When Washington Times Publisher Thomas McDevitt was fired last Sunday, his successor Jonathan Slevin and two security guards escorted him from the Times headquarters to his car and confiscated his cell phone and computer, according to an internal Unification Church memo provided to TPM by multiple church members.
Issued Friday and addressed to "District Directors, State Leaders, all Blessed Central Families and Members," the memo appears to be the first official statement from the church that addresses the turmoil at the Times which has threatened the very future of the newspaper founded by church leader Rev. Sun Myung Moon in the early 1980s and long subsidized by the church's business empire.
The conservative Washington Times is controlled by Preston Moon, son of Rev. Moon and chair of the Times' parent company, News World Communications. TPM has reported that Preston's feud with the rest of his family -- rooted in his displeasure at the way the elderly Rev. Moon divvied up the church and its business empire -- is driving the chaos at the Times.
The departure of the newspaper's executive editor was announced late last week.
The memo was written by Rev. Sun Myung Moon's daughter In Jin (pictured below), head of the US arm of the church, and two other officials and apparently sent to all church members. It is a markedly public shot at Preston. The "type of behavior" displayed in the shakeup at the Times that began a week ago "is unprecedented in our movement," the memo says.

"There is no doubt that Hyun Jin Nim [Preston] deeply loves True Parents, but he may not be receiving the best advice from those who are loyal to him," it says. The "True Parents" are Rev. Moon and his wife, revered above all others in the Unification church (which is officially called the Family Federation for World Peace and Unification).
The memo shows that Preston is still very much at odds with the rest of the Moon family -- potentially bad news for a newspaper that relies on Unification Church subsidies to operate.
The memo also reveals that Nick Chiaia, the president of United Press International (UPI), which is also owned by Times parent company News World Communications, carried out the Sunday firings with new Times publisher Jonathan Slevin. According to the memo, Slevin accompanied McDevitt out on Sunday with the two security guards. Security at the paper was beefed up in the last week, particularly on the third floor where management works.
The memo portrays the family feud as stemming from a lack of loyalty to the "True Parents" -- that is, Rev. Moon and his wife -- rather than a sibling rivalry. It claims that recent press reports (likely a reference to TPM's reporting) of a conflict between Preston and his younger brother Hyung-jin, who Rev. Moon designated this year as primary heir, are false. "The real issue here is unity with True Parents' spiritual leadership," the memo says.
TPM has reported that Preston has not respected his younger brother's authority -- a fact backed up by internal church documents. But we've also noted that Preston is standing alone against the rest of his family. The November 13 memo also appears to confirm our previous reporting that Preston went rogue went he ordered the Times shakeup.
Less clear is the role in the conflict played by In Jin Moon, the Columbia- and Harvard-educated reverend who authored the memo along with two other church officials. On the day of the Washington Times firings, she delivered an allegorical sermon in Manhattan that described an older brother seizing a prized family "garden" against the wishes of his parents and younger brother.
Here's the full memo:
Family Federation for World Peace and Unification North American Headquarters481 8th Avenue, New York, NY 10001
NHQ20091113 No. 28
To: District Directors, State Leaders, all Blessed Central Families and Members
From: Reverend In Jin Moon, Archbishop Ki Hoon Kim, Reverend Joshua Cotter
Re: The Washington Times Incident on Sunday November 8th, 2009
Date: November 13th, 2009
Dear Brothers and Sisters,
May God's abundant blessing and True Parents' love be upon you and your family.
As you may be aware, this past week three executives at the Washington Times, Mr. Dong Moon Joo, Chairman, Mr. Thomas McDevitt, President and Publisher and Mr. Keith Cooperrider, CFO were fired from their jobs. Mr. Jonathan Slevin (Vice-President at Newsworld Communications) and Mr. Nick Chiaia carried out these actions. On Sunday, November 8, Tom McDevitt was escorted from his office at the Washington Times building to his car by Mr. Slevin, together with two security guards. His cell phone and computer were confiscated.
This type of behavior is unprecedented in our movement. It must be made clear that what took place at the Washington Times is contrary to the advice and guidance from our True Father.
True Parents are heartbroken and dismayed over what has happened, especially in light of the fact that they have been guiding our movement worldwide, over the last several months, specifically to remain united with their spiritual leadership.
Some recent press articles this past week have incorrectly tried to characterize the situation around the Washington Times takeover as a 'feud between two brothers' (specifically between Hyun Jin Nim and Hyung Jin Nim). These statements are perhaps purposefully misleading. The real issue here is unity with True Parents' spiritual leadership.
Each one of True Parents' children and the members of their family who are serving in some public role in our worldwide movement are standing in complete unity with True Parents. This includes Hyung Jin Nim (International President), Kook Jin Nim (President of the Korea Foundation), In Jin Nim (President of the American Church), Sun Jin Nim (Seilo Travel), Yeon Ah Nim (Sun Moon University) and Hoon Sook Nim (Universal Ballet Company).
There is no doubt that Hyun Jin Nim deeply loves True Parents, but he may not be receiving the best advice from those who are loyal to him. In Korea, during recent HDH's, Father is urgently and repeatedly stating that, during this critical time, it is important to remain vigilant in our unity with our True Parents.
Thank you and may God bless you.Reverend In Jin Moon Reverend Ki Hoon Kim
President and CEO, HSA, FFWPU -- USA Continental Director -- North America

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barrelhse
November 14, 2009 10:02 PM
They're not crazy, they're rich. It's the people who send them money that are crazy.
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JohnGorenfeld
November 15, 2009 9:01 PM in reply to barrelhse
I'll be posting more on my blog, but here's an excerpt from my book about previous editor meltdowns at the Washington Times--including the stormy 1984 exit of the original editor, who said he had "blood on my hands" for taking part in the enterprise.
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JNagarya
November 16, 2009 1:39 AM in reply to barrelhse
How is it that one can attend, and be graduated by, two prestigious universities, yet not come out of that with awakened and active critical faculties?
Or is it the CASH that sustains the "belief" in the authoritarianism of the parents?
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Leftflank
November 14, 2009 11:09 PM
This is who the Washington Times is? There's so many Ins that I can't tell who's out.
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jeffbinnc
November 14, 2009 11:20 PM
Who gives a s**t. What happens to the WT is totally about Versailles culture. I mean, does anyone outside of the Beltway really care?
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shortpants
November 15, 2009 12:37 AM in reply to jeffbinnc
The people who work at The Times do.
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Overreach THIS!
November 15, 2009 3:43 AM in reply to shortpants
This may seem a bit heartless, but you can't work for this crazy propaganda sheet, for these loonie gardeners who raised money by having zombies beg money for god, and tell yourself and your friends it's journalism and like any other job.
You gonna reap just what you sow
That ole saying is true.
-Farther up the Road, Joe Medwick Veasey & Don D. Robey, reprised by Clapton et al.
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larue
November 15, 2009 5:22 AM in reply to jeffbinnc
Jeff, spot on, I'm with you.
Who cares and WTF?
Anyone who is a PART of this enterprise must have known going in they were working for loons, so I have NO empathy for the employees. Not to mention print journalism is dead.
As to any serious ramifications or influences Moon or the WashBagCrap he owns and publishes have on MY reality, they are none.
Who the hell reads this crap or follows this shit?
Only the loons and Moonies.
And like the GOP, Palin, and Xtian's, they are only 23% and less.
And they marginalize themselves further and further and more and more, on a daily basis.
I'm not sure about TPM, and whether Josh should have covered this.
No one else is, it seems.
My base feel is this is tabloid journalism. The story, AND TPM's coverage of it.
Who cares?
So, my end of story is, TPM, what a waste of time staff and money, other than what should have been a short story condemning it all, cuz for phreakin sakes, it's DA MOONIES!!!!
What a waste of time. Pure DC beltway intrigue, and relevant to the rest of we the people, in NO way at all.
None. Pure insider shit, that's just not worthy of Josh's time, staff and money,
Mr. Marshall, you used to do better.
This is a great fall from your ideals as a progressive and liberal point of view.
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Oygevalt
November 15, 2009 7:19 AM in reply to larue
Larue - this is silly. The only person wasting your time is you. Who's forcing you to read this coverage? And surely no one's asking to spend time writing long comments about it.
TWT is an important paper, great and good people have and are working there. What is happening there IS important and unfortunate.
Since TPM took the lead in capturing the true story it is only natural that they'd fall into the temptation of over reporting on with it. (Like the squeaky little turd Gorenfeld did on the crown thing).
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JEP07
November 15, 2009 9:47 AM in reply to Oygevalt
Do we have an infestation of Moonie trolls working the blog? Why are so many newbies posting "who cares" comments here? If you can't see the imoprt of this story, you are blind.
COnsidering the Moonies bought UPI in 2000, it should raise red flags galore.
But I think Mepmep got it spot-on above with this comment; "you guys might consider looking for a ramp or spike in your sign-up registration numbers, followed by a sudden increase in push-back in the comments from newbies."
And these will be subtle trolls, they won't come here demanding retractions, they will join us as concern trolls who consider this a non-story, suggesting TPM might make better use of it's digits.
I'm just sayin'...
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JEP07
November 15, 2009 10:12 AM in reply to JEP07
Jeff and Larue; wehatr stories SHOULD TPM be covering, then? Can you offer any suggestions, rather than just complaining?
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JNagarya
November 16, 2009 1:44 AM in reply to Oygevalt
"TWT is an important paper".
No, it is not. And it never has been.
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kernel
November 16, 2009 7:07 PM in reply to larue
I think it's mildly interesting to see this all unfold, and I won't be unhappy if even one conservative outlet bites the dust. That is, except for the folks who work there, and will have a hell of a time getting a real journalism job anywhere. About the moonies, I don't give a rat's a$$.
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Verified
November 15, 2009 3:46 PM in reply to jeffbinnc
Yes, we all should care, because the Washington Times is regularly cited as a "balance" to progressive media. Most of the every day people who indirectly hear third-hand craziness and reactionary opinion from this publication have no idea it is owned and influenced by the Moonie cult whose leader claims to be the Messiah.
Try it out. Ask 10 or 20 people tomorrow at work or at lunch - pick people who are not political junkies like us - if they 1) ever heard of the Washington Times, and 2) if those who have heard of it know who owns and influences its editorial policy. For those who don't know of it, ask them if they know of Tony Snow or Tony Blankley or that Ronald Reagan was a regular reader of the Messiah's paper.
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Josh Marshall
November 14, 2009 11:39 PM
The "versailles culture"? heady jargon. Who controls major press outfits in the nation's capitol is actually a pretty consequential matter. there's a weird hostility and condescension in that remark. maybe some people are interested in things you're not.
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Richardxx
November 15, 2009 12:58 AM in reply to Josh Marshall
Versailles was France's capital during the period referenced by the remark. The Washington "villagers" appear to be similarly isolated from the larger nation, and the Washington Times is a significant element in that isolation.
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Richardxx
November 15, 2009 1:03 AM in reply to Richardxx
I'm not arguing that what happens to the WT is unimportant, of course. Just that it is part of a strange and mostly localized political culture.
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Josh Marshall
November 15, 2009 7:50 AM in reply to Richardxx
believe me, i got the reference. i just found it a little grandiose. or inversely grandiose.
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JEP07
November 15, 2009 9:49 AM in reply to Josh Marshall
But we can still apply the "off with their heads" approach to these "let them eat cakers" can't we?
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JEP07
November 15, 2009 10:20 AM in reply to JEP07
Richardxx
"mostly localized political culture."
Problem is, that local culture is made up of our locally elected lawmakers. The "trickle-down" effect is real here, what our lawmakers read and hear and see on a daily basis determines what happens across the country in so many ways.
WHICH IS WHY I STILL SAY, BRING EM' HOME!
We have the technology to create a Virtual Congress, and let our reps represent us from the confines of their own constituency, where they are more likely to read their local publications than they are to read a politically motivated cult-owned publication.
It will make the corporate and special-interest lobbyist's job that much harder.
But no doubt, no matter where our lawmakers dwell, the sharks will be swinning around them.
How's that bible verse go "Wherever the caucus is, there will the vultures be gathered together?"
Or something like that...
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"Ruthless Pragmatism" Sucks
November 15, 2009 1:55 PM in reply to JEP07
Anything TPM can do to expose the Loonification Church the better. I have conservative friends that quote the WashTimes a lot, and I simply bash them with TPM's reporting on the Moon Family's insanity. Game, Set, Match = The liberal wins the argument.
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unknowncitizen
November 15, 2009 8:28 PM in reply to Richardxx
Yeah, it's the capital of France. Knew that. Please go on with your explanation of the comment: "Who gives a s**t. What happens to the WT is totally about Versailles culture. I mean, does anyone outside of the Beltway really care?" What does "the period referenced by the remark" mean? The remark with "versailles culture" in it references no period and was made by a different commenter. wtf?
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Overreach THIS!
November 15, 2009 3:52 AM in reply to Josh Marshall
Who controls the loss-making propaganda venue are the bizarre-o people who opened it in the first place as a gigantic influence scheme and who own it since. Dare I hope that we will now be unburdened of the shameful anachronism.
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Joe Buck
November 14, 2009 11:52 PM
The right doesn't need the Washington Times any more, since they've taken over the much more respectable Post and filled its editorial staff with right-wingers. I don't expect the Times to be mourned if it closes.
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Duck Stab
November 14, 2009 11:56 PM
I remember reading a full page ad taken out in the WashPost years ago from the good Rev.
It was a about marriage and genitals.
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mepmep09
November 15, 2009 12:00 AM
jeffbinnc may well be sincere in his criticism upthread - that general attitude about the DC Beltway is fairly prevalent in the blogs, on both left and right.
But to the extent TPM stays on this story, you guys might consider looking for a ramp or spike in your sign-up registration numbers, followed by a sudden increase in push-back in the comments from newbies.
I'm no expert on the Moonies (I'll leave that commentary to John Gorenfeld), but while I don't think they are nearly as nasty as the Xenu/Thetan bunch in dealing with their opposition, they do have plenty of willing minions to aid in some heavy story spinning, if they so choose.
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mepmep09
November 15, 2009 3:32 AM in reply to mepmep09
Just to clarify my stance, I think it is entirely appropriate that TPM is covering this story - see the links below for further information on the relationship between "Dear Father" and major national political leaders - mostly (but not exclusively) Republican. Going through the slide show referenced below, I just learned that Moon even met Eisenhower way back when, further demonstrating that Moon has been steadily worming his way into the power centers of Washington for a very long time.
John Gorenfeld's Website with thumbnail sketch of Moon and his church, including a pretty good slide show.
[continued on next comment, to avoid post being eaten (I've learned the hard way that each comment will only safely take two links at most; I've had comments with three comments - or more - vanish into the ether.]
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mepmep09
November 15, 2009 3:34 AM in reply to mepmep09
Final two links (continued from above)
Part 1 (22:16) of Lizz Winstead interview of Gorenfeld on his reporting on Moon and the Unification church*
Part 2 (22:40) of Winstead's interview of Gorenfeld*
*NOTE: Raw Language.
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Oygevalt
November 15, 2009 7:56 AM in reply to mepmep09
Actually no Mep. The moonies are (and always have been) completely disorganized. You'll get a vocal one now and then, but look the entire TPM story comes directly from moonies feeding up their own dirt.
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mepmep09
November 15, 2009 7:49 PM in reply to Oygevalt
Yeah, you're probably right, now that I think about it more. The only times I can recall large masses of Moonies in one place are those en masse weddings officiated over by Dear Leader. Action as individuals and in very small groups is more their style.
Like some of the others here, at this point I'd like to see how the money flows to and from this successful cult leader. In light of the newspaper's problems, Moon and his crew might become desperate to maintain their pull with the U.S. power brokers they support.
Even a rehash of what is already known might draw some more attention now, in light of the WashTimes implosion. And I have a feeling that some of those who think this is just an inside-the-Beltway story might think otherwise when they see the grassroots sources of some of Moon's funding.
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nova voter
November 15, 2009 12:21 AM
well that's not totally fucking nuts at all.
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nowhereman
November 15, 2009 1:26 AM
I think there's a lot of us who read TPM who are ourselves a bit on the inside of the virtual beltway too much. I mean, here I am in the Colorado mountains and I'm guessing the folks around here just really have no way of thinking about the WT meltdown. It's just too far outside of their reality. I dare anyone to explain to the average conservative that one of the leading conservative newspapers has been owned by a South Korean religious nut job and now, there is internecine even fratricidal war over the paper's future. I mean, it's just something they will ignore. But as Josh says, within it's own consequential world, the nose-dive of the WT means something.
Were a "liberal, msm" newspaper of consequence owned by a foreign, religious nutjob, the wingers would have long since devoured the printed meal. Hey, Gibbs, it's time to lay some snark upon the Times and its Republican enablers.
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JohnGorenfeld
November 15, 2009 11:55 AM in reply to nowhereman
Exactly.
Can you imagine what Sean Hannity would make of it if The Nation were owned by a billionaire cult leader whom evening news reports used to warn mothers about? (Not to mention Moon's starring role in Rep. Donald Fraser's 1978 Koreagate influence-peddling probe, the Congressional report on which is incredibly creepy.)
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Kinkistyle
November 15, 2009 1:35 AM
I personally think its fascinating. The whole idea that a major newspaper and new organization is owned and operated by a loony cult is just mind-boggling.
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808stater
November 15, 2009 3:58 AM in reply to Kinkistyle
Too bad it's not the only one.
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JEP07
November 15, 2009 10:09 AM in reply to Kinkistyle
"The whole idea that a major newspaper and new organization is owned and operated by a loony cult is just mind-boggling."
Inside OR outside the beltway, there should be more boggled minds about this. Everyone who takes a little time to look into it more deeply (hopefully some of our references will help them understand) should have a similar reaction.
Sheer, incredulous amazement, (would that be "boggled?" I think so...) with a touch of vigilant, good-old All-American suspicious paranoia towards anyone who wants to manage our thoughts and our lawmakers..
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JohnGorenfeld
November 15, 2009 11:46 AM in reply to JEP07
Yeah, let me tell you: Beltway folks may be jaded enough to yawn at the fact that a cult leader formerly mentioned in the same breath as Jim Jones is publishing the Washington Times; raving about ending Christianity; and arranging for bipartisan dinner parties where he claims to be the Messiah.
But most other people I have talked to find Moon's ownership of the Times amazing. It's a living political cartoon of hypocrisy that ought to be at least as well known as the supposed evils of ACORN and George Soros.
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Dabb
November 15, 2009 7:33 AM
Sounds like another "Palin" story to me. "True Parents"... "prized family 'garden'" ... give me a break. The economy is the pits, too many people are unemployed and there are 2 wars going on. It's 2009. Grow up Moons!!!
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druidity
November 15, 2009 8:01 AM
The real surprise to me in this article is that Moonies own UPI. I couldn't care less about WT, i never read it and everyone knows where they lean. But a lot of local and National papers carry the UPI stories. Makes me wonder who owns the AP?
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JohnGorenfeld
November 15, 2009 12:02 PM in reply to druidity
Well, don't get too worried about the UPI. It was in poor shape when the church bought it in 2000, and now it's been reduced to about one office floor in D.C.
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Buckley
November 15, 2009 9:27 AM
My knee-jerk reaction for years whenever I read a reference to the WT was exactly the same as when I came across something attributed to Scientology.
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dweb823
November 15, 2009 9:42 AM
My sense is that we ignore these "loons" at our own peril. Yes the whole concept of the "Unification Church" belies belief, but Moon is hardly the first messianic personality to rake in millions from vast swaths of people looking desperately for someone to tell them the secrets of life and death.
What is worth paying attention to is that Moon and his family have, until now, used that vast wealth to buy influence worldwide, including DC, up to an including having Moon "crowned" in ceremonies attended by members of Congress. Moon money also has supported a wealth of wingnut causes.
It would be wonderful if the whole enterprise collapsed in financial meltdown and they all went away, but the Moons didn't get here by being dumb and a wounded rabid animal is still something very dangerous.....especially when it retains influence in place like DC
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JEP07
November 15, 2009 9:55 AM in reply to dweb823
And more especially, when that influence includes an era of gratuities and contributions the likes of which we can not even imagine.
More than one US lawmaker has taken the bait, and now they are on the stringer for the Moonies, and/or for assorted other cults that have inhabited DC to use their big money to buy influence.
No doubt, there;s more than one lawmaker who has taken money from every cult they could lure in. Problem is, it was the fly luring the spider.
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gmknobl
November 15, 2009 10:06 AM
We can't ignore these cultists; we must work to cut their money supply, educate them and then use facts to denounce them and make them look ridiculous.
Really, this is good news since this type of fractionalization within the moonies will water down their influence and their system. These rip-off artists deserve every bad thing that happens to their corrupt system. No different than Scientology, really, or any other cult.
I think you can judge the worth of these groups by a simple, if morbid thought experiment. How many of the followers of X would kill themselves if ordered/asked to do so? The higher the number, the more likely it is a cult. I bet an alarmingly high number of moonies would do this if the Rev. S. Moon asked them. You could disguise the command by asking them to jump off a cliff without a parachute but guarantee them they'd live, anything illogical like that. Few if any liberal Christians / Muslims / Jews would. Nasty proving this though as you have to send out a survey. The answers might be surprising, even to me but would be very illuminating.
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Oygevalt
November 15, 2009 11:23 AM in reply to gmknobl
Another crank remark. There's no end to people with no knowledge passing off goofy hysteria. The moonies like everything can be researched. Either that, or of course people can just make up crazy shit out of their head, like this nutty comment about a suicide survey.
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Joe
November 15, 2009 1:36 PM
Those who worship Ayn Rand deserve to get their butts whacked by the Invisible Hand!
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warbaby
November 15, 2009 2:06 PM
There's no need to make stuff up when reality is strange enough.
http://www.consortiumnews.com/archive/moon.html
For some deep background on Japan/Moon:
http://www.jpri.org/publications/workingpapers/wp83.html
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kfdan
November 15, 2009 6:10 PM
Moon, like Ron L. Hubbard, realized you could amass a great deal of money and power through religion. Both characters set up organizations that push their personal views and organizational interests. Newspapers, magazines, TV stations etc. are all useful tools in the hands of people like this. Is it any different when corporations who own news outlets use their influence to get what they want? We all know the answer to that question via the corporate bail-outs. In cultures where the news has been suppressed traditionally ... word of mouth has gotten real information out. For this system to work the majority of people of that culture have to understand that official news is a lie! In America, at this point in time ... we have the net and our own ability to filter fiction from truth. Moon and his group are just another special interest group and what they want ... they get. Welcome to the greatest Banana Republic in the world.
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SkeeterVT
November 15, 2009 6:55 PM
Those who argue that "nobody gives a (bleeep) about this "Moonie paper" are ignoring three important facts:
1) Conservatives take The Washington Times VERY seriously -- So seriously, in fact, that they're openly fearful for the paper's survival in the wake of its current turmoil. Coming at the same time as Lou Dobbs' abrupt departure from CNN and the explosive lawsuit filed against Rupert Murdoch's New York Post, this has not been a good week for conservative media.
2) The Washington Times' influence is far greater than its circulation numbers. Its print edition has a circulation of less than 70,000 daily and less than 45,000 on Sunday -- but it has a HUGE impact on the Washington, D.C. media scene, particularly in the 18 months since John Solomon took over as executive editor. No one knows how the current turmoil at the Times will ultimately play out, but this much is certain: Solomon's resignation raises a host of questions of where the Times is heading editorially and journalistically -- if it survives at all.
3) Whatever you might think of the Times' ownership or political leanings, there's no denying that Rev. Moon -- whom I'm sure as hell no fan of -- prevented the nation's capital from remaining a one-newspaper town when he launched the Times nine months after The Washington Star folded in 1981. As one who olives in a one-newspaper town, I've always had a problem with monopolies.
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mepmep09
November 15, 2009 8:11 PM in reply to SkeeterVT
I have some anecdotal evidence that you are not alone on point #3. I live just outside of DC, and work in the city (not in the "good part" of town). At work I notice that more WashTimes than WaPo's seem to be left laying around in our cafeteria, in men's restrooms, and other places where our maintenance and security folks tend to frequent. Some of this might be due to the fact that WashTimes hasn't always been that bad on local coverage, including sports and arts & leisure - as long as the paper's management hired decent reporters and editors, then left them alone to practice their profession. Like bad secular mangement, Moonie management types can't seem to keep their micromanaging hands off the talent, unfortunately.
WaPo has a blemished record when it comes to reporting on what was once called* the "Secret City" or "Chocolate City" (*at least prior to the start of the massive and ongoing gentrification within the city).
In WaPo's past, they have been frequently dismissive, and occasionally insulting, to the majority African-American community around here. So some of the support for WashTimes might be an "any-paper-but-WaPo" rejectionist attitude on the part of working class folk in the city.
Again, my commentary is just anecdotal and somewhat speculative. But an alternative paper is appreciated - to the extent any newspaper is appreciated anymore - even if the paper is owned by a foreign cult leader.
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Tony
November 16, 2009 1:03 AM in reply to mepmep09
Well, being a "Moonie" and African-American, I find most of what I have read on here very funny. You sound like a bunch of European-Americans who know everything about African-American and have never met one. And don't tell me you learned everything from news reports and therefore you do not have to look any further. Look at the "news reports" on Jesus and what they said about King when he first started. Just remember this: an organization is an assembly of individuals. There are no monoliths.
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mepmep09
November 16, 2009 2:37 AM in reply to Tony
I think I'm the only one in comments who mentioned African-Americans, so your comment probably applies to me specifically, rather than the other folks here.
My comment on DC-area African-Americans was in regard to the relationship of DC's two major newspapers to my community, and was decoupled from any discussion of the Unification Church's relationship to the African-American community here or elsewhere in the country. I know nothing on the latter topic, and in any event it doesn't seem very relevant to this post (which, to remind you, is the crisis at the still-influential Washington Times, and the relationship of that crisis to the powerful, wealthy, and well-connected leaders of your church).
However, I'll bite: if you are comparing King and Moon - and specifically, the nature of the opposition to the two, and the comparative evidence concerning actual crimes committed, large sums of cash passed around, and influence peddled among major Washington power brokers - then by all means make your case. A separate diary would probably be more suitable for that, rather than continuing this discussion here (you could link to such a diary in this thread, of course; in fact, that would be advisable). We may have different notions of what constitutes acceptable evidence, facts, and/or knowledge, so that may pose a challenge in such a discussion. (Video evidence is pretty solid in my book, for example, but may not be acceptable to others.)
I'll end by noting that I have serious concerns about excessive religious influence in our government's policy at all levels, regardless of which church is engaged in it. If, say, the topic were the recent Stupak amendment to the evolving health care bill, I would have negative things to say about the Roman Catholic church's influence in those deliberations as well. In this regard, IMO the Unification Church does not pose nearly the threat as do the leaders of other organized and more "accepted" religious organizations.
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Tony
November 17, 2009 12:21 AM in reply to mepmep09
The point I was making is that many people think they know everything about Unificationist (Moonies) without ever meeting one or even speaking to one. That is like a European-American saying he/she knows everything about African-Americans without ever meeting one or speaking to one.
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ConservativeGuy
November 16, 2009 5:50 AM
Boy, lots of fear out there. It is amazing how fear contaminates logic. What is everyone so afraid of?
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