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Report: Unprecedented Number Of Death Threats Against Obama -- And Secret Service Overwhelmed
Jillian Rayfield | October 19, 2009, 6:00PM
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The Boston Globe reports that a new internal Congressional Research Service report and government sources say there are an unprecedented number of death threats against President Obama -- and that the Secret Service is insufficiently funded and staffed to deal with them.
According to The Globe, a report issued by the Congressional Research Service shows that the Secret Service is investigating more threats against government officials than ever before, and questions whether the 144-year old agency should continue probing financial crimes, as was its original mandate.
In total, the Secret Service regularly protects 32 people and arranges security for high-profile events. But the election of Barack Obama has increased threats against the president's life by 400 percent from his predecessor, according to "In the President's Secret Service," Ronald Kessler's account of presidential security. The Secret Service has looked into a number of race-based threats since Obama took office, and a Facebook poll that asked "Should Obama be killed?" President Obama also had a Secret Service detail 18 months before the election, the earliest of any Presidential candidate.
As Bryan Bender at The Boston Globe reports, some government officials are calling for a review of the way the agency is run, and suggesting that some of its financial investigations be transferred to the Treasury Department so the Secret Service can focus on terrorist and assassination threats.
The Southern Poverty Law Center issued a report back in August that found that the number of white supremacist militia groups has spiked by 35% since 2000. The Secret Service has, in turn, increased its employees from 6,700 two years ago to a projected 7,055 in the coming fiscal year, almost entirely devoted to protecting national leaders. But that's a staff increase of just 5.3 percent -- nowhere near the 400 percent increase in threats to the president's life.
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traitorjoe
October 19, 2009 7:29 PM
And 97% of those who made credible death threats listen to Rush Limbaugh and think "Barack the Magic Negro" is funny.
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Kate in SW Fla
October 19, 2009 7:44 PM in reply to traitorjoe
They listen to FOX News and live in the so-called Bible Belt. What Bible that is, I can't imagine.
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JeffB
October 24, 2009 6:46 PM in reply to Kate in SW Fla
Is President Obama safe and secure?
http://www.youpolls.com/details.asp?pid=6357
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unknowncitizen
October 19, 2009 8:06 PM in reply to traitorjoe
"And 97% of those who made credible death threats listen to Rush Limbaugh and think "Barack the Magic Negro" is funny."
That's an exaggeration (at least 4% of would be Obama threat issuers don't ever listen to the radio) And Rush didn't put Barack the Magic Negro to music to entertain and amuse those who like using a race label that members of that race find offensive, he was simply doing his civic duty and further distributing the newsworthy title of a hard hitting LA Times piece, you know. He has many black friends, errr... I mean at least he might if most black people didn't completely disagree with him on everything! Lots of Rush's listeners openly claim that Obama was born in Kenya and is a secret Muslim. It's also undeniable fact that officials of the state of Hawaii have stated that they have seen Obama's official birth records, and that Obama has attended Christian religious services for decades. How many white guys with this record would be accused of being an alien muslim?
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Renee
October 19, 2009 7:34 PM
I thought this was a "christian nation"? (or is Christendom the better word for it, not to be confused with true Chrsitianity)
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MonicaDickey
October 19, 2009 9:34 PM in reply to Renee
exactly! a Christian nation where people often twist religion and their followers to fit whatever agenda will benefit them. While people freak out about Muslim fundamentalists overseas no one says anything about fundamentalist Christians who are card carrying militia men.
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badgerellen
October 20, 2009 9:30 AM in reply to MonicaDickey
The vast majority of Christians would never threaten President Obama or any other government leader. These threats come from a lunatic fringe. While I join you in finding the threats to be unacceptable, they are not the product of rational Christian theology.
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_jonny_5_
October 20, 2009 10:44 AM in reply to badgerellen
I'm sorry did you say Rational Christian Theology?
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Eric
October 20, 2009 11:42 AM in reply to _jonny_5_
That you are unaware of such rational Christian theology not only does not mean it doesn't exist, but it puts you in the ranks of the uniformed fundamentalist christians who can only accept their own point of view, and have to demonize those who don't agree with you.
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_jonny_5_
October 20, 2009 12:09 PM in reply to Eric
I'm sorry by all means... Cite some of the so called rational Christian theology. And spare me the morality BS, christianity hold no monopoly on morality... and it can be argued it barely has a claim to morality.
Religion is, and has alway been a way to attempt to control the masses by controling the gates to the afterlife. I guess greed and hunger for power is rational. But that would make Sarah Palin rational and Dick Cheney Jesus himself.
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_jonny_5_
October 20, 2009 12:54 PM in reply to _jonny_5_
Still Waiting....
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_jonny_5_
October 20, 2009 2:19 PM in reply to _jonny_5_
Still waiting...
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lastsaneman
October 29, 2009 9:26 PM in reply to _jonny_5_
Make just one leaf,create just one human hair,your ignorance is not obvious to you,for those that are ignorant can not see.
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Hodgepodge
October 21, 2009 5:41 AM in reply to _jonny_5_
Sure. You'll want to begin with Boethius, Roger Bacon, and Thomas Acquinas.
Except you weren't serious, because he was entirely correct: you are a bigot, no better than the people you despose. And I say that as an atheist. There is nothing rational about your position, it is based entirely on the desire to believe that you are correct and that this makes you better than someone else.
You're also astoundingly ignorant. I suppose that the fact that you believe that for most of Western history, philosophers have been incapable of rational thought means that this goes without saying. But more specifically, your use of the term "rational" suggests that you believe the term to be synonomous with "positivist."
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_jonny_5_
October 21, 2009 12:09 PM in reply to Hodgepodge
Bigot... really?
Would you call a southern black man who lived through the civil rights era , who has a firm mistrust of white people based on his experiance and the treatment he's recieved over a lifetime a bigot? or maybe a bit jaded...
The religious are happy to ridicule the beliefs of Athiests(Of which you supposedly include yourself). They are careful in some/many cases to not speak ill of other faiths(at least in mixed company) but feel no need to hold back their ridicule of someone who can view the whole issue of faith without having been indoctrinated by the faith handed down to them from their family and may want to(or not) have a simple discussion of these issues. They do not see this as a legitamate POV. Often it is taken as a personal insult, as if they were held in contempt by the individual of this different belief. In fact they don't view as a belief at all, as if one is infringing on their freedom of religion. When in fact Atheism is the last "religion"(read:belief system) that is OK to openly ridicule.
I veiw it as bigoted that in the 50's "under god" was added to the Pledge of allegiance as well as the introduction of "In god we trust" to our currency Post civil war through the adoption of the phrase on the Nickel in the early 30's
So pardon me for being jaded, Pardon me for adding some snark on an otherwise sore subject. I think the Christian influence in the law that is supposed represent us all despite the explicit fact that it is forbidden by our by our constitution could use a little prodding and reflection from time to time.
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Hodgepodge
October 21, 2009 2:35 PM in reply to _jonny_5_
The fact that you see fit to lump millions of people together as "the religious" speaks for itself. Should I include in that phrase my mother's side of my family, who are Quakers (excepting those like my mother who have drifted away) and are generally quite capable of having nuanced discussions on such topics?
And yes, there are plenty of people who react in a stupid and even outright bigoted way themselves to atheists. But comparing yourself black man in the rural South in the Civil Rights era? Did I miss the seperate drinking fountains for atheists? Is there a large "atheist" stamped on your forehead which will get you killed if you go into the wrong part of town at night? Seriously?
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bluemolenj
October 20, 2009 10:58 AM in reply to badgerellen
"Rational" Christian Theology? Like a "good" Disco Band - there is no such thing.
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_jonny_5_
October 20, 2009 11:00 AM in reply to bluemolenj
Or an Honest Republican...
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lastsaneman
October 29, 2009 9:32 PM in reply to bluemolenj
To believe in nothing,is blind, for the world is something and people are something,and athiest believe in nothing. If you worship things or other people you are not an athiest,you are agnostic and if you are wrong, you loose,if I am wrong I still win, for I have lived with something to look forward to,your pain will only leave on your last breath. Good luck
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JEP07
October 19, 2009 10:05 PM in reply to Renee
That may be changing. Looks as if some of the many sensible Christians have decided there's some not-so-christian members in their midst who are nothing more than planted provocateurs, who prey on the impressionable flock with internet mischief in the form of rumors and lies.
David Kurtz recently posted this piece, http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/2009/10/the_truth_shall_set_you_free.php?ref=fpblg
He encouraged us all to take the time to read it's referenced source. I did, and I am glad to see there is some spiritual sanity climbing out of the wingnut hypocrisy that has become the defacto public voice of conservatives who call themselves Christians.
It is definitely worth reading, and gaining hope from. Maybe there really is a great light at the end of that long tunnel.
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datora
October 20, 2009 4:28 AM in reply to JEP07
@JEP07 --
Thanks for the pointer. Just read the full article on your recommendation, and suggest anyone else reading this should, also:
http://www.abpnews.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=4496&Itemid=53
However, I get a lot more hand-wringing out of it than hope. Almost every point where they could have hit hard and really taken a stand, they pulled the punch or whiffed it at a side-issue/ straw man.
Sign of possible hope? Yes (and, by no means alone in the wilderness, as far as they took it). But, really somewhat shallow for the depth of the issue. I'd give 'em a B- for effort and a solid C on the content, a largely lukewarm and half-hearted essay.
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JEP07
October 20, 2009 9:36 AM in reply to datora
I would guess this piece was softened up a bit by either an editor or an associate, I got the same feeling, that it could have gone deeper. But considering the people who regularly read this Baptist blog, it is no surprise the message was subdued, sometimes it is easier for brainwashed people to get incremental truth, the whole truth is just too much to bear.
And I do not mean that snarkly, pulling some of these fundamentalists out of their political stupor will be a very delicate operation. It does encourage me that the Christian community has leaders and writers who feel they can now express their concerns, without getting flamed or fired.
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3star2nr
October 19, 2009 10:18 PM in reply to Renee
ever heard of the crusades?
Who u think started that the muslims or christians
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truthspeaker
October 20, 2009 2:12 AM in reply to 3star2nr
I never knew anything of Rush Limbaugh until last year, and so I found a station in Buffalo (930 am), which broadcast this guy' diatribe along with their own. As a Canadian, I was shocked to hear the things this guy was, and is still saying. I was convinced that his words would be considered treasonous in any other country but America. I also wondered how anyone could harbour so much hate on a daily basis without going ill. Wow!. And then Carville doubted that race was a significant part of their rant. I am sure that there'd be a civil war in America if PO were murdered. Sad, very sad.
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datora
October 20, 2009 4:38 AM in reply to truthspeaker
@truthspeaker:
I also wondered how anyone could harbour so much hate on a daily basis without going ill.
Oxycontin: novacaine for rotted-out souls.
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truthspeaker
October 20, 2009 2:13 AM in reply to 3star2nr
Every heard of slavery?
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TheRealFish
October 20, 2009 2:14 AM in reply to 3star2nr
At least with the Crusades the sides were clearly drawn. I tend to favor comparison to the more insidious, brutal Christian legacy: The Inquisition.
I read rangey estimates (because it's a little hard to pin down stats for something that stretched across nearly 400 years), but I believe historians tend to agree that this wonderful period of torture and hideous forms of execution was responsible for maybe 17 million deaths across that 400 years.
Anyway, I still have a hard time figuring where "turn the other cheek" fits into most any of the aggressive history of this particular religion.
But, hey! I ain't pickin sides. Religion as a practice is responsible for more death and destruction than almost any other activity in human history. Any time somebody says "I have all the answers and if you don't share them you are spawn from hell" they set the table for gang warfare on steroids.
Thus it was, thus it is, and thus it shall be written. Right?
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Docb
October 20, 2009 3:10 PM in reply to 3star2nr
There is radical fringe in any organization--many lives have been lost in the name _____, fill in the blank! To assume that limpbow or beck, hanratty, the tea-baggers, or any of the others are anything but loosely affiliated with spirituality is a stretch---organized religion maybe but not the former...
As to what is reported from a non- news source...the old saw is: Consider the source!
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DownriverDem
October 20, 2009 9:52 AM in reply to Renee
The south has its own brand of Christianity. It is called Republican Christians. They do not follow the Prince of Peace. They are region impaired and clueless.
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traitorjoe
October 19, 2009 7:36 PM
Renee, it's a Christian Nation determined to bring back the Spanish Inquisition, lynchings, cross burnings and other highlights.
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docrocktex
October 19, 2009 7:37 PM
And people have the audacity to say this has absolutely nothing to do with him being Black. Ok.
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bill57
October 19, 2009 7:41 PM
"But the election of Barack Obama has increased threats against the president's life by 400 percent from his predecessor,"
This tells you all you need to know about conservative morals and values. Why is it that whenever a great person is assassinated, it almost always is by a conservative. Ever see liberals murdering leaders they disagree with? Extremely rare.
Too many conservatives think going to church is what makes them a good Christian. Forgetting or ignoring the teachings of Christ because they’re just too inconvenient. I mean why follow something you really don’t believe in? They just keep fooling themselves…how sad.
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Scott in PacNW
October 19, 2009 8:57 PM in reply to bill57
Except that these people are not 'conservative' no matter what they call themselves. Violence tends to express extremism.
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DownriverDem
October 20, 2009 9:55 AM in reply to Scott in PacNW
It doesn't matter if they are conservative or not. They have taken over the Repub Party. The Repub Party sold its soul for votes and now they are reaping what they have sown.
That is why I don't understand how 2010 could be a Repub year.
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_jonny_5_
October 20, 2009 11:11 AM in reply to DownriverDem
"That is why I don't understand how 2010 could be a Repub year."
This is just a narrative by the media. They are looking to repeat the sensationalism(read:ratings) associated with a major reshuffle of the balance of power.
The narrative "Republicans have their Ass handed to them" has been used the last two election cycles, they are looking to spice things up. It's like when a host of a "Reality" show purposefully asks leading questions to stir up emotions, its an attempt at a ratings grab.
Did any one else see this??
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33391960/ns/politics-more_politics/
This AP article tells us how "Virginia's Gov. Race is a Snapshot of US attitudes" and basically says Corzine is only ahead because NJ leans Dem and theree is a 3rd prty candidate. Theere is no mention of that being a "snapshot" or even a viable argument against there point.
Damn Liberal Media...
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kaylaspop
October 20, 2009 12:05 AM in reply to bill57
Watch out or you'll be accused of playing "the race card" again.
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jjdjjd
October 20, 2009 3:57 AM in reply to bill57
just so all you loons know; lee harvey oswald was a leftist and he shot kennedy. sirhan sirhan shot bobby kennedy, he was from the mid-east. blacks shot malcolm x shabazz. it was a lefty who shot george wallace. a mental patient shot reagan. harry truman was almost killed by puerto rican nationalists. FDR was almost killed by lefties, who did kill the mayor of chicago.the only leader i can think of that was killed by a righty was MLK. you saying otherwise doesn't make it true. get your facts correct.
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Larry Geater
October 20, 2009 9:14 AM in reply to jjdjjd
The left went off the violent deep end durring the opposition to VietNam. Now it is the rights turn. They started with OK City.
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_jonny_5_
October 20, 2009 12:37 PM in reply to Larry Geater
Im sorry but the bombers of the 60's targeted supposedly empty buildings at night not buildings w/ occupied on-premesis day-care.
Your comparision is a bit of a stretch.
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Larry Geater
October 20, 2009 4:45 PM in reply to _jonny_5_
Their explosions were also quite a bit smaller.
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Larry Geater
October 20, 2009 4:47 PM in reply to _jonny_5_
but they will have the same effect of driving the culture in the opposite of the desired direction. Political violence is counter productive here and now.
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_jonny_5_
October 20, 2009 5:36 PM in reply to Larry Geater
Agreed...
The intention were quite different as well. In the 60's they were looking for attention to their cause (Yes, still counter productive and misguided)
On the other side we have people with the intention of harm to others. Which while also counter productive, is a whole differnt animal.
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shanefish
October 20, 2009 10:20 AM in reply to jjdjjd
Wait a minute there genius. Wallace's shooter should have been a "mental patient" as well, and I'd like to point out that Wallace was a democrat, as was both Kennedys. Does anyone really still think Oswald (former Marine) acted alone? FDR's assination attempter had no known political reasons, and is believed to be more of a Chicago-style gangsta hit. Truman's assination attempt by the Puerto Rican Nationalists were just that, Nationalists who wanted to be an independent nation, which could be construed as left or right. Lastly, your comment that Malcom X was shot by blacks (insinuating that all blacks are left) is absurd since he was killed by Religious Fundamentalists, which resemble the right more than the left. Nice try though buddy!
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Kyle H
October 20, 2009 10:50 AM in reply to shanefish
Are you actually trying to claim George Wallace as a "liberal"?
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shanefish
October 20, 2009 11:09 AM in reply to Kyle H
I am not arguing Wallace's politics, only pointing out that he was a democrat. Bremer's attempt had nothing to do with politics and EVERYTHING to do with being famous...and also inspired Hinkley's attempt. I was merely poking holes in this guy's argument that these guys were all "lefties".
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jjdjjd
October 20, 2009 12:03 PM in reply to shanefish
boy oh boy, the history is being revised by you ahanefish. my whole point was that anyone can be killed by anyone, regardless of politics. oswald was a leftist even though he was a former marine. you saying he was a former marine implys that all marines are right-wingers. blacks did kill X, i do not know their politics, but doubt they were supporters of barry goldwater. as for bremer he was a democrat and indeed was crazy. [not all dems are]. as for oswalds co-workers, well we will never know, will we? FDR, a gangsta hit? in 1932? believe me if the mob wanted FDR dead, he would have been dead. don't try to read between the lines, read whats there, anyone can kill anyone else, regardless of politics.
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shanefish
October 20, 2009 12:05 PM in reply to jjdjjd
Um, yeah, that was MY POINT Socrates! Thanks for reiterating it for me so poetically.
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jjdjjd
October 20, 2009 2:03 PM in reply to shanefish
and it was my point too aristotle, my 1st response was directed to someone who said it was conservatives who did all the 'big' killings. my point is that it is the 'loons' who do it.
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shanefish
October 20, 2009 3:11 PM in reply to jjdjjd
Yes, then you went ahead and called us "loons" only backing our suspicion that you believe it is the "lefties" who mostly committ assination, when in reality we all know that kind of hatred and disloyalty to America falls in the right's lap. Again, nice try...move along before your head explodes.
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jjdjjd
October 20, 2009 3:24 PM in reply to shanefish
anyone who makes posts that only conservatives kill is , indeed, a loon. if you subscribe to that point of view, you are a loon. like most people, i'm liberal on some things, conservative on others. to the 'far left' and the 'far right' their view is that if i don't agree with them on EVERYTHING then i'm wrong. i agree with obama on most things, but not everything. to him, i'm an enemy. who knows, i may also have been on nixon's list. now, try [i know this is hard for someone like you] to stop twisting my words.
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shanefish
October 20, 2009 3:30 PM in reply to jjdjjd
Your words speak for themselves. How do you believe you're an enemy of Obama? To me, it seems as though he's gone out of his way (too far out of his way) to appease the idiots on the right. If you're truely a centrist, then you're in the middle with me and we really should be banding together. You see, there's 30% on the left, 30% on the right, but 40% of us in the middle. It is past time for us to take control. 3rd party in 2012? Anyone with me?
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jjdjjd
October 20, 2009 4:29 PM in reply to shanefish
i'm all for a strong 3rd party, but not if someone like you who twists and distorts other people's words to try and make them look foolish are in it.
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shanefish
October 21, 2009 11:59 AM in reply to jjdjjd
Well, nanny-nanny-boo-boo.
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Kyle H
October 20, 2009 10:48 AM in reply to jjdjjd
Some guy named Lincoln ...?
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criminey
October 20, 2009 6:18 PM in reply to jjdjjd
and a bunch of lefties carried out the revolutionary war.
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rbeats
October 19, 2009 7:45 PM
How can the right wingers say it's the left that's angry?
This is case in point that the right wing is actually angry to the point of violence.
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_jonny_5_
October 20, 2009 12:10 PM in reply to rbeats
It's called projection...
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tamiasmin
October 19, 2009 8:32 PM
I wonder if any of these threats are considered serious enough to result in criminal charges and a trial. I suspect that the 400% increase in threats would drop off significantly if the people making them came to understand that they may face hard consequences.
Still, it's not the posturing blowhards that worry me. It's the guy who hangs with them saying nothing.
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JEP07
October 19, 2009 11:07 PM in reply to tamiasmin
Under the Bush junta, I don't think we EVER saw the words "assassinate" and "President" in the same publication, let alone on the same page, or in the same post.
The Secret Service needs to follow up on all of these threats, no matter how veiled, at least to serve notice that it will not be tolerated.
And everyone who gets one of those "visits" should have their names published for their neighbors and co-workers and employers to read, because if these nuts are that loose with their politics, what's to say they won't walk into the workplace and go postal on a surrogate victim.
Seriously, anyone who would threaten our President, even in a stupid drunken fit, might very well be considered capable of pulling a Columbine or a VIrginia Tech.
And each and everyone of these miscreants should be polled to see who they listen to on the radio. Hannity's already inspired at least one violent act, Malkin is desperately trying to outdo him, so if there is a common thread that ties all these crazies to a few provocateurs, then those loudmouth blowhards might very well be cited for inciting violence toweads our elected officials.
Seriously, is there any doubt that, just like the gun toting teabaggers, that anyone who might be so incensed as to threaten the President is probably listening to The Lump, Fox News and Glenn "the armchair traitor" Beck.
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Johnny
October 19, 2009 8:33 PM
Good point, RBeats. This should kill two talking points with one stone:
1. "Conservative wing-nuts are no crazier than liberal wing-nuts". If that was true, death threats against the president would have remained steady.
2. "Conservatives are patriots who respect the office of the president". Apparently, right-wingers respect the office of the President so much they'll threaten to kill the chief executive for disagreeing with them.
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_jonny_5_
October 20, 2009 11:19 AM in reply to Johnny
Point 1 Is spot on... Bravo.
Point 2 could be worded better I'll give it a shot...
2. "Conservatives are patriots who respect the office of the president". Apparently, right-wingers respect the office of the President so much they'll threaten to kill any unqualified(read:black) person who was duelly elected by the people.
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wial
October 19, 2009 9:11 PM
Beck, Rush, Bill et al should resign now so we will have less of a reason to draw and quarter them should anyone touch a hair of Obama's head.
Because if anything happens to Obama, the whole world will go crazy with rage and grief, and I sure would not want to be in the extended family of any of those monster-charlatans then.
Or on their staffs. Or working for any company that advertises on their shows.
Think it through people. Anyone touches Obama and you are toast. Got that? Now resign, save yourselves, and some shred of the dignity of your absurd, bloody-minded political positions. Good night, and good luck.
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_jonny_5_
October 20, 2009 11:25 AM in reply to wial
Are you kidding???
That scenario is the one they secretly have their fingers crossed will happen.
That is a ratings bonanza as far as they are concerned...
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Legion303
October 20, 2009 11:10 PM in reply to _jonny_5_
The difference is, those radio hosts who encourage this sort of thing don't actually have Secret Service protection.
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pirogue
October 19, 2009 10:15 PM
Lord knows the left didn't do anything CRAZY or HATEFUL like making a movie about the assassination of George W. Bush.
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JEP07
October 19, 2009 11:28 PM in reply to pirogue
Pirogue, that was Hollywood, not the public, and certainly not "the left" in the same way this is certifiably "the right."
We (anyone left of The Lump) were accused of trashing W (all us sick puppies), when our criticism was, contrary to Krauthammer's obfuscatory "Bush derangement" meme, almost always relative to a ridiculous Bush policy, not just Bush per se. And we didn't use Rove generated cliche's to make our profound points. When Bush lied about WMD, and we called him on it, then we learned we were right, the right called it "trashing the President."
Since when has the truth been trash?
Again, and as usual, the anti-American hypocrisy of the average wingnut's apples-to-cranberries comparisons makes me want to heave.
HYPOCRITES!
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gharlane
October 19, 2009 11:43 PM in reply to pirogue
Nice try, asswipe.
What part of "death threats UP 400%" from the Obama's predecessor and "Secret Service overwhelmed" did you not understand?
False equivalency much?
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_jonny_5_
October 20, 2009 10:59 AM in reply to gharlane
Dont engage the trolls.. it only encourages their delusions
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JEP07
October 19, 2009 11:36 PM
Personally, I wouldn't mind a bit if the President went virtual, and stayed out of the public eye but remained available, online and on screen, interacting from a place of safety..
No doubt the same wingnuts who are fomenting this incendiary, treasonous hatred towards him would call him cowardly, but I think it would just be smart to use the technology we have right here at our fingertips to protect him from public exposure.
These scumbag blowhard talk-show anti-patriots should be very careful they don't inspire their knuckledragging audience violence towards this President.
I would bet there's more than one angry, honest patriot who would hunt down some of these wingnut traitors with their own form of retribution, if anything ever happens to Obama.
And that would be an easy list to make.
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Kyle H
October 20, 2009 10:52 AM in reply to JEP07
C'mon, do you even realize how 1984 that sounds?
Jeez, you people, sometimes.
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shanefish
October 20, 2009 12:06 PM in reply to Kyle H
Yeah? Maybe you ought to have a look at this:
http://carnival-of-anarchy.blogspot.com/2008/01/smedley-butler-and-business-plot.html
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sherifffruitfly
October 20, 2009 12:41 AM
It's extra funny when the racism-deniers chime in, saying it's the same as it was with Clinton.
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haterhater
October 20, 2009 4:48 AM
Please sign and share this petition to protect the President's life by demanding an increase in the Secret Service's budget.
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/ssbudget
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stavrogin2
October 20, 2009 5:34 AM
If they started imposing hefty fines on these morons making death threats I think the number would decline quickly.
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jjdjjd
October 20, 2009 5:38 AM
how come you loons are only 'patriotic' when a lefty is president? look at the 'hate speech' you have posted on this thread. just look at the lies told about limbaugh last week on his bid to own the NFL rams. CNN was forced to withdraw them and apologize. how about 'AIR AMERICA' when bush was president. was that hatred? no, sorry, loons on both ends are the dangers, they always have been.
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Minne sconsin
October 20, 2009 8:32 AM in reply to jjdjjd
Again, we need a better class of trolls. If this is all the better redstate & freepers can do it's no wonder the GOP is getting smoked. This is the harvest they reap for being anti-education.
Shorter idjit - "You liberals don't like Rush, so it's OK for us to threaten to assassinate the president".
And as for Air America - Senator Al Franken. Suck on it, troll.
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JEP07
October 20, 2009 9:46 AM in reply to Minne sconsin
Like I have said, at least when we criticized Bush, there were thousands of dead bodies all around the world, directly resulting from his devious policies, to prove our criticism was justified.
Obama hasn't had time to earn the ire that the wingnuts so relentlessly toss at him. Bush earned his detractors in bloody fashion.
And please, don't throw the fact that there have been victims in Afghanistan and Iraq since Obama was elected, I for one still know these are Bush Wars, not Obama wars, no matter how hard the MSM is tryng to make that illogical leap.
When Obama starts a new war, then I'll join the chorus ofd detractors, but until then, he's just doing clean-up duty after Bush's bloody mess.
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_jonny_5_
October 20, 2009 12:28 PM in reply to JEP07
Minne...Jep
Please don't engage the trolls It really only encourages them.
It's like trying to make a rational point as a guest on Fox "News" you will just get shouted down.
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Dorn76
October 20, 2009 12:57 PM in reply to _jonny_5_
or having a conversation with your dining room table. Just not worth it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYlZiWK2Iy8
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avenueb
October 20, 2009 6:59 AM
to paraphrase FOX news spin "What threats?" - "Sources close to the Secret Service told FOX News there was a spike in threats against Obama immediately following the election, but said those numbers are now within the range of threats leveled at former presidents, like George W. Bush and Bill Clinton." http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/10/18/secret-service-refutes-report-claiming-agency-stretched/
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Schmed- ley
October 20, 2009 10:00 AM in reply to avenueb
Those "sources" are the guys who clean the public johns in the DOJ building. They have a similar contract with FuxNews and have daily water cooler sessions with the Fux "journalists".
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Steve Gilpatrick
October 20, 2009 7:58 AM
Are peope actually surprized by the level of violence Obama's election has unleashed in this country? What do you think was going to happen when a
black with a muslim heritage comes center stage.
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shanefish
October 20, 2009 10:32 AM in reply to Steve Gilpatrick
We are maybe not as much surprised as we are DISGUSTED to call these people out fellow countrymen. They are EXACTLY what is wrong with America and will be our downfall if we don't act on these revelations. Has anyone else noticed how "tough" these nerds with AR-15's strapped to their backs really looked? They carry a gun because they're too afraid to fight their battles like real men!
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_jonny_5_
October 20, 2009 12:57 PM in reply to shanefish
"They carry a gun because they're too afraid to fight their battles like real men!"
WRONG, it's called a tiny Penis...
The 2nd amendment shoud read "The right to keep and bear arms to compensate for tiny Genitals shall not bi infringed"
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shanefish
October 20, 2009 1:03 PM in reply to _jonny_5_
Hahaha! I just find it amazing how tough these guys act, but they're really just trying to cover up for their lack of "true toughness" like being compassionate and reasonable. Pathetic.
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_jonny_5_
October 20, 2009 1:16 PM in reply to shanefish
Compassionate?? Reasonable??
You muss be one of them there big city librul Homosexshells...
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shanefish
October 20, 2009 3:33 PM in reply to _jonny_5_
Actually, I live in West Virginia! Hahaha!
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AJM
October 20, 2009 10:57 AM in reply to Steve Gilpatrick
That Americans behave like Americans and respect the President that they and their fellow Americans elected after a fair campaign.
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Angellight
October 20, 2009 7:58 AM
There will be many threats against Pres. Obama from many places as he is an agent of Change and many do not want to change or give up their power so that all will benefit just not the powerful! It can be said too that there are many prayers of protections daily going out for Pres. Obama and that too the Angels of Protection are clearly watching over him. They too have a stake in this fight!
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ivy22
October 20, 2009 9:14 AM
Do what it takes to keep our President safe.
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shanefish
October 20, 2009 9:37 AM
They do realize that if they take him out, that means Joe Biden is in, don't they? If they take em both out...Pelosi, then Byrd, then Clinton.
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Schmed- ley
October 20, 2009 10:02 AM in reply to shanefish
All they care about is that the next guy in would be white.
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shanefish
October 20, 2009 10:34 AM in reply to Schmed- ley
Pathetic and embarrassing.
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old timer
October 20, 2009 10:59 AM
Let's face it we have an American Taliban and it's based mainly below the Mason Dixon Line.
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Dave24
October 20, 2009 1:14 PM in reply to old timer
I would like to point out that I live below the Mason Dixon Line and I would go to war for the man I elected, Barrack Obama. The sheer stereotyping in this thread is unimaginable, that you all would make such assumptions makes one wonder how you people function at all. The rationalizations are astoundingly inaccurate and as offensive as Anything Rush has ever said. Let me make myself clear, I absolutely hate Rush and Everything he stands for, I have more than 50 words in my southern vocabulary, and most of us southerners do care about things outside of our states. Stop making assumptions that we would rejoice at the death of not only our President, but of a man at all. You people sicken me.
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jenesq
October 20, 2009 1:55 PM in reply to Dave24
Statistically speaking, however, the fact is that the South is the epicenter of wingnuttery. Fewer than half of Southerners believe that Barack Obama was born in the United States--about a third think he was born abroad, and another third "don't know." Southern states like Arkansas bucked the national trend by voting more heavily Republican in 2008 than in 2004. This is the so-called "Bible Belt"--the seat of the American Taliban.
I'm not some damyankee saying this, either--I grew up in the South.
So I'm sorry, but although I have no doubt that you (and others like you) are progressive, pro-Obama Southerners, the fact remains that Southerners in general are FAR more likely to be teabagging wingnuts than the average American. The contrast is as stark as it is shameful. Instead of defending your region, you should be battling the attitudes at home.
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Dave24
October 20, 2009 2:01 PM in reply to jenesq
That is precisely why I bothered to post at all. The statistics are disturbing, but instead of classifying us all as uneducated nuts, having solid arguments with factual evidence to back up such remarks is the answer. Don't strive to be right, strive to educate and expand.
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shanefish
October 20, 2009 3:39 PM in reply to Dave24
Very eloquent Dave. We've got to stop bickering amongst ourselves. Has no one noticed that we have a real chance to get adequate health care for all, improve the way we are viewed in the world, make it possible for a person to support their family by taking on the special intrests in politics and the corporate monopolies; however, nothing is moving forward because we're arguing about how's the better liberal? We have work to do, and we're going to need each other.
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Dave24
October 20, 2009 5:19 PM in reply to shanefish
Agreed and seconded. We have an amazing opportunity for some real progress in the world. I would always regret it if we, as a people, as a nation, squandered it.
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billp
October 20, 2009 12:25 PM
My only question is if the GOP and Southerners will be openly celebrating in the streets if someone gets to the President.
I do give them credit for their discipline in executing the GOP Playbook so far:
1. Use apocalyptic rhetoric that exacerbates fear, bigotry and extremism among the uneducated and intolerant.
2. Counter any liberal criticism of your inflammatory calls for action by saying they can't take a joke.
3. Keep turning up the heat and act surprised when somebody finally heeds your calls for extreme action.
4. Be sure to maintain you were only speaking figuratively and you are being unfairly blamed when violence occurs.
5. Keep your celebrations behind closed doors.
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billp
October 20, 2009 12:27 PM
Next step: the Republicans in Congress push for cutting Secret Service funding.
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Casey Brown-Myers
October 20, 2009 1:37 PM
This is old news that is being used to scare citizens and to demonize Tea Party protesters. Here is an updated response from the Secret Service which shows that threat levels are the same of any sitting president.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/10/18/secret-service-refutes-report-claiming-agency-stretched/
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jenesq
October 20, 2009 1:58 PM in reply to Casey Brown-Myers
Oh, well, if FOX reported it, it must be true. God knows they have no stake in defending the tea parties that they staged.
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Casey Brown-Myers
October 20, 2009 11:09 PM in reply to jenesq
You obliviously didn't read the story. You would rather attack Fox News for reporting relevant news that the state-controlled media refuses to report. Pretty standard.
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foolish moon
October 20, 2009 2:27 PM
Just to clear something up (I hope.) The film about the assassination of George Bush was from a British production company I think, so not really a "Hollywood" or "left-wing" movie. That is all.
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keenanjay
October 20, 2009 3:35 PM
Dave24, I feel your pain. I'm a Californian stuck in the Bible belt/Wingbat Central of Northwest Florida. It's our cross to bear that when the rhetoric gets incendiary, our liberal bretheren lose balance and condemn us as an undifferentiated group with our less evolved neighbors.
I'm with you, as are all the cool liberals I met during the last election. Keep your sense of humor for those who don't understand that it's a lot harder to be liberal here than in California or Washington.
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Dave24
October 20, 2009 5:21 PM in reply to keenanjay
Thank you, it's nice to know that the struggle to overcome what's seen as a cultural weakness is alive everywhere. As it is, I have a few friends of like mind and we debate quite frequently about the nation and where we hope we'll be in 5 to 10 years. Change, even slow change, is better than becoming a stagnant nation with no goals.
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Clavis
October 20, 2009 4:11 PM
The biggest difference between the liberal protestors of Bush and the right-wing protestors of Obama is that the liberal protestors were protesting things Bush actually said and did and admitted he'd done, whereas Obama protestors are attacking him for thing he hasn't said or done. They are attacking him for secret motivations that they could only know about with psychic powers and plans that they think he "intends to carry out" ANY DAY NOW.
It's self-serving. It's truthiness. There is nothing about lying to yourself that deserves respect or consideration.
Republicans are assholes who lie to themselves and to us. They deserve only scorn and marginalization.
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_jonny_5_
October 20, 2009 5:43 PM in reply to Clavis
Actually it is not just a Republican phenomenon to prefer delusion to reality. In fact it's been proven to affect most partisans.
That said, I think Dems are more likely to at least distinguish between the two...
and Not all repubs deserve only scorn and marginalization. Although most have earned it.
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Fuzzy Drum Dude
October 20, 2009 6:05 PM
The number of slippery slope arguments must also be at an all time high. The next thing you know Obama: -will turn us into a socialist/communist nation. -will evoke Nazi euthanasia laws.(Kill Grandma) -will lock up conservatives in concentration camps. -will turn us all Muslim. -will be coming to take all your guns.
An elder family member recently showed us his assault weapons. He collects small rifles, but caught the "Obama is coming for your guns" bug at the gun shows. No such legislation exists or is even being discussed, but tens of thousands of Americans have responded by buying up supplies of ammo and firearms.
Too many people are far too willing to vilify Obama. Like others posting, I notice that the opposition is not issue based. The personal attacks are far too common, and many of those making the arguments are very ill informed about actual legislation or the real process and POTUS involvement in it.
The next great enlightenment needs to come from the reasonable right, if one actually exists anymore. Marginalized, the fringe will stay on the fringe where the psychos have always played a key role making sure that issues outside the mainstream get some air time. The reasonable need to denounce the loony. The left has splintered, regenerated and come back strong. Is it worth the challenge to un-tarnish the soul of your party?
30 people voted against rape control this week. A slam-dunk of a unanimous vote couldn't come on a shinier silver platter, and yet 30 Senators proved that they have no soul, just opposition.
Disgusting!
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Lindsay
October 21, 2009 10:17 AM
Wow... this is pretty scary.. but I would be interested to know how many death threats were made against Bush. Wasn't there a film made about his "potential" assassination?
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luvamerica
October 22, 2009 2:28 AM in reply to Lindsay
Lindsay, That is the most intelligent question I have heard this whole night. Every President has had death threats. The difference between them and Obama lama ding dong is that he some how thinks that without him life as we know it would end. The death threats are not so much people wanting to kill him as just wishing he would die. HUGE difference. I believe just the words I wrote could get me arrested. Hopefully I will be treated just as the people who killed americans on 9/11.
Doubt it though I am not african american.
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ORTNmom
October 21, 2009 3:57 PM
I would be willing to wager that a healthy percentage of those threats come from the left.
Code pink has been furious that Obama did not vacate Iraq and is debating sending more troops to Afghanistan. The leftist base is questioning why Gitmo is still open and the deadline for closure will not be met. Gays are questioning why gay marriage is still not legal nationwide. NOW is not happy with his sexist czar, Larry Summers. And every leftist is furious that Obama has been so cavalier about healthcare, leaving it to Congress to direct and not unequivocally demanding a public option.
Finally, death threats may also come from the Chicago political machine, since Obama's failure to produce the Olympics left them without the payback they thought they deserved for their assistance in getting him elected.
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luvamerica
October 22, 2009 2:37 AM in reply to ORTNmom
You are 100% right Obama is no different than Al Capone. If you do not agree with him he will bash your head in with A baseball bat. He is the epitamy of Chicago (Gangster) Politics.
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luvamerica
October 22, 2009 2:50 AM
Did everyone go brain dead
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american
October 22, 2009 3:41 AM
obama loves to claim race whenever he can, it's a tool he uses to further his racism. unrest is a powerful tool in his propanda. rev. wright, an i use the word rev choking,,,is a complete radical racist nut. there is nothing resembling religiousness about this man and obama claims him as a mentor haha. says alot, but then you also have obama's mother who hated america with a passion as well. the 400% rise in claimed,,,,,threats ,,,,don't make them threats. articale doesn't say 400% increase in covictions of threatening the president. the constutition guantees us the right to verbal oppose and a duty to even challenge the polical correctness of our leaders. without this right, we'd be no better than hitler. 2.3 million protestors of a mixed political and race recently met in DC to show disagreement with the path obama has taken america. it was the most peaceful protest in history and the largest. the polls show a huge increase in all areas of americans strongly disagreeing with obama. race is a non issue, even if obama trys and trys to play the race card, what race is he claiming??? he's 1/2 white, 1/4 arab and a 1/4 black. he's more a heniz 57 than a "race", he himself has called himself a "mutt". americans strongly disagree with obama in all areas but it in all but a handful of cases has nothing to do with race. he's just wrong on so many levels !!!!
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