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Appearing on MSNBC tonight, Sen. Arlen Specter (D-PA) asserted that the Democrats have the votes to break an expected Republican filibuster on health care -- with or without Sen. Olympia Snowe (R-ME).

"We have 60 votes without Sen. Snowe, so we can still invoke cloture and move to a vote on the public option," he said. Some moderate Democrats, he added, might oppose the public option, but they'd still vote for cloture.

On Snowe, he said, "I hope we have her, but we may be able to do it without her."

Specter, a supporter of the public option, said he's lukewarm on an opt-out public option.

"I think that might be attractive to some people, but I don't think that that will be necessary," he said.

"I think the likelihood is there are 50 plus votes among the Democrats in the Senate to have a robust public option, without an opt out, with a trigger, without any condition. We'll have to see," Specter said.

As far as reconciliation, he said: "Only as a last last last resort."

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October 22, 2009 6:42 PM   

with a trigger?

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October 22, 2009 6:55 PM   

I'm sure that's supposed to be a "without a trigger".. and yay!

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October 22, 2009 7:23 PM   

Who is this man and what the fuck have you done with Arlen Specter?

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October 22, 2009 9:18 PM   

I'll vote for you, sir.

That is, if the Democrats don't indulge in the same primary-for-failing-ideological-purity-test bullshit that drove you out of your former party.

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October 22, 2009 9:49 PM    in reply to Former Federal Employee

Why do you think that he won't just change his tune again, once he doesn't have to worry about Sestak?

He was strongly against lots and lots of things that he is now suddenly strongly for, very very recently. He's done total 180s on a number of issues. And it wasn't even upon becoming a Democrat - he was against Democratic positions even after that. It was only when Sestak started putting the pressure on that he flipped - instantly and completely.

To be clear, I'm not suggesting that you shouldn't vote for him; vote for whoever you want. I would certainly vote for him (were I in Pennsylvania) in the general, if he were to win the primary. But I just don't comprehend how you can possibly think that he won't just flop back once the pressure is off him.

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October 22, 2009 10:44 PM    in reply to Zell

What, is he going to become a Republican again? What could they possibly offer him unless the midterm is an unforeseeable bloodbath? Why would they accept him back, in the middle of their ideological cleansing?

Before Specter made the switch, he offered to help with designing amendments to the National Labor Relations Act as a compromise for getting some of the Employee Free Choice Act's provisions past the perfunctory minority resistance. He also pays attention to what the Supreme Court does, and has introduced legislation to overturn some of their recent questionable decisions (e.g., screwing with a decades-old liberal pleading standard for plaintiffs in Ashcroft v. Iqbal, with no legislative or constitutional basis).

I think Sestak is a lot less important than Reid and his whips, quietly doing their jobs - if only because Sestak's candidacy is too recent for several of his changes of rhetoric. If we treat Specter well, I suspect we'll keep his vote on many more issues than we'll lose him.

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October 22, 2009 11:09 PM    in reply to Former Federal Employee

You are a mark. Plain and simple and Specter is playing you for a fool. Good job. How about voting for an ACTUAL Democrat instead of somebody who is playing one for the time being.

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October 23, 2009 9:50 AM    in reply to theone718

You mean like Joe Sestak? How many minutes prior to declaring his candidacy for PA-7 was he a Democrat, exactly?

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October 22, 2009 9:46 PM   

Remember, Spector was a long time member of the Republican caucus. He is used to playing hardball and getting things done. He is probably aghast at the lack of resolve he found in the Democratic caucus. He is also the one, not Reid, that challenged the caucus to stop a fillibuster on health care.

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October 22, 2009 11:54 PM   

I wonder if the once this seems like a fait accompli, some of these moderate waverers will come aboard, including Snowe. Don't necessarily want to go down in history -- or in your blue state -- as a rightwing obstructionist jackass.

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October 23, 2009 12:16 AM   

This guy should run on the "I Don't Know What the Fuck I Am" ticket.

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