White House Communications Director Anita Dunn slammed Fox News in an interview on CNN with Howie Kurtz this morning, saying that Fox News "is more a wing of the Republican Party" than an objective news organization.
"The reality of it is that Fox News often operates almost as either the research arm or the communications arm of the Republican Party," Dunn said.
This follows up on Dunn's comment to Time earlier this week that Fox News is "opinion journalism masquerading as news." And as we've reported before, the White House and Fox News don't have the warmest relationship to start with.
But this morning, Dunn seems to have taken the White House's criticism of Fox News to the next level. For instance, she said that when President Obama talks to Fox News, he approaches it differently than other cable networks.
When he goes on Fox, he understands he's not going on it really as a news network at this point, he's going on to debate the opposition.
"Let's not pretend they're a news network the way CNN is," Dunn said.
And this: "They're widely viewed as part of the Republican Party. Take their talking points, put 'em on the air."
As an example, Dunn pointed to last fall, when the United States was grappling with a financial crisis, two wars and a historic election.
"If you were a Fox News viewer in the fall election, what you would have seen would have been that the biggest stories and the biggest threats facing America were a guy named Bill Ayers and something called ACORN."
We'll be watching for Fox News' response.
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Former Federal Employee
October 11, 2009 12:45 PM
Yeah, but I view just about all televised journalism as being this, anyway. Everybody's got a slant. Some are better about presenting all the salient facts than others.
Frankly, if I'm interested in something and I want news on it, I start online with WaPo or NYT dishing me the survey-course version, and then I start Googling. I get to blogs and specialty journals from there, that cover what's being discussed. I get video on authors giving Q&As on books covering the recent issues.
Sure, Fox News is to actual news reporting what a Jack Chick tract is to an annotated King James Bible. But that doesn't make almost anybody else's coverage better, except by comparison to Fox's incredibly low bar.
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johnmccsf
October 11, 2009 12:51 PM in reply to Former Federal Employee
hear hear
I only add that Murdoch is lowering the bar for the rest of the MSM
That means you Fred Hiatt
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jtbear60
October 11, 2009 1:01 PM in reply to Former Federal Employee
Wow, can I have your job that allows you to spend all that time reading news reports and blogs? Most Americans are too busy working two crappy jobs to dig into news stories and that's exactly what the corporations who own the news outlets want. Then add in the "dumbing down" of our educational system, ie...no civics classes anymore, and we are right where corporate overloads want us: ignorant, uninformed, and too tired to pay attention to anything but the 15 second sound bite.
America used to have real reporters doing real reporting and news rooms were loss leaders. Now because corporations own the news outlets they must make money so they have cut reporting staff, they HAVE to be the first with the news reported, which means less fact checking, and more "easy, low hanging fruit" reported.
Now the cable, (no FCC oversight like for broadcast) channel in question here "creates" news, editing sound bites to "prove" their point and then cheerleads the reponse calling that news too. Dishonest from start to finish.
The solution is to bring ALL of these outlets under the same FCC guidelines and regulations and force them to go back to real reporting. The info-tainment is doing more harm than good.
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Former Federal Employee
October 11, 2009 7:47 PM in reply to jtbear60
Wow, can I have your job that allows you to spend all that time reading news reports and blogs? Most Americans are too busy working two crappy jobs to dig into news stories and that's exactly what the corporations who own the news outlets want.
Whose fault is that? More importantly, whose problem does that ultimately become? The news outlets, or Americans at large? I'm thinking it's our responsibility to inform ourselves, and if we don't, we should expect others to take advantage of our ignorance. (I'm not touting that as an ideal, just the way it is and always shall be.)
The solution is to bring ALL of these outlets under the same FCC guidelines and regulations and force them to go back to real reporting. The info-tainment is doing more harm than good.
What is so impressive about the news coverage of the stations that remain under the FCC?
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Overreach THIS!
October 11, 2009 1:46 PM in reply to Former Federal Employee
It's a false comparison, period. Fox News is not "pretty much" like other news networks, not it any way.
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Former Federal Employee
October 11, 2009 7:48 PM in reply to Overreach THIS!
Fox News is the most flagrant about it, but it's more of an issue of scope than of kind.
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randy.nyc
October 11, 2009 1:52 PM in reply to Former Federal Employee
This is how I've been informing myself for years, and I've been skeptical of corporate media for longer than there have been web browsers. There's more to being informed than staying on top of the "news." News has become an industrial product with manufacturing and distribution systems so MacDonaldized that it creates dependency in all who produce or consume it. Going to the "good" news brands instead of the "bad" ones like fox and thinking that you're informed is a lot like going to Burger King instead of Jack In The Box and thinking that you're well nourished - it's a sucker's point of view.
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BigDaddy
October 11, 2009 12:53 PM
Sure, you could argue that everyone has a little subjective slant, but Fox is a consciously designed, HQ-run, full fledged, domestic propaganda machine. If there is a little subjective peanut butter in everybody's objective chocolate bar, Fox is a full Double Reese's - and easy on the chocolate - oh, and the PB is poisoned. Thank God that people with a megaphone are finally speaking out clearly against these bastards.
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brewmn61
October 11, 2009 1:51 PM in reply to BigDaddy
The problem is, as Bob Somerby and Media Matters have proven beyond any doubt, is that Fox drives the other coverage. In order to stay viable with the Fox News noise machine, the other networks have slanted their coverage in order to keep that (apparently desirable) group of viewers from tuning them out completely.
It's a disgusting, but all too common, sacrifice of accurate and objective journalism in favor of providing news consumers with what they want.
In the Atlantic last month, there was an article in praise of Al Jazeera for objective coverage with a global reach. Not being much of a fan of unregulated globalization, I nevertheless would love to see it work in the case of news coverage, and maybe AJ could prod CNN or PBS into trying to "compete" with it in providing the American consumer with a better product.
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Atlas Scruggs
October 11, 2009 2:29 PM in reply to brewmn61
Because the watchword of the day is "balance". All Faux has to do is start screaming "the sky is green, the sky is green" however ridiculous they may actually believe the claim to be, and all of a sudden the rest of the media pop headlines: "Sky: is it Really Green?" and feeling dutybound to feature "Sky is Green" editorials to balance the libruhl bias that it's some other damn color. This has been going on for decades, although Faux is a relative newcomer to the game.
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Subliminability
October 11, 2009 12:59 PM
Bravo Anita Dunn!
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East Coast Aussie
October 11, 2009 9:52 PM in reply to Subliminability
Agreed 100%! She told it like it is. It will be interesting to see how Faux react to this, whether they refute it with anger and insult or whether they choose to ignore it.
I certainly hope the realisation of what Faux is propogates further until it's adopted and understood across the board without exception.
This is the direction The Bachmann Vortex Of Crazy takes the Republicans in. First their voters, then their members and now their viewers. Soon it'll be their party. Great to see it finally starting to implode.
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JEP07
October 12, 2009 9:14 AM in reply to East Coast Aussie
"It will be interesting to see how Faux react to this, whether they refute it with anger and insult or whether they choose to ignore it."
You left out "proudly embrace it as a badge of dishonor."
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lapdogs
October 11, 2009 1:08 PM
FAUX is the Network for Republican (and Roger Ailes) Talking Points?
Really?
http://crooksandliars.com/2008/07/25/mcclellan-white-house-gave-fox-commentators-talking-points#comment-713169
Could Have Fooled Me (snark)
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chucktrotter
October 11, 2009 1:13 PM
Fox news continues to maintain the highest ratings. I, for, the life of me couldn't understand this until I realized that the majority of open-minded Americans have several viewing choices during prime time...The knuckle draggers just have Fox. Note that the numbers of viewers change very little from week to week. This also applies to the books authored by the hate mongers. Initial sales are magnified by bulk buying initiated by right wing organizations that have been known to give the new releases to donors as the book hits the Time's best seller list. A month later, there on the 75%-off tables at Walden Books.
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AhTrini1
October 11, 2009 1:54 PM in reply to chucktrotter
Chris Matthews made a very good point, we can't call them knuckle draggers, since they don't believe in evolution.
"The knuckle draggers just have Fox."
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chucktrotter
October 11, 2009 8:03 PM in reply to AhTrini1
Have you ever visited a "red" state?
“What's in a name? That which we call a rose By any other name would smell as sweet”
William Shakespeare
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Amelie
October 11, 2009 1:14 PM
Sadly, many folks like my mother really believe Fox is 'news' and buy into their entire philosophy. I don't recognize mom anymore, she use to be reasonable, now she is combative. We cannot discuss anything political.
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Overreach THIS!
October 11, 2009 1:49 PM in reply to Amelie
This is one reason why Obama shouldn't enable them by pretending with them that they're news. That's just making the problem worse.
They aren't journalists and they don't broadcast news. If they want to play "let's pretend" they can do it alone and at their expense.
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East Coast Aussie
October 11, 2009 9:58 PM in reply to Overreach THIS!
You're right, however wouldn't Obama routinely going on Faux and calling a spade a spade not only stop the BS in it's tracks but also therefore reach a higher percentage of viewers?
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converse
October 11, 2009 5:49 PM in reply to Amelie
Hey, sis.
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GregorZap
October 12, 2009 12:40 PM in reply to Amelie
I don't recognize mom anymore, she use to be reasonable, now she is combative. We cannot discuss anything political.
Isn't it remarkable that they have created this hair trigger reaction to anything that has the slightest scent of liberalism?
Offer someone a couple kernals of popcorn and the FOX Folks call you are a Socialist.
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lapdogs
October 11, 2009 1:15 PM
Remember the movie "Outfoxed"?
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6737097743434902428#
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synchronicity
October 11, 2009 1:18 PM
Fox is definitely serving a right wing agenda. I personally think it is serving the pseudo-christian mafia and neocon agenda more than the republican party in general...
They seek to dumb down and manage the population through fear and confusion. They oppose anything that does not serve their purposes and control no matter how idiotic their opposition is.
When the minority leader in the senate says 'why don't we ask the American people what they want?' regarding health care reform because he is promoting a highly biased Fox News poll demonstrating that a majority of Americans do 'not' want reform... basically disregarding all other polls that reflect that a majority of American people 'do' want a true, robust public option...
it makes the minority leader look like a completely ignorant man who cannot discern fact from fiction.
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tmc
October 11, 2009 1:37 PM
People get all worked up over Faux being some kind of new, sinister phenomenon. I "recall" that this "might have happened" before in this country's history. Hmm, "yellow journalism," anyone? We survived. The truth outs.
Major kudos for the White House pointing it out instead of the usual Democratic strategy of being afraid of our own shadow.
And now, expect a lot of righteous indignation from the Faux noise machine in reaction.
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AhTrini1
October 11, 2009 1:59 PM in reply to tmc
While they are confronting them, and putting on a good show, the WH is still afraid of its own shadow, when it comes to "calling them out". I haven't heard them call out Michelle Bachmann., Orin Hatch, Max Baucus and his atrocious bill.
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GregorZap
October 12, 2009 2:05 PM in reply to tmc
This may be brilliant!
Get Fake News to waste their air time talking about how they are not faking the news, and we can work on healthcare. We can even have them mouthing the words FOX fakes the news to their audience, which is what they hear as they hear it being defended. It plants an important seed where we need to grow some truth.
Get Fake News talking about Obama's battle for the GLBT to rule the world, and they cannot work against healthcare.
This is borrowing a Rovian tactic. Throw up a sh*tstorm of irrelevant dramatic issues and you can work under the radar on your real agenda. Let's talk Terri Schiavo and Right to Life when they really just wanted to regulate everything to profit at the expense of the environment and the military.
Does Obama actually have a decent healthcare reform with a public option as a foundation of that reform? Time will tell, but I smell victory for HCR.
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Seafarer
October 11, 2009 1:38 PM
This needs to be taken to the next level, to not pretend or "avoid the topic" anymore. It's all of News Corp; the Wall Street Journal, New York Post, and Times of London are just differing facets. Ergo, it's Rupert Murdoch's agenda writ large and forced on Americans against their will.
It's clear as day from the way Drudge Report utilizes the links, linking anything negative any of the three rags use against America.
News Corp is a contemporary of The Washington Times and World Net Daily.
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Winston Smith
October 11, 2009 1:45 PM
Aside from demonstrating mastery of the obvious, I can't imagine what "The White House" stands to gain from engaging in a petty battle with Fucks News.
And let's not use Fucks News as an excuse to pretend that CNN is not a "wing" of the Wall Street oligarchy.
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Seafarer
October 11, 2009 1:51 PM in reply to Winston Smith
Nonsense, the Right and the GOP have been waging ideological terror campaigns on American citizens for years, as "covered" by News Corp--and I wish this would stop getting reported as The White House versus Fox. It's News Corp versus America.
The more the majority of America, those who are not extreme right wing, take this on, the more the rest of the mainstream media will take on and examine News Corp's practices.
Expose and marginalize with the truth until nothing remains but irrelevancy, discredited "news sources", and broken stock prices.
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Cal Gal
October 11, 2009 3:26 PM in reply to Seafarer
Can you think of a more Orwellian organization than one named "News Corp"? Sort of like they renamed Halliburton Peace Corp., but I guess that name was already taken.
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JEP07
October 12, 2009 9:16 AM in reply to Seafarer
Is that avatar Lo Pan?
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Seafarer
October 12, 2009 12:09 PM in reply to JEP07
Actually, he's a sailor.
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Overreach THIS!
October 11, 2009 1:58 PM in reply to Winston Smith
We talked about it in the chat.
Normally you never take on the press, that's right, they just go after your and they have got all that ink, etc. Here, though, they aren't the press and no matter what Obama does they'll viviously, endlessly go after him.
All he can do is legitimize them by pretending that they are newsmen, or he can dismiss them for the craven buffoons that they are. It won't affect how they respond to him. By dismissing, he shows leadership by informing the electorate that they can watch if they want, but they haven't yet met their civic duty of informing themselves as to the news. That's separate.
So it makes sense to me.
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rynato
October 11, 2009 2:35 PM in reply to Winston Smith
I was wondering that myself, Winston. Then again, they engaged with Rush Limbaugh who is even deeper in the tank than Fox News and I think that was a win for the WH.
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fitsol
October 11, 2009 2:03 PM
There is huge difference between slant and lies. Time and time again Fox News has been exposed for giving false information. Fox news will give contradicting accounts with in the span of time it takes one talking head to leave the mic and another one to take his/her place.My only wonder is when does the defamation cases start making the news.
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Cal Gal
October 11, 2009 3:29 PM in reply to fitsol
One of my favorites is how every time a Republican in Congress gets in trouble, they put a D under his name.
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Rootman
October 11, 2009 2:17 PM
Happy to see the White House do this. I just did a post on the possibility that the GOP does as much for Fox as Fox does for the GOP.
http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/blogs/rootman/2009/10/republican-party-is-just-a-win.php
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gizmo
October 11, 2009 2:21 PM
Glad to see the White House pushing back against FAUX News, but sorry to see her give any credence to CNN, which is just another corporate mouthpiece.
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MarinCoUSA
October 11, 2009 2:53 PM
....love me the sound of bitch slap politics in the morning....
Someone find out what General Dunn eats for breakfast and get a case of it to all D members of Congress (and their talking head surrogates).
Sheeeeesh. IAFT!
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MarinCoUSA
October 11, 2009 2:53 PM
....love me the sound of bitch slap politics in the morning....
Someone find out what General Dunn eats for breakfast and get a case of it to all D members of Congress (and their talking head surrogates).
Sheeeeesh. IAFT!
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Cal Gal
October 11, 2009 3:18 PM
You go, girl!
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agio
October 11, 2009 3:56 PM
Also, water is wet.
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juccikucci
October 11, 2009 4:02 PM
Confrontation with Fox is the best strategy.
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cmaukonen
October 11, 2009 5:28 PM
Nobody kid themselves. Television news is mostly entertainment because entertainment attracts viewers and therefore advertising. FOX is simply more entertainment than the rest.
C
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hewhohasnoname
October 11, 2009 7:42 PM in reply to cmaukonen
I agree. The entertainment aspect is part of what motivates them to identify "the conflict" of an issue, and highlight that "conflict," often at the expense of substantive explorations of the matter. Some journalists have stated that their editors won't run articles or do segments unless their pieces have some type of "conflict."
I've also noticed that the news has gotten more blatant in demonstrating its entertainment motivations. For example, Brian Williams pops up in movies and comedy sketches or on late-night talk shows. He's not simply an anchor; he's the "star" of the Nightly News.
These news shows also blatantly promote other entertainment shows on their network: They do promotional program announcements for those shows during their news programs and these news shows often conveniently feature clips from other shows on their network or highlight movies that are produced by production companies that their network also owns. The self-promotion is often shameless.
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Maritza
October 11, 2009 6:28 PM
EXACTLY!
The White House has to call out FAUX NEWS for what it is, an mouthpiece of the GOP.
At least the opinion people on MSNBC like Ed Schultz, Olberman, and Maddow DO bash Obama if they think he is WRONG on something.
FAUX NEWS, even the non pundit news section focuses on things that have NO relevancy ie ACORN, czars, etc.
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fucktheboujies
October 11, 2009 7:49 PM
Oh, like CNN doesn't spread corporate propaganda?!!
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Leftflank
October 11, 2009 9:00 PM
She must have been about ready to explode. This isn't new news (no pun intended). It's way beyond time to call out these repugnant fear/hate/war mongers. It might even knock them off step in their full time anti-Obama parade.
I like how she didn't name names, just fox as a whole/hole.
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gohoos
October 11, 2009 10:40 PM
What, one media outlet doesn't tow the party line and the poor little White House gets bent out of shape? Waaaah.
They aren't used to "journalists" who don't have obama-gasms after each press conference. Please go take a look at some of the election night coverage from any of the MSM and find me some of this fabled "objective journalism." Or, Google "Washington Post macaca" for more objective fun. Or, explain how over 80% of Washington reporters vote Democrat. (What respectable reporter would even ANSWER such a poll?)
They tell me journalism was once an honourable profession. I haven't seen it in my lifetime. Now all we have is a bunch of guys slanting one way and a few guys slanting the other. The truth is usually somewhere in between.
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Kuyleh
October 12, 2009 2:06 AM in reply to gohoos
Hey, do we have a nice, big banhammer for blatantly obvious trolls like this one? Noone can seriously hold that opinion of Faux with one functioning braincell remaining.
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JEP07
October 12, 2009 9:13 AM in reply to gohoos
"one media outlet doesn't tow the party line"
You mean "toe the party line?"
Your grammatical error is actually quite accurate. Fox News tows the Republican party line around like a tugboat on a polluted river.
And I still think Rove's never left the scene, the Fox liars are all getting their lies from one source, along with the rest of Wingnuttia's radio and TV jerks.
At times, they all seem to be quoting word for word, and whoever parroted the Rove (or whoever it is) talking point first, usually gets "credit" for starting the untruth cycle, when in actuality, they are all getting their talking points from one sleazy source.
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dutara
October 11, 2009 11:31 PM
The name is Ailes, Roger Ailes.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_Ailes
http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=1067
The previous administration may have been the most powerful one in history because it had its own network. Defenders like to point to the leftward leanings of CNN, and that's a joke: Fox is so extreme they make can make nearly anyone look liberal (also, IMO, CNN isn't that good).
I think Murdoch couldn't give a toss about the politics, as long as the ratings are there. It is funny though when they have to push Fox Corp product that doesn't adhere to the mindset, like the Borat movie.
Murdoch himself had some leaning toward Hillary: I think he was seeking a place in history, figuring if he helped her get elected he would make into the history books. He gave a fundraiser for her in late 2007/early 2008. He backed off from the primaries, but I think if she would have gotten the nomination he would have pushed for her, and I was waiting to see what he would do to Fox News, dismantle the Ailes machine? (this is my sole disappointment of Hillary losing the primaries).
It may be my own warped sense of things, but to me it all seems a self-parody, like an edition of Mad magazine making fun of the right. I think the only ones who don't get the joke are O'Reilly (Limbaugh says "he's Ted Baxter") and the people who watch that garbage and then feel compelled to go out and spread the word.
Good for the White House for taking this bullsh_t by the horns.
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jurassicpork
October 11, 2009 11:57 PM
And what's the research arm of Fox? Matt Drudge.
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stanjz
October 12, 2009 3:00 AM
All of the media is made up of huge multi-national corporations. They cannot possibly be liberal because the corporate agenda is to always lower taxes and never add regulations. Democrate are the only ones willing to do those things. Our media actually works in the reverse way it's supposed to. Instead of protecting the average person, the media protects corporations. Our media undermines our democracy right in front of our faces. Corporate propaganda also reaches progressive webstes like Daily Kos with Markos advertising PBS's propaganda "Obama's War." The Nobel was so irksome to corporate America because they have been setting President Obama up for the squeeze with Afghanistan for months. They had many progressive media personalities like Maddow,Moyers, Moore(and many others) use the old Republican "weak" meme when rferring to Democrats. This was something they were prepared to use after pressuring Obama to exit Afghanistan early. If pandering to corporations makes politicians weak, than Republicans must be near comatose.Olbermann tried to bring down Obama's numbers for months by pressuring him to use his precious energy and political capital on going after Bush on torture. I still don't know how any conviction wouldn't get appealed to the Supreme Court where Bush's buddies would help him get away with it.
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oleeb
October 12, 2009 3:13 AM
Ya gotta wonder what took the Obama White House so long in figuring out Fox is the enemy. Remember while a candidate Obama was all too eager to play footsie with them. I'm glad he isn't doing that anymore.
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Legion303
October 12, 2009 3:18 AM
Let's not pretend CNN is a real news network, either. The shit I've seen on there is one step above "Liberals: Why Do They Hate America?" but it still boils down to "Pretty White Girl Missing: the Nancy Grace Update."
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Gilead
October 12, 2009 3:44 AM
The Obama admin needs to push back hard. Fox is an adjunct of the Republican Party and a lobby wing for corporate policy tanks.
Although Fox is the worst offender, the corporate news media, as a structure, are not on our side.
It's good to see the Obama admin finally push back. Someone needs to be on the side of the people.
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ronbyers
October 12, 2009 7:35 AM
Go to any airport in Red State America. Odds are you will see Fox News 24/7 on the overhead screens. Tell me the local Republican establishments aren't pushing Fox indoctrination.
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JEP07
October 12, 2009 9:21 AM in reply to ronbyers
Also the majority of U.S. military brass prefers Fox over all the others, particularly what is broadcast to our troops.
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JON M. STOUT
October 12, 2009 9:23 AM
Fox News is NOT like the other news outlets. It has three times the audience of CNN, does not falsify documents like CBS and Dan Rather, and does not have idiots like Chris Mathews and the thrill he gets in his leg.
But the major difference is that Fox is fair and balanced and Obama is afraid of Fox because the American people will learn the TRUTH!
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lizbensky
October 12, 2009 10:14 AM
Take off your thinking caps children, we will be watching Fox News in class today.
-- comment inspired by Sister Mary Elephant
Fox will be all over Anita Dunn's comments. Will the White House distance themselves? Fox News turns a good profit. Should we get upset with a corporation in service of capitalism? Their consumers seem happy.
After all, Fox News only leads the sheep to the astroturf for evenings of lazy grazing. The fact that the sheep are convinced that they are actually eating grass with roots, and that thier hunger is satisfied, is indicitive of thier pet-like domestication. The sheep provide the Wool, the lanolin, the cheesy milk and the meat. The muttonheads sustain the Foxes.
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GregorZap
October 12, 2009 12:42 PM in reply to lizbensky
Iknow this is snark, but this statement has no evidence to support it at all. "Their consumers seem happy." It is tis lack of happiness that defines the FOX Volks.
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lizbensky
October 12, 2009 4:06 PM in reply to GregorZap
Fair enough, better to say that 'they happily believe Fox's horseshit'
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ajkrueger
October 12, 2009 10:35 AM
Calling FOX news./i> is ridiculous! The on air (cough-choke) personalities certainly have and express their own opinions - which is fine with me, but, let's not pretend it is a REAL news organization: We distort, you decide!
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Gregw
October 12, 2009 10:44 AM
Jon M Stout, finally a voice from the brainwashed. I have been waiting to hear from a faux addict. I was beginning to wonder if there really were any faux fans. You need to post more often and we can all visualize your ignorance rather than imagine it.
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duanes
October 13, 2009 10:42 AM
fox new in itself is a joke,,,, it speaks exactly from the talking points of the gop and if its not a democratic hater then why dont they ever carry a presedental speech,,,i guess bill oreilly and greta are far more important,,,,,fox news should get the award for making up the most lies of the century, and no Im a independant,,,,,,
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