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Is President Obama really not feeling any political pressure from progressives on his looming decision to potentially send tens of thousands more U.S. troops to Afghanistan?

National Security Adviser Gen. James Jones (Ret.) insisted this morning on CNN's State of the Union that political pressure from Obama's progressive base has nothing to do with the President's decision on whether to send more U.S. troops to Afghanistan.

"The strategy does not belong to any political party," Jones said. "And I can assure you that the President of the United States is not playing to any political base."

Jones, seeming almost offended by the line of questioning, also said, "I don't play politics, and I certainly don't play it with national security."

Susan Rice, the U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations, took a similar stance today. When asked on Meet the Press whether political pressure might be a factor in the troop decision, she said firmly: "Absolutely not."

Still, the question really doesn't seem to be whether Obama's feeling any political pressure from liberals on Afghanistan, but rather how big of a role it'll play in his deliberation over whether to grant Gen. Stanley A. McChrystal's request for additional U.S. troops -- reportedly as many as 40,000 -- or to scale back forces and adopt a counterinsurgency strategy as Vice President Joe Biden is said to advocate.

House liberals are already taking action to stop the President from sending more U.S. troops to Afghanistan. Rep. Barbara Lee (D-CA) introduced a bill last week that would "prohibit any increase in the number of members of the United States Armed Forces serving in Afghanistan."

The bill, which has been referred to the House Committee on Armed Services, has 21 cosponsors -- almost all of them from the Congressional Progressive Caucus.

The President may also face hurdles among Democrats in the Senate. On Face the Nation today, Sen. Carl Levin (D-MI) -- chair of the Senate Armed Services Committee -- stuck to the stance he took in a floor speech in September, saying that "what we need a surge of is Afghan troops" rather than U.S. forces.

Meanwhile, the lawmakers getting behind a troop increase aren't traditional Obama supporters. Republicans -- who seem to generally support Gen. McChrystal's request for more troops -- used news of a deadly Taliban assault that killed eight U.S. troops as an example Sunday of why Obama ought to send reinforcements.

"Without reinforcing our troops, you're gonna hear more of what happened today," warned Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC) on Fox News Sunday, adding that "the Taliban are gonna win if we don't change course soon."

Graham also said that a shift to a "counter terrorism strategy" in Afghanistan would be "the biggest strategic blunder post 9/11." And this of U.S. troops:

"They're sitting ducks. They need to be reinforced."

Over on CNN, Sen. Jon Kyl (R-AZ) said members of the Obama administration should stop "being armchair generals" and act decisively in agreeing to what Gen. McChrystal recommends.

Jones said Obama plans to meet twice this week with top advisers on Afghanistan, and expects to make a decision on troops and strategy within a matter of weeks. It's difficult to predict what he'll decide -- and perhaps even more difficult to see how he'll avoid either angering liberal Democrats or ignoring the well-publicized advice of his hand-picked general.

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October 4, 2009 5:24 PM   

The Liberals are really overplaying their hand. "House liberals are already taking action to stop the President from sending more U.S. troops to Afghanistan. Rep. Barbara Lee (D-CA) introduced a bill last week that would "prohibit any increase in the number of members of the United States Armed Forces serving in Afghanistan."

The bill, which has been referred to the House Committee on Armed Services, has 21 cosponsors -- almost all of them from the Congressional Progressive Caucus."

The President hasn't made any sort of decision on this, just like McCain and Graham, they're overreacting so far. What matters is the rationale and not the result.

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October 4, 2009 5:31 PM    in reply to calchala

Yes, Obama needs to find a rationale for more blood and biliions lost in a place he, like the rest of us, barely understands. Let him find a rationale. It will not be easy.

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October 4, 2009 5:35 PM    in reply to diachronic

There is definitely a cause to stay---at least in the short run. The question is can there be a justification for staying longer. If he provides one, and it's goals are achieveable, I would be hard pressed to deny the President those troops that he needs to achieve that goal.

Of course, those are BIG ifs. But prejudging is basically just reactionary and over the top.

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October 4, 2009 5:47 PM    in reply to calchala

I am not prejudging. I am waiting for a rationale. This is not a new war. I, like everyone else, have had time to reflect on this war. Rationales don't come easy once you're eight years in and counting. I am not alone in thinking that what we are likely to get at this point are not rationales, but rationalizations. I have seen plenty of those already.

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October 5, 2009 6:20 AM    in reply to calchala

Sorry, after this many years, there is little to prejudge. Were you alive during the Vietnam years ? Are you familiar with the history of this area ? Have you heard the name graveyard of empires ? Or do you think that with our modern army, we can roll over this area as no one has ever done before ?

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October 4, 2009 6:05 PM    in reply to diachronic

Boy howdy!

The only sensible thing to do to protect our troops is to get the hell out of Afghanistan NOW!

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October 4, 2009 9:21 PM    in reply to calchala

I share calchala's feeling. I'm a lifelong progressive - but I get very uneasy with the knee-jerk "liberal" position that all military engagement is bad - and biden's plan seems (like alot of Biden's idea's) hasty and reflexive.

We need a real policy, based on awareness of the past and present.

The US has suffered catastrophically from ignoring Afganistan after we "won" there in 1989; we compounded the error by ignoring it again after we "won" in 2002. (W.'s 2003 reconstruction budget for Afghanistan: $0)

There are terrible problems on the other side: the Taliban are tough fighters on their home turf; massive US engagement may worsen the situation rather than helping; Karzai is a corrupt thug.

But the whole charade of passing congressional resolutions against the war is a throwback to precisely the Viet Nam mentality we have to get beyond.

We need to forge a true national policy. Repubs have to commit the tax $ if they want to fight. And what are we actually fighting for? Who are we actually fighting for?

We're fighting militants who are increasingly detested in the Islamic world for their violence and fantacism. The question is, how do we fight?

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October 4, 2009 5:30 PM   

The number of troops in Afghanistan were basically static since the middle of 2002 until just recently, Senator Graham. Why didn't you say something sooner?

I fantasize about someone actually asking you this question, knowing it will never happen.

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October 4, 2009 5:39 PM   

And it is dismaying that there is insistence that somehow war is not a political act.
What are politicians for , if the generals decide everything?
Damn Obama. He is clever- but too clever, and not clever enough. Watching his Admin deny that war is not political is pathetic.
Obama, put Mullen in the WH. We are now Sparta.

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October 4, 2009 8:39 PM   

To quote from the classic film, Amityville Horror .... "Get out!"

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October 4, 2009 8:49 PM   

When you're wounded and left on Afghanistan's plains,
And the women come out to cut up what remains,
Just roll to your rifle and blow out your brains,
And go to your Gawd like a soldier.

Kipling

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October 4, 2009 9:27 PM   

This McChyrstal genius would have been right at home in Vietnam, 1961. "Just a few more troops. We can win this thing in a few months!"

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October 4, 2009 9:36 PM   

It is times like this when everyone is loosing their head, that I am glad Obama is president. If there is one area he seems absolutely clear its his decisions regarding war and peace.

Thats why he stated he would talk to Iran even when it was unfashionable and admitting he was ready to blow out Osama if spotted in Pakistan with or without their approval.

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October 4, 2009 11:44 PM   

Wish list for Christmas...

For the Senate and House to vote to mandate NO vacation time or recess while our REAL heroes are over in foreign lands supposedly fighting for these same Senators and Congressmen.

Won't happen, though, because THESE clowns are not capable of such a harsh thing as forgoing fundraisers, trips to Paris, and all those other flagrant excesses they can steal from the public... and the commoners willing to die for them...

Such a travesty... if those in Washington WERE to pass this, we would see much more discussion and many fewer wars... not that we actually get into them easily. After all, the North Vietnamese COULD have attacked us in the Gulf of Tonkin, Iraq MIGHT have attacked Quwait even without our approval and those women testifying in front of Congress MAY have once visited traumatized youth wounded by the Iraqi army. Also, Hussein may STILL have some long range, nuclear warheads sitting around waiting for his return from the dead.
When are we going to wake up and start punishing the REAL enemies of this once great nation... Those mobsters we send to Washington who, once elected, spend their time destroying this country and all the other ones within their power... WITHOUT ANY CONSEQUENCES!

Okay... rant over.... feel better (for now)

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October 4, 2009 11:47 PM   

There is no rationale for another troop increase in Afghanistan. Gen. McChrystal is the typical Pentagon hawk with take a "no prisoners" attitude towards foreign policy.

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October 5, 2009 2:29 AM   

"Political pressure" = Obama paying attention to those who voted for him and remembering why they voted for him. It was not to accelerate the occupations of Iraq and Afghanistan; it was not to send more troops. It was to BRING THEM HOME.

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October 5, 2009 7:23 AM   

Has anyone taken into account that all of this to and fro is intentional? It's called buying time. See here: http://www.talleyrand.net/2009.10.04_arch.html#1254733421893

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