical legal caps in our state about 2 years ago. WY is a very republican/conservative state. What happened? It got voted down handily. Why, because of the famous attorney of our state (Jerry Spence) went around telling everyone that this infringed on personal rights and that statistically doctors were more dangerous than guns.
I believe that tort reform is necessary to make our health care system work better, but the GOP continuing to argue that they are in favor of it is a complete joke.
Go Shep go. I cheered him when he came out against torture and I cheer him in this interview.
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dragnet
October 6, 2009 11:53 PM
Shep has simply gone too far this time. They will be gunning for him after this. First O'Reilly, now Shep?? They have to make an example of him before this gets out of hand.
The Brown Shirts simply cannot continue to tolerate his insolence---he must be dealt with. I anticipate an all-out campaign to discredit and destroy him.
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Arsenalroo
October 7, 2009 4:30 AM
Shep lives a twisted life. I've seen this spontaneous reason a few times and I'm astounded he still haves a job there. Must create cog dis with his watchers.
I guess he only blurts out truth when his BS collector is full. The problem is that Fox can point to him as the "fair and balanced" part of the channel. He might be Murdoch's inner liberal surrogate.
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jgf0346
October 7, 2009 8:49 AM
Sounds as though Shep is ready to move to MSNBC or maybe Fox can Trade him for the Lou
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go2goal
October 7, 2009 10:06 AM
MSNBC needs to dump Lou, Joe Scarborough, and Pat Buchanan.....they deserve Fox news and vice-versa.
Shep, like the majority of Americans, recognizes that our country and our democracy is in a crisis. And we won't turn things around until we end the days of: A government of the corporation, by the corporation, and for the corporation.
The health care reform process is just another confirmation of who they really work for - many of the dems are as bad as the repubs. And I think Shep, along with the rest of us, are getting fed up. Is there anyone worse than Max Baucus on the Republican side?
I'm pretty fed up that Obama has allowed Baucus and some others to hijack the process for the insurance companies. If the Baucus bill isn't completely shredded, then the dems will lose the next election and we'll all be paying health insurance premiums while standing in bread lines.
What Shep should unravel and expose at FOX.....the corporate money and power that's being directed by The C Street group in D.C.. (The Family - The Fellowship). When we start exposing and extracting that secretive and highly powerful group from our government, then we'll make progress for the American people and our Democracy. C Street makes K Street look like child's play.
The family has FOUR primary industries that they focus on and where they control the senate and the house:
1) Defense industry
2) Energy and power
3) Banking & Insurance (this group has held bank reform in check and now they're winning the health care reform battle)
4) Agriculture
Every Republican member of the Senate Finance Committee is a member of C Street (the fellowship).
With energy: It's Exxon and Halliburton
With food and agriculture: It's ADM, Conagra, Monsanto, and etc..
With defense: it's Boeing, Raytheon, General Dynamics
With banking & insurance: it's Goldman Sachs, AIG, The Aetna, Citi/Travelers, BofA, then secondarily it's the other big banks and other insurance companies
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Schmed
October 7, 2009 2:14 PM in reply to go2goal
MSNBC needs to dump Lou,....
Dobbs works for CNN.
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Newton King
November 7, 2009 5:17 PM in reply to go2goal
We do not have a democrecy, we have a Republic. look up the difference.
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JON M. STOUT
October 7, 2009 10:16 AM
Fox News - Fair and Balanced. All opinions are aired unlike the Obama News Agencies - NBC, MSNBC.
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JEP07
October 7, 2009 10:41 AM in reply to JON M. STOUT
Well, lets see how well developed Shep's story becomes. He may actually move to MSNBC before it's over. And not because Fox is fair and balanced, but because MSNBC has become so.
One other thing the idiot ideologues like Mr. Stout haven't figured out yet; the healthcare debate crosses party lines, when you get outside political circles, it is one of the few issues that the middle really owns, and owns it with a "public option" mind set.
Even some of the most conservative citizens agree, healthcare matters more than energy, in terms of "compassionate conservatism" and a public option would give the monopolists now managing and profiting from our healthcare mess, a swift kick in their free enterprises.
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Mateo123
October 7, 2009 2:11 PM
The Democrats will be in trouble if a mandate passes with no public option. They will be way too vulnerable to hot-shot stories like folks filing bankruptcy because their $1,000 monthly health care bill (not unlikely for a family) was unaffordable.
They'll never subsidize enough to make the mandate work and in the future, once the budgets get tight, the subsidies will be cut. The best result is a real public option (or a modified single payer plan) that everyone can join. A distant second is a modified public option that limits availability to those in certain income brackets who are uninsured. I don't however, see this as desirable simply from an equity/fairness perspective. I shouldn't be forced to pay the 20% private insurance markup (in comparison to a public option) merely because I make more than others who are eligible for the public option.
It just looks so bleak at this point because the best solution is the one that's off the table.
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Schmed
October 7, 2009 2:18 PM in reply to Mateo123
So, if the Dems screw the pooch with the lack of a public option, do the people go running back into the arms of the country-wrecking, We Work For Corporate America Republicans who they've voted against for the past two cycles?
My guess: if there's nobody left to trust, then either a 3rd party springs up or most people will sit out elections, totally disillusioned.
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PushMe-PullYou
October 7, 2009 7:15 PM
Sen. John Barrasso (R-WY), another empty suit full of GOP talking points on health care.
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bakeneko
October 7, 2009 7:35 PM
I've loved Shep since I saw the clips of him on Fox imitating (e.g close-up on face at weird angle with puppy-dog eyes) and otherwise taking the piss out of Glen Beck on the day nobody showed up for his national protest.
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Newton King
November 7, 2009 5:05 PM
The constitution does not give congress the power to spend money except to pay the bills of the u.s, the common defence and general welfare of the U.S. Why has the media not questioned them on this? read u.s. constitution article 1 sectiion 8. It lists the only powers congress has. James Madison said congress powers are few and defined. why not hold them to thiose powers.
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Newton King
November 9, 2009 10:45 AM
When will the media start to question congress and the president on the bills they pass and the money they spend when they have no powers granted by the constitution to do so? we would have no deficate if they were held to the powers they are given by the constitution. taxex would be much lower if they could not spend it on bridges and roads built to pay back their buddies for donations.
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