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Sen. Ben Nelson (D-NE) hinted strongly today that he'll vote with Democrats to allow health care reform to go forward and be debated on the Senate floor.

Nelson is under pressure from both the left and the right on health care reform -- and is one of a few key hold outs in the Democratic caucus.

Nelson emphasized that he hasn't made up his mind yet on how he'll vote, saying that, "As I've said many times before I won't decide how I'll vote on the motion to proceed until I know what I'm voting on."

However, Nelson also underlined that this motion is merely "to start debate on a bill and to try to improve it" -- not a final vote to pass it.

"If you don't like the bill, then why would you block your own opportunity to amend it?" Nelson said. "Why would you stop senators from doing the job they're elected to do -- debate, consider amendments, and take action on an issue affecting every American?"

Here's the full statement.

Once Senator Reid releases his merged health care bill and the Congressional Budget Office fiscal analysis I and my colleagues will need adequate time--over several days--to review both. Later this week, the Senate is expected to vote on a motion to proceed, which needs 60 votes to pass. As I've said many times before I won't decide how I'll vote on the motion to proceed until I know what I'm voting on.

But I would like to explain what that vote means because there's been a lot of commentary in the media, by special interest groups and in Congress offering definitions.

Some who define it as a vote in favor of the Reid bill are misinformed, or are intentionally trying to mislead people. I remember that some in my party said the same thing--equating this procedural vote with a vote for a bill--when the Republicans were in charge. If your goal is to obstruct, that's a convenient argument.

But it didn't stop me from reaching across the aisle and working with a Republican majority and a Republican president for bipartisan improvements to legislation.

Some who define it as supporting or opposing President Obama and his agenda do so because they either want him to succeed or fail. And some who define it as the last chance to stop bad legislation have a political agenda: They want to kill any health care bill Congress considers this year for leverage in next year's congressional elections.

That's more of the old Washington political gamesmanship people are fed up with. It's not about working together on a bipartisan basis for the good of the American people. It's not about taking time to get the right health care bill.

In reality, the meaning of the motion to proceed is very simple:

It's a motion to commence debate and an opportunity to make changes.

Let me say it again: it is a motion to start debate on a bill and to try to improve it.

If you don't like the bill, then why would you block your own opportunity to amend it? Why would you stop senators from doing the job they're elected to do--debate, consider amendments, and take action on an issue affecting every American?

But before I say yes or no on that motion to proceed, I believe Nebraskans want me to have adequate time to read the bill and to study its costs. That's just common sense.

To do otherwise would be like deciding before the opening kickoff of a football game to punt on first down. Once I have the ball--or the bill--and can assess the situation, I'll be ready to call a play.

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November 18, 2009 4:03 PM   

If you don't like the bill, then why would you block your own opportunity to amend it? Why would you stop senators from doing the job they're elected to do--debate, consider amendments, and take action on an issue affecting every American?

Ask the GOP. They're going to fight this thing all the way till 2010.

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November 18, 2009 5:19 PM    in reply to Mateo123

So now Democrats have to announce that they will be voting with Democrats.

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November 18, 2009 4:04 PM   

I can't believe we are still debating this shit.

The corporate interests are winning this battle, and the game that is being played now is a disgusting, horrifying glimpse, into the utter failure of our Democracy.

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November 18, 2009 4:17 PM    in reply to rbeats

The sausage factory of ever so incremental progress

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November 18, 2009 4:06 PM   

This falls into the "No News" catagory. Certainly doesnt mean that no news is good news!

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November 18, 2009 4:14 PM   

Reid's ready

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November 18, 2009 8:41 PM    in reply to johnmccsf

It is pretty much a general rule that if you have Obama's picture as your avatar that you are a pathetic sycophantic Obamabot.

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November 19, 2009 10:55 AM    in reply to masanf

And it's pretty much a general rule that if you post, as you did this:

wishing that someone gets cancer because you disagree with their politics makes you a pathetic piece of shi* scumbag.

as a blog comment and then in the same blog post this:

Hey guess what? I hope members of your family get cancer. How do you like that, scumbag?

what does this exactly make you?

Oh, yeah, a pathetic troll.

Gpo away, you have nothing substantive to add to the conversation.

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November 18, 2009 4:15 PM   

"If you don't like the bill, then why would you block your own opportunity to amend it?"

"But before I say yes or no on that motion to proceed, I believe Nebraskans want me to have adequate time to read the bill and to study its costs."

So he will vote to proceed even if he doesn't like the bill, but he won't vote to proceed because he might not like it?

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November 18, 2009 4:18 PM   

The fact that bringing this to the floor is somewhat difficult tells you just how whacked out our political system is.

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November 18, 2009 4:22 PM   

This is A problem but this is not THE problem. If it's this hard to bring the bill to the floor, how difficult is it going to be to close debate, especially if there's not enough of a change during amendments. Amendments will change this bill drastically, watch.

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November 18, 2009 4:22 PM    in reply to calchala

Further those changes will be unpredictable and let's be honest. It will kill the bill.

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November 18, 2009 4:26 PM   

The richest 1%, the corporate crooks and the lifetime incumbents in the Capitol sure do talk pretty, don't they?

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November 18, 2009 4:27 PM   

I'm glad Nelson is still hinting but the one to worry about is Lieberman.

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November 18, 2009 4:44 PM    in reply to Andreams

No he's proceeding to debate. This doesn't deal with cloture. We have no idea where they stand on that.

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November 18, 2009 4:46 PM    in reply to calchala

Lieberman has already indicated he would filibuster anything with a public option.

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November 18, 2009 4:55 PM    in reply to Mateo123

Lieberman makes Nelson look like jolly ol' Saint Nick.

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November 18, 2009 4:30 PM   

Aw, ain't that nice. He's so fricken gracious.

Question: Has Ben Nelson ever publicly criticized or opposed Republican proposals? Certainly nowhere near the level of opposition he mounts to Democratic initiatives.

Ben Nelson, self-loathing Democrat.

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November 18, 2009 4:54 PM   

What do they say about the making of legislation...

I swear, by year's end, we'll all be a bit nuts over this.

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November 18, 2009 4:55 PM   

I assume the somewhat frightening hair helmet sitting atop his head is a toupee?

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November 18, 2009 5:29 PM   

frankly, i do not see why nelson, lincoln, landieu, and baucus are having such a hard time placing a vote if they are thinking of their constituents. they must have pollsters who have the info available as to how they fell about hcr. vote the way your district wants you to.

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November 18, 2009 8:50 PM    in reply to neesy08

Oh, you mean polls like the one discussed in this piece:
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/ezra-klein/2009/11/the_public_option_imitates_the.html

Or maybe you mean these polls:
http://www.pollster.com/polls/us/healthplan.php

And it is amazing that anyone can put forth the notion that states which voted for McCain by 20% or more want this health care bill. They are thinking of their constituents. That is why have stated they won't support cloture on a bill that has a public option.

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November 19, 2009 10:24 AM    in reply to neesy08

Yes, they could vote to please their constituents, but that would anger their corporate masters.

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