Sen. Orrin Hatch (R-UT) said in an interview with conservative CNSNews.com that the Democrats' plan for health care reform imperils America's two-party system -- apparently because so many people would depend on government programs pushed by Democrats that the Republican Party couldn't retain its supporters.
Describing reform as a "step-by-step approach to socialized medicine," Hatch said:
And if they get there then of course you're going to have a rough time, you're going to have a very rough time, having a two-party system in this country. Because almost everybody's going to say all we ever were, all we ever are, all we ever hope to be depends on the Democratic Party.
Asked whether health care reform was part of a Democratic plan to create an ever-larger group of Americans dependent on the party, Hatch said: "Do I believe they're that diabolical? I don't believe most of 'em are. But I think some of 'em are. I think some of 'em, actually -- maybe diabolical's too hard a word. But the fact is they really, really believe in socialized medicine."
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Walter Mitty
November 2, 2009 2:26 PM
Well if Republicans supported it equally, then it wouldn't be a political issue...
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tosh
November 2, 2009 2:27 PM
What a jackass. Medicare and Medicade were also parts of the Evil Democratic Plots that lead to 8 years of Nixon + Ford, 12 years of RR + Bush Sr. and 8 years of Bush Jr. 28 out of 40 years. Yep, two-party system at risk.
John
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rbeats
November 2, 2009 2:30 PM
You know this statement from the Hatchster confirms Grayson's statements on the House Floor that the Republican plan for health care reform is don't get sick. And if you do get sick, die quickly (just vote for us before you die)
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Mateo123
November 2, 2009 2:31 PM
We really, really believe that health care is a right and not a privilege. Period.
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vueartist
November 2, 2009 2:35 PM
I so sick of these "anti-socialist politicians". What do these people think that the income tax is or the military - they are all social organizations where everybody put their money in for the good of all. the republicans like Hatch are basically anti democratic fascists who want to rule by authority of people like themselves, and ignore such things as elections and the Constitution as well as the will of the vast majority of Americans. If the Republican party fails it is by their own stupidity and the authoritarians like Bush, Chaney and their other failed politicians.
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nerox3
November 2, 2009 2:49 PM
So he is against socialized medicine because it will work and will be poular. That American democracy is threatened because noone can expect the Republicans to alter their ideology when the facts show them they are wrong and therefore everyone will vote for the democrats. Wow that makes too much sense.
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mans_best_friend
November 2, 2009 2:49 PM
Wait...let me see if I've got this straight. If the people punish the R's for opposing policies that the people actually want, it's the Dems fault for being for such policies. And the two-party system would be in much better shape if both parties were against anything that would actually help people.
Leaving aside the absurdity of this, isn't the two-party system actually supposed to encourage a differentiation of ideas?
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Kuyleh
November 2, 2009 2:51 PM
So, can we not have an economy without insurance companies? Everyone bow down to the Men in Suits...Without them we are nothing...
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Seafarer
November 2, 2009 2:53 PM
They're running scared and hapless now that things "most Americans" want are getting airplay on mainstream media nonstop, and the things "most Americans" want are things the Republicans as a group are dead set against.
They can't play their insular little socio-political games anymore, of playing the Deep Southerners and their fears against "Democrats" and the Far West Freedom-types against "Democrats" and the "Pro-Life" crowd against everyone that isn't them. They're now up against something that the vast majority of Americans, in polling, want, need, desire, and crave. They can't cherry pick the one signature issue to get them votes.
The one signature issue they're opposed to is the one that everyone wants. If the Republicans turned around tomorrow, abandoned the insurance industry, and gave us full lifetime single payer or--heaven forbid!--something like Britain's National Health Service, where if you're American you get cradle to grave free service in trade for your taxes--they would pick up 15 seats in the Senate next term.
But they won't, because of pride and ego.
The sun is setting on the Age of Reagan, and good riddance to unAmerican filth.
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CranialRectalLoopback
November 2, 2009 3:05 PM
True. As the GOP adopts the slash and burn wingnut philosophy, their party is in peril, and that will imperil the 2-party system.
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Icon
November 2, 2009 3:22 PM
"...the Republican Party couldn't retain its supporters."
It's don't a pretty piss-poor job of doing it now, regardless of what the Democrats are doing. Even many diehard conservatives have lost faith in the GOP because of the public policy and economic disaster that was the Bush administration.
Hatch is funny. His argument here seems to be, "We can't have health care reform because Americans would like it and we Republicans are knowingly standing on the wrong side of history." If he's willing to concede that this is what the American people want, why isn't he willing to vote for it?
The passage of Medicare didn't kill the GOP. I don't think this bill, on its own, will kill it either.
What might kill the GOP is this bill plus the GOP's anti-moderate witch hunt, extreme unpopularity among moderates and independents, its total opposition to any issues favored by minority groups and generally awful political strategy.
Instead of whining about how the Dems passing HCR will destroy your party, you should instead try to change your party so that it does not imperil you.
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Peter Principle
November 2, 2009 3:25 PM
Hatch is right: Look at what's happened in OTHER countries, like Britain, that really have adopted socialized health care and quickly slipped into becoming one-party . . . um, ok, so Hatch is talking out of his ass.
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Peter Principle
November 2, 2009 3:27 PM
Shorter Hatch: Millions of Americans must suffer and die because it helps keep the Republican Party afloat.
Now THAT'S a winning message.
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Matt Jones
November 2, 2009 3:30 PM in reply to Peter Principle
That would make a great ad campaign, actually... :)
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tiowally
November 2, 2009 3:33 PM
Two-party system threatened? If only we could be so lucky.
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_jonny_5_
November 2, 2009 3:38 PM
"Because almost everybody's going to say all we ever were, all we ever are, all we ever hope to be depends on the Democratic Party."
Many people say this already.
Besides Lincoln, Repubs have only ever given us war, Debt, and tax cuts for the richest of the rich.
Shorter Hatch: "This obstructionism by us,the republicans, may be the straw that broke the camel's back, We're Screwing ourselves and its the Dem's fault"
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bloke1
November 2, 2009 3:43 PM
Hatch is a dipstick, more specifically he should look at the UK with their socialized medicine since 1949, and their two party system:
Churchill
Heath
Thatcher
Major
all conservative priministers at a tiem when the national health service (the ultimate in socialized medicine) was in full force.
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bloke1
November 2, 2009 3:47 PM
I forgot Eden, McMillan and Home
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bloke1
November 2, 2009 3:48 PM
Hatch is a dipstick, more specifically he should look at the UK with their socialized medicine since 1949, and their two party system:
Churchill
Heath
Thatcher
Major
all conservative priministers at a tiem when the national health service (the ultimate in socialized medicine) was in full force.
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dougom
November 2, 2009 4:03 PM
If only it were a step on the way to socialized medicine.
Sen. Hatch needs to get a grip on the fact that the real threat to a two party system is the fact that the loony right has taken over his party. Might want to get rid of that beam in your eye before worrying about possible motes in mine, Senator.
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Andreams
November 2, 2009 4:18 PM
Isn't it amazing that every initiative the Dems have ever had is a threat to everything great about America? I guess Hatch interprets a two party system as a minority that dictates while the majority bows to them.
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Cal Gal
November 2, 2009 4:20 PM
Call me diabolical
Call me awfully liberal
Call me unredeemable too
But I like single payer and
I hate health care profiteers
So I say to you what Cheney said too.
I say to you Hatch, F--k you.
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theone718
November 2, 2009 6:09 PM
Well if you actually WANTED TO FIX WHAT WAS WRONG, maybe you would get more support you Hatchhole.
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sashimi
November 3, 2009 1:04 PM
I thought it was worse than any terror attack or something. There are so many scary reasons not to do anything!!! Perhaps Senator, you should go and put your party in order -just putting together would be enough for now- and come back to talk about whatever BS you want to whine about.
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