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On Fox and Friends this morning, Raw Story points out, host Brian Kilmeade suggested, in light of the shootings at Fort Hood, that the military start doing special screenings of Muslim servicemen and women.

"Do you think it's time for the military to have special debriefings of Muslim Army officers, anybody enlisted? Because if I'm gonna be deployed in a foxhole, if I'm gonna be sitting in an outpost, I gotta know the guy next to me is not gonna wanna kill me," Kilmeade said.

(Check out the video here.)

Geraldo Rivera commendably pointed out that there are several million Muslims in America, and that many serve in the military and are highly valued. Another host, Gretchen Carlson, interrupted in order to point the blame at "political correctness."

"Could it be that the military was also exercising political correctness, even though he had a poor performance report and even though he spoke openly about being a radical Muslim and had those supposed postings online?" she asked.

The third host, Fox legal analyst Peter Johnson pressed Rivera.

"You won't countenance special screenings for Muslims, will you?" he asked.

"That would be a hard step for me to take," Rivera responded.

(Via Spencer Ackerman)

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November 6, 2009 2:59 PM   

FOX: Why not force Muslims to wear armbands with a crescent, or perhaps put them all in camps?

FOX: Health care reform is just like Hitler!

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November 6, 2009 3:59 PM    in reply to Why oh why

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Should the military have a special debriefing of enlisted Muslim officers?

http://www.youpolls.com/details.asp?pid=6449

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November 6, 2009 4:19 PM    in reply to JeffB

Thank you for the link. It is astounding to me that so many Americans fail to recognize how many decent law-abiding Muslims there are in the U.S.

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November 6, 2009 4:20 PM    in reply to JeffB

Thank you for the link. It is astounding to me that so many Americans fail to recognize how many decent law-abiding Muslims there are in the U.S.

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November 6, 2009 4:27 PM    in reply to JeffB

Fox News: Where Geraldo Rivera is the voice of reason.

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November 6, 2009 4:28 PM    in reply to Ann Arbor

Oops, not meant as reply -- just general snark.

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November 6, 2009 5:54 PM    in reply to JeffB

Should JeffB be forced to wear a pink-and-white mottled armband marked "SPAMMER"?

http://www.youpolls.com/details.asp?pid=6743

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November 6, 2009 5:14 PM    in reply to Why oh why

Maybe FEMA can build some concentration camps to intern these people? I'm sure Malkin and Beck would love those kind of camps.

How do these wingnuts knwo what policy they support on any given day? Is there a daily chart????

ILLEGAL WIRETAPPING OF AMERICANS -- GOOD
SPECIAL SCREENING/LISTS OF MUSLIMS - GOOD
FEMA CAMPS FOR CONSERVATIVES - BAD
BIG GOVT MILITARY - GOOD
BIG GOVT (NON MILITARY) - BAD
BIG MILTIARY BUDGETS - ALWAYS GOOD
BIG NON-MILITARY BUDGETS - CATASTROPHE
ANTIWAR RALLIES - UNPATRIOTIC TERRORIST SYMPATHIZERS
ANTI-GOVT RALLIES - FREEDOM FIGHTERS!!!

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November 8, 2009 1:28 AM    in reply to AnswerFrog

So true; good insight.

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November 6, 2009 3:07 PM   

Why not get behind special screenings for Muslim troops? As long as they start simultaneously screening out the "let's take Bibles to Iraq" crowd and the "we're on a holy war to start the Rapture" folks. Oh, and they need to screen the hell out of whoever thought Old Testament quotes were appropriate on a DoD briefing cover.

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November 6, 2009 7:16 PM    in reply to Matt Jones

I was thinking the same thing. Religious extremism is religious extremism, no matter how you cut it.

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November 6, 2009 3:14 PM   

Probably should round them up, just to be safe.

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November 6, 2009 3:15 PM   

I just wish they could get past the bumper stickers. e.g. the quip about "political correctness". Such a comment trivializes the subject matter.

If this is a discussion about something worth doing then the essence of the argument should be "is it time to repeal the religion clause of the first amendment?" Let's hear the brainiacs at Fox take a bite out of that one.

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November 6, 2009 4:48 PM    in reply to mjclare

You may also have to repeal the part of Article VI that says, "no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States."

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November 9, 2009 12:46 AM    in reply to slb

Required isn't the same as prefered.

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November 9, 2009 12:45 AM    in reply to mjclare

When you can't talk bluntly about a subject due to political correctness, we DO have a problem. I've seen several times, on this site, very raw speach about people of faith. Great. But that freedom needs to extent to all groups, reguardless of race, religion, or creed.

That's the problem people have with political correctness, it takes away from our freedom.

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November 6, 2009 3:21 PM   

Gee, with all the guns around how did anyone die? I mean, isn't that the solution advocated for Virginia Tech, Columbine, NAME-YOUR-GUN-MASSACRE? Apparently an abundance of weaponry doesn't stop mad men. As for screening for Muslims, what about Tim McVeigh? Let's also screen for Christians. Come to think of it, lose all religious soldiers and the world will actually be a better place.

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November 6, 2009 3:33 PM    in reply to CranialRectalLoopback

A better solution: Lose all religion and the world would be a much better place.

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November 6, 2009 3:49 PM    in reply to CranialRectalLoopback

The conservative response to that would predicatbly be "if there hadn't been armed men around even more people would have died."

Also, Tim McVeigh was a closet Muslim. I also have heard through the grapevine that he was born in Kenya. Have you seen his birth certificate?

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November 6, 2009 4:38 PM    in reply to CranialRectalLoopback

Christians with Irish surnames. Meaning Brian Kilmeade would be included.

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November 6, 2009 4:45 PM    in reply to CranialRectalLoopback

I agree with your basic point regarding the guns, but the fact of the matter is, except for security personnel, guns aren't carried on an army base except when they are being used in a training exercise. The only guy in the room with a gun was the shooter.

Not that I think a roomful of guns would have made matters much better, and in fact, I heard on the radio this morning that they are investigating the possibility that some of the people who were shot were actually shot by the police rather than the shooter himself. (But that may well be a routine thing to check out in cases like this.)

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November 6, 2009 3:27 PM   

One news report indicated that the soldiers were not armed while on base. Perhaps one of the active duty or retired military folks can comment on this.

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November 6, 2009 3:42 PM    in reply to Gloria

I remember that was Gen. Cone speaking to the press last night. He said that "the base is our home" the soldiers are not armed "when they are home" except MPs and some civilian law enforcement officers.

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November 6, 2009 3:32 PM   

I bet he doesn't think the extreme White Christians should receive special screening.

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November 6, 2009 3:48 PM   

I think gun-toting redneck republicans everywhere are upset that a shooting spree massacre occurred without their participation.

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November 6, 2009 4:09 PM   

Thanks, Sashimi. That tallies with what I read.

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November 6, 2009 4:18 PM   

why stop at the army? why not just screen them all before you let them enter the state of texas?

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November 6, 2009 4:24 PM   

The MSMs simplification of news had diluted the entire issue in 24 hrs, even before the facts could come to light nevertheless.


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November 6, 2009 4:26 PM   

I see Josh is meeting with the President today.

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November 6, 2009 5:00 PM    in reply to DestinyofAmelie

Thanks for the link Desti, I rarely swing by Huffington Post any more.

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November 6, 2009 5:22 PM    in reply to bluesplashy

Me too. With Huffpo you'd believe the world would end before the end of the day. Their out and right "false" and overblown headlines and baseless implosions give me a headache.

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November 6, 2009 5:39 PM    in reply to DestinyofAmelie

Hmm. Off the record. So just general cozying up to friendly media, or what?

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November 6, 2009 4:31 PM   

there should also be special screenings for anyone whose hair resembles brian kilmeade's

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November 6, 2009 4:33 PM   

Well duh, obviously political correctness is to blame. You telling me all those soldiers wouldn't have opened fire and blown dude to kingdom come if the shooter hadn't been one of them Islamofascists? They probably held back, figuring that Obama would make them scrub all the toilets in Texas with a toothbrush for shooting a fellow Muslim

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November 6, 2009 4:38 PM   

My spouse recently retired from Government. They had an info meeting a few years back on Islam and Muslims. He walked away with great respect for the religion and was amazed at the number in the U.S. and the world committed to this religion.

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November 6, 2009 4:38 PM   

Timothy McVeigh was a non-muslim. Does FoxNews perhaps want to have screenings for all of our soldiers?

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November 6, 2009 5:19 PM    in reply to charlie8080

Given the heavy armament and sensitive life situations these men and women experience daily, that may not be such a bad idea.

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November 6, 2009 4:52 PM   

Given that it was Brian Kilmeade, of FOX "NEWS", I think the appropriate response to his questions would've been to point out the very high likelihood that anyone, regardless of religion, stationed anywhere with a representative of that august organization would probably be tempted to do that person bodily harm. How the hell are they going to screen for that?

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November 6, 2009 4:59 PM   

I saw an Arab woman, her daughter and grandson yesterday. The two women were dressed in traditional garb. The child, sleeping in his stroller was dressed in CAMOS


Make of it what you will

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November 6, 2009 5:00 PM    in reply to johnmccsf

Does "Fox and Friends" pay guests??????

Christmas is coming and I could use the extra $$$

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November 6, 2009 5:07 PM   

Generally speaking, why is it that if a white guy cuts you off, you call him an "asshole" and are done with it, but when a muslim or other minority cuts you off, people have to make some kind of generalization about "those people"?

This Hassan guy is a total piece of shit and a vicious killer. End of story. His religion or ethnicity matters none. He's just as much of a vicious brutal psychopath as the Holocaust Museum killer, or the Orlando shooter, or the many other massmurderers we seem to have in this country. Incidents of this type have happened on military bases and in Iraq, but since they weren't by a minority, I guess no need to rabblerouse by rightwing bigots..

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November 6, 2009 5:15 PM   

"Cleanup in Kilmeade's Pants"

They must have a special rubber lined chair for Kilmeade, he occasionally soils himself. It's also useful for the flop-sweat.

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November 6, 2009 5:17 PM   

"Because if I'm gonna be deployed in a foxhole, if I'm gonna be sitting in an outpost, I gotta know the guy next to me is not gonna wanna kill me."

Substitute "kill" for "grab my johnson" and this sounds exactly the same as the argument against gays in the military. Will the Foxhole Defense suddenly become a catch all?

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November 6, 2009 5:30 PM    in reply to vincent75

What a bunch of Foxholes.

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November 6, 2009 5:33 PM   

Kilmeade had to apologize for racist comments a few months ago. This is his usual shtick.

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November 7, 2009 3:52 AM   

Obama's shocking response to Fort Hood shooting: http://www.33energy.com/obama-shocking-response-to-fort-hood-shooting.html

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November 7, 2009 9:05 AM   

For a bunch of "true Americans" they sure don't mind pissing on the Constitution to protect the heterosexual, white, Protestants killing in the name of a "free" America.

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November 7, 2009 12:37 PM    in reply to brado80

Uh, the Constitution was written by and for the heterosexual, white, Protestants killing in the name of a "free" America. Duh.

THEY WANT THEIR COUNTRY BACK!

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November 8, 2009 1:29 AM    in reply to Orlando

ROTFLMAO

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November 8, 2009 10:36 PM   

"To understand how Keith Olbermann concocts his ritual character assassinations of people on his enemies list, one must appreciate the modus operandi involved. More often than not, Olby spots an attack in a blue blog, preferably a Fox hating one, lifts it without checking, contorts the content even further to suit his own agenda, and then for a big finish tosses in a healthy dose of name calling, ridicule, and personal attacks."

"This week brought us an egregious example of OlbyCarthyism, one that appears to have had its genesis at one of David Shuster's favorite sources, Talking Points Memo. They excerpted a few sentences from a four hour program: an exchange the Fox & Friends hosts had with Geraldo Rivera regarding the Fort Hood massacre. The article links to, but does not embed, a snippet of video. But even this skimpy documentation was too much information for Olbermann, who attacked all three hosts by [cropping things even further] and just quoting their questions and ignoring the answers. Here he cites Gretchen Carlson:"

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036677/vp/33742514#33742514
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'CARLSON: Could it be that the military was exercising political correctness in not approaching him as seriously as they would have had he not been a Muslim?'
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"Why does this question make Ms Carlson a "worst person" nominee? After all, MSNBC's employee Clift van Zandt [made a similar point] about political correctness, and just today NBC's own David Gregory asked a question that [echoed Carlson's] about the military missing warning signs. Will they be named "worst persons" by Olbermann? There was a lot more that Gretchen Carlson said--not merely the questions she posed (the job of an interviewer) but her own analysis--that Keith Olbermann neatly avoided telling his viewers about. Before asking that verboten question, [she noted]:"

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/33721529/ns/msnbc_tv-hardball_with_chris_matthews/

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33752275/ns/meet_the_press/

http://homepage.mac.com/mkoldys/blog/user_files/pjjr.mp3
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'CARLSON: It puts any Muslim American in a tough situation here because by all accounts most Muslim Americans living here are living here peacefully. I mean, this is the extreme element--potentially--of this religion, and we don't know exactly if the religion was his motivation or not, or if it was the act of war, or that he went nuts. I mean, we don't really know right now.'
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"There's no way Olby is going to let that be heard! Olbermann's distortion of Carlson is pretty bad, but his defamation of Peter Johnson Jr is even worse. Here is the quote as Olby cites it:"
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'JOHNSON: You won’t countenance special screenings for Muslim soldiers, will ya?'
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"Olbermann attacks Johnson for this cropped quote as if Johnson were calling for such screenings. Again, neither Olby nor Talking Points Memo (which frames this statement as Johnson "grilling" Geraldo, as if they were disagreeing) bothers to note anything Johnson said before that interview, which just might shed some light on the situation. Here is [what he said] after a statement from a CAIR spokesman calling for Americans to remain calm because the motives of the attacker are not known:"

http://homepage.mac.com/mkoldys/blog/user_files/pjjr.mp3
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'JOHNSON: Well that's absolutely accurate, and it calls for restraint, and it calls for concern for fellow citizens. And obviously whether an assailant is Christian, or is Muslim, or is Jewish, is irrelevant.'
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"What? How can that be? Olbermann wants you to believe Johnson is some sort of depraved racist! Well Keith did have that one-sentence quote as "proof". But even that one sentence has been falsified--doctored to change its meaning and intent. Here, in context, is [precisely] how the exchange between Peter Johnson and Geraldo Rivera went down. After Brian Kilmeade asked if there should be special screenings for Muslim soldiers, Geraldo disagreed. After Geraldo rambled a bit away from the question, Peter Johnson jumped in:"

http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/entertainment/zontv/2009/11/briane_kilmeade_fox_muslims_in.html
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'JOHNSON: You can't, you won't countenance special screenings for Muslim soldiers, will you?
RIVERA: You know, it's a hard--
JOHNSON: You can't. As a civil libertarian, can you countenance that, Geraldo Rivera?
RIVERA: It's a hard step for me to take, to countenance. This is an American born person.
JOHNSON: Yeah it is!
RIVERA: This is not a naturalized citizen.
JOHNSON: Right!'
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"This is the exact opposite of what Olbermann claimed. Peter Johnson Jr was not supporting "special screenings". He was agreeing with Geraldo Rivera and arguing against them! But that doesn't matter to Olbermann, who slanders him as a "worst person" based on his dishonestly cropped quote. Par for the course on Countdown."

"But wait, there's more. We haven't yet dealt with Olbermann's specialty: over-the-top insults and name-calling. In this instance it was to accuse Fox News of, among other things, racism:"
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'OLBERMANN: Since we’re asking questions, I have one for Carlson, Johnson, and Kilmeade. You guys ever wonder if you all succeeded inside a company like Fox mostly because you’re not Muslim or black or Asian or Hispanic?'
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"We noted above that Olbermann was careful to quote only questions, but not answers. This of course made it easy to strip all context from the discussion, but now we find there was another reason. Because the person the Fox hosts were talking to was Geraldo Rivera. You know, the fellow whose successful Fox News program [beats MSNBC] and [CNN] [weekend] after [weekend]? Now we're not sure, but we think Geraldo is Hispanic. You know, like Julie Banderas. That's the other reason why Olby avoided even mentioning that Geraldo was there. Because if he had, how could he wail that Fox News won't allow Hispanics to succeed? Oh that racist FNC! If only it could be more like MSNBC, where Hispanic anchors are plentiful. Why MSNBC is a [veritable haven] of Muslims, blacks, Asians, and Hispanics."

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/geraldo-riveras-joe-jackson-interview-gives-him-top-sunday-spot/

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/geraldo-wins-demo-huckabee-wins-total-viewers/

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/huckabee-has-most-viewers-saturday-night/

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/geraldo-has-top-prime-time-show-sunday-in-demo/

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