This really says more about the people who elect this man, and those who sit with him as party members, than it does about him. If he can be chosen to lead his constituents then they must be more demented than he.

What a pathetic act of politicizing this debate. What a complete act of spitting in the face of bi-partisanship. What a total lack of respect and outright contempt for the other side of this debate. What a joke.

Okay, now I'm done talking about the inevitable Democrat party backlash and pissy protest to these comments by Senator Kyl that are simply his own opinion and have never been definitively debunked.

Duh!, of course Sen, Kyl wouldn't know anyone who has died because of lack of health insurance, the same way he doesn't think health insurance should cover maternity because he is not a woman. Straight line facts.

For the thousandth time, the problem is that the deceptive, lazy, and irresponsible media NEVER EVER calls these people on their bullshit as they utter it.

Kyl: "I'm not sure that it's a fact that more and more people die because they don't have health insurance."

Responsible American news media: "We have here a Harvard study that says 45,000 Americans die for that very reason. What is your response to that?"

Kyl: ?

You'll never see that happen.

I'm pretty sure being as godawful stupid as Sen. Kyl is directly tied to being republican.

We're all falling for the same old trap. Healthcare execs and insurance company decision makers have developed the current system. The outcome they are seeking is one of revenue and profit growth and maximum consumer satisfaction as long as revenue and profit growth can be maintained.

I am their typical "satisfied" customer. I can go to what ever doctor I want, so can my wife and kids. Just walk in or make an appointment and boom many well paid attentive workers spring into service. The thing is, I'm in perfect health. I happen to be in the type of plan where the actual dollars my healthplan collects are known and paid by the hour from my employer to the healthplan. It's over $14K per year. It doesn't show up on my pay stub though, it's money directly from my company to the insurance company. Conservatively, my wife and my employers have probably paid 15 or 20 times the amount of the claims my family has made over our working lives. A fortune is being made on people like me. The wealthiest individuals spend no more, and actually spend less when adjusted for after tax dollars spent. So even if they do carry comprehensive insurance, families making $3 to $6 hundred thousand get the same nearly unlimited benefits as me for seroius costly illness/injury coverage, pay not a penny more into the system (less considering many choose to self insure small expenses) but cost the same.

All the progressiveness is basically from $0 family income to about $100K income. New proposals that I've studied won't make it progressive for higher household incomes, in fact people of higher unearned incomes or with substantial wealth accumulated and low incomes will probably benefit.

It is people like us (and most of them have very little knowledge of the actual money that changes hands) that are the insurance companies secret weapon. We love our healthcare, we don't really feel the impact of the cost, we think the others (the poor, uninsured and chronicly ill) are regretable but we are having a tough go of it too and the government shouldn't be borrowing against my future tax payments unless they at least let me keep what I've got, right?

It's a simple case of pitting the upper middleclass against the poor and lower middle class, with the wealthy having no dog in the hunt. The rich may even benefit from the plans now on the table- their catostrophic coverage policies will likely drop in price when more healthy people enroll in insurance plans.

It's amazing to see how the mainstream of the Republican party runs from empiricism. On evolution, on global warming, and now on health care, hold up a scientifically supported fact and it's like garlic to a vampire.

I'm not sure this man has any braincells. Can anyone confirm/deny?

Here is some more of his looking with one eye of convenience only:

“We lose our position as the world leader if the dollar is no longer the currency of favor,” said Senator Jon Kyl of Arizona, the No. 2 Republican in the Senate. He pointed out that he was critical of George W. Bush for letting the dollar fall, too, “but this administration is making things worse by its spending and deficit policies.” (As if W never spent or borrowed).

"Sen. Jon Kyl (R-AZ) took issue with the contention -- which is strongly supported by scientific research -- that lack of health insurance is linked to higher risk of death."

Republicans don't believe in science, so it's all good.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't senators and congressmen get insurance from the fed. govt. forever, even if they only serve one term?

I have no problem with their getting insurance while they're serving, plus retirement care IF they serve for a long time.

But what kind of job in the private sector would give you health insurance ad infinitum if you worked for the company for just two years?

Again, I may be wrong about this (hope so!)--but if I'm right, this should go by the board.

If our congresscritters had to worry about losing their insurance as well as their salary if they're voted out of office, they might rustle up a little EMPATHY for the rest of us.

Of course, John Kyl is also one of the 30 Republican senators who think it is wrong to hold a company responsible when its employees gang-rape another employee on company time.

I just discovered this wonderful site & look forward to dialoguing
with true adults. I hope your troll problems are limited? I also go on Huff Po daily......

What is he sure of? Does anyone know. Has he ever made a public statement of his certainty on any topic. I suspect his uncertainty varies not based upon evidence but upon what he wants to be true. A true moron. err, that's Senator Moron.

Why does Dodd(crook)and Gregory (Jackass) just let this man lie away like that and not slap him up side the head with the facts so everyone watching can know them too...it's a sad thing!