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'President Or Jihad?' Billboard Replaces Birther Sign In CO
Rachel Slajda | November 20, 2009, 4:35PM
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A billboard on a car lot in Wheat Ridge, Colo., is displaying a somewhat cryptic message: "President Or Jihad?"
The billboard, which shows a cartoon President Obama in a turban, also says, "PROVE IT! Wake up America! Remember Ft. Hood!"
The message replaces one that read, "Where's the birth certificate?," which was supported by radio host Peter Boyle and right-wing site World Net Daily. The owner of the lot, Phil Wolf, donated the space.
Reached by TPM, Wolf Interstate Leasing & Sales general manager Wayne Means said the billboard is "self explanatory."
"It doesn't really matter who's running the country, Democrat or Republican, they're not running it right anyway," Means said. "God Bless Mr. Obama, he's probably a nice guy. [But] his strings are being pulled."
He wouldn't say whether the billboard suggests that Obama is responsible for Fort Hood. When asked about it, he said, "I understand, believe me," and said his grandfather had been in Auschwitz.
He said the dealership put the billboard up itself and was not paid to do so.
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RuperttheBear
November 20, 2009 5:27 PM
I'm starting to think the right to vote and own property should be conditioned on demonstrated intelligence and mental stability.
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JNagarya
November 22, 2009 10:40 AM in reply to RuperttheBear
"It doesn't really matter who's running the country, Democrat or Republican, they're not running it right anyway," Means said. "God Bless Mr. Obama, he's probably a nice guy. [But] his strings are being pulled."
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The usual far-right lunatic fringe "hidden hand" paranoid conspirabunk which surrenders control to that delusion.
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grollen
November 20, 2009 5:34 PM
The dealership must have some pretty strong political views ... perhaps it was a person in the dealership?
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barrelhse
November 20, 2009 5:38 PM
Some people need a billboard to proclaim their ignorance. Anything smaller would fail to do justice to the scope of this fool's lack of intelligence.
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JNagarya
November 22, 2009 10:41 AM in reply to barrelhse
Be thankful that We the people in that area aren't subjected to a huge photo of Oily Tits.
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fitley
November 22, 2009 3:41 PM in reply to barrelhse
Is someone were just quietly ,calmly muttering these crazy thoughts people would just think they're holding a conversation witth the voices in their head.
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Icon
November 20, 2009 5:45 PM
Apparently whoever put up the birth certificate billboard hasn't learned to use the Interwebs yet. He should call Ted Stevens for some lessons.
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NuttyProf
November 20, 2009 6:43 PM
next thing the pigs will be eating at the table!
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ilovebacon
November 20, 2009 7:05 PM
If I were in CO, I'd "take care" of that sign.
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ShawninMo
November 21, 2009 9:31 AM in reply to ilovebacon
And infringe on someones first amendment right to ask a question? I guess people are only supposed to ask questions other people aprove of.
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jenesq
November 21, 2009 11:27 AM in reply to ShawninMo
Just so you know, a private individual cannot infringe on anyone's First Amendment rights. The First Amendment only protects free speech against infringement by the government. Now, it's true that defacing the sign would be punishable as vandalism, but that has nothing to do with the First Amendment. Calling the signmaker a total idiot and deservedly mocking his stupidity is absolutely permissible and in no way interferes with the sign maker's First Amendment right to be a douchebag.
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ShawninMo
November 21, 2009 11:45 AM in reply to jenesq
ilovebacons' statement that they would "take care" of the sign implies that they do not wish the sign poster to be able to freely voice their opinion. Therefor shutting them down.
My point being that the supposed party of "free speech" doesn't seem to have a problem with keeping those with opposing viewpoints from voicing them.
Maybe ilovebacon should have said "If I was in CO, I would have put up a sign to set them strait".
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fcleff
November 21, 2009 12:14 PM in reply to ShawninMo
Back when Kerry ran for President I had a "John Kerry - 2004" bumper sticker on my car. After the election the sticker was still on my car. One night I was working a catering gig (I'm a chef). As I was leaving and had loaded up the last of my equipment in my car I noticed that the bumper sticker had been scraped off (damaging the paint) and that the vandal had put a "Support Our Troops" ribbon magnet on my car. Needless to say, I was pissed.
So, ShawninMo, it would seem that your argument runs on a two-way street. Bear in mind, also, that I was not portraying Bush as a jihadist, racist, nigger, or anything negative. I was just expressing my support for my preferred candidate. Yet, some republican decides to "take care of" my car.
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ShawninMo
November 21, 2009 12:39 PM in reply to fcleff
My whole problem with this site, and many who post here, is that everything you guys spout about republicans can also be said about democrats. You have your 15% nutjob section on the edges of each side and 70% somewhat normal people in between.
Your nutjobs are just as dangerous and as stupid as the other sides nutjobs.
I have two Obama/Biden stickers on my truck.
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ohyeathatsright
November 21, 2009 1:54 PM in reply to ShawninMo
I beg to differ; !0% nut-job far-left, 40% sane, 10% nut-job center-right, and 40% nut-job far-right.
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ShawninMo
November 21, 2009 2:21 PM in reply to ohyeathatsright
Don't beg, it's not becoming of you.
I guess it's all relative, which is why we will probably not get a uniter in the white house for many years.
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JNagarya
November 22, 2009 10:48 AM in reply to ShawninMo
We don't need a uniter in the White House. We the people, as individuals, have to learn both to reason, and to cease lying for advantage.
Is that too individually responsible for you?
Does it insufficiently blame gum'mint for the consequences of We the peoples' irresponsibilities and laziness?
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ohyeathatsright
November 23, 2009 6:53 PM in reply to ShawninMo
Because snide remarks are definitely the way to win over those who disagree with you.
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fcleff
November 21, 2009 4:45 PM in reply to ShawninMo
Then what are you doing hanging out here?
Now, I wasn't accusing you of anything. I was just making a point that what you said goes down both ways. I just feel that the republicans tend to be a little (understatement?) more aggressive in their actions than the liberals.
Love the Aces High avatar, by they way.
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ShawninMo
November 21, 2009 7:56 PM in reply to fcleff
It's not always fun, nor informative, talking to people that you almost always agree with.
Besides, you've heard the old saying, keep your friends close...
I know you weren't talking about me, I don't touch other peoples property. But as for republicans being more agressive, I think it tends to be the left that shouts down speakers they don't agree with on college campuses. The left tends to be the ones throwing paint on peoples fur coats or breaking in and letting animals out. There are alot of wacky people on the far left to balance out the militias.
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JNagarya
November 22, 2009 10:50 AM in reply to ShawninMo
Not only is that not true -- "Town Hall" teabaggers anyone? -- and by espressing that view you reveal yourself to be a right-winger constantly making the same accusation in almost-identical talking points words.
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Cal Gal
November 22, 2009 12:49 PM in reply to ShawninMo
Did you WATCH any of those August "town-hall" meetings?
Did you SEE O'Lielly shout-down that son of a 9/11 victim?
Have you SEEN photos of that "preacher" who pickets the funerals of gay people?
Your perceptions are seriously skewed. I think you need to take the blinders off.
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fcleff
November 22, 2009 2:13 PM in reply to ShawninMo
"The left tends to be the ones throwing paint on peoples fur coats or breaking in and letting animals out. "
And the right tends to blow up Federal Building (killing hundreds of people), murder doctors, take loaded weapons to Presidential events, and encourage military coups. Hmmm...
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JNagarya
November 23, 2009 8:33 AM in reply to fcleff
Yeah, but we can't be certain the paint doesn't have lead in it. A wealthy person is therefore subject to the possiblity of lead poisoning.
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unknowncitizen
November 22, 2009 12:11 AM in reply to ShawninMo
"Your nutjobs are just as dangerous and as stupid as the other sides nutjobs."
The use of "your" and "the other sides" doesn't make any sense. Shouldn't you either say "your" and "my" or "the left leaning side" and "the other side". The purported "nutjobs" which you have deduced somehow exist in completely balanced numbers and state the percentages as facts are assigned as "yours" on the left but and given to "the other side" on the right. Why do you not claim kinship with any nutjobs but assign association to whole groups of independent, reasoning people?
By the way, you are scolding a person for making a hypothetical (If I were in CO, I'd commit a misdemeanor property crime) threat. But "Jihad or President? Prove it. Wake up America Remember Fort Hood" That's something you don't find worth scolding? Yes this nasty, bigoted, delusional person can put up a billboard advertising that he fully believes the President is a muslim jihadist who's secretly enabled the killing of US soldiers at Fort Hood. The thought of even one person believing that makes me sick to my stomach by the way, but there are elected officials, national celebrity TV and radio personalities practically falling over each other trying to come the closest to flatly stating as fact that Obama is a terrorist because apparently they desperately want the votes and support of the people who believe this.
In your little "gotcha, you're just as bad" thoughtful debate dreamscape, somebody who plainly isn't where he says he would have to be to do ANY thing is a fringe nutball for wanting to paint over someone elses offensive signage.
My union hall was made to take down a sign smaller than a house for sale sign that advertised the pay scale of tradesperson positions we were looking to fill - apparently it violated the city sign ordinance.
How about if your neighbor put up a big ass sign pointing at your house that said "ShawninMo is a blog commenter who sticks up for the Birthers and 'Obama's a Jihadist' believers, is this guy a Law abiding citizen or Anti Government Militia killer in hiding? Wake up America, remember Oklahoma city".?
Your neighbor can ask that question right?
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ShawninMo
November 22, 2009 12:54 AM in reply to unknowncitizen
Why should I condemn something that isn't a crime and say nothing against something that is a crime? Vandalism is a crime(though that wasn't my point). Thinking something is NOT a crime. Saying that thought is NOT a crime. Saying something that is false is slander, and is a crime. When the party is convicted of slander, I will agree with the conviction.
I don't say "yours' and "the other side" as if I don't have a dog in the fight, but rather to make a point. I don't think there has been a census to determine the exact count on far left/far right, but with big government, we will probably get there. I'm not as far to the right as you may think.
I didn't hear ANY cries from the left when there was a book published about how to kill Bush(specifically). The left is as much a bunch of whiny tittie babies as the right is. The left has as much of the linatic fringe as the right. This crap about your side is worse than mine is a bunch of crap.
As for the neighbor sign, I wouldn't be too surprised. I had one call the police on me for my barking dog, but no less than a month later their dog wouldn't STFU, and I didn't say a thing, which is my point exactly.
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JNagarya
November 22, 2009 10:57 AM in reply to ShawninMo
Why should I condemn something that isn't a crime and say nothing against something that is a crime?
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You fool no one:
1. You defend a non-crime.
Then you draw a false equivalence between that and
2. An hypothetical crime that didn't happen.
And then, based upon that false premise, you bash the "left," "defending" that specious -- and irrelevant -- bashing by means of the fake objectivity of using fantasied-up "statistics" to assert that there are an equal numkber of nutjobs on both ends of the political spectrum.
Your underlining intent is clear: to bash the "left" while defending the pretend-innocuous lie asserted by a far-right nutjob.
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runfastandwin
November 22, 2009 12:42 AM in reply to ShawninMo
So why are you still here?
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ShawninMo
November 22, 2009 12:57 AM in reply to runfastandwin
Because I love libs. They're the retarded little sister I never had.
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dswx
November 22, 2009 10:48 AM in reply to ShawninMo
And there you have it! When pushed to the edge and unable to discuss a topic and with no facts on their side, Repubs and Libertarians *always* resort to a. making things up, and/or b. puerile name-calling. Congratulations, you just did what we expected you would.
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dswx
November 22, 2009 10:48 AM in reply to ShawninMo
And there you have it! When pushed to the edge and unable to discuss a topic and with no facts on their side, Repubs and Libertarians *always* resort to a. making things up, and/or b. puerile name-calling. Congratulations, you just did what we expected you would.
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JNagarya
November 22, 2009 10:58 AM in reply to ShawninMo
Thank you for proving my point, Mr. Transparent Bigot.
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Cal Gal
November 22, 2009 12:53 PM in reply to ShawninMo
Slamming women AND the developmentally disabled in one short sentence.
We have a WINNAH!!!
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lousgirl84
November 22, 2009 8:32 AM in reply to ShawninMo
Not even close and why don't you post examples of the crazy left. Also there never was a book called How to Kill Bush. I just googled it a million different ways and nothing came up except a Kill Bush Tee-shirt.
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ShawninMo
November 22, 2009 9:29 AM in reply to lousgirl84
Checkpoint by Nicholson Baker.
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JNagarya
November 22, 2009 11:02 AM in reply to ShawninMo
"Checkpoint" is the book title?
What happened to "How to Kill Bush" as the title?
So you came here under false pretences in order to lecture us about your superior morality?
Lying is immoral, retardate.
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JNagarya
November 22, 2009 10:45 AM in reply to ShawninMo
A person doing so would be subject to charge of damaging private property.
But I'll ask the obvious question:
Did you express that same lecture to the minority of far-right fringer thugs who showed up at heated political rallies with loaded guns intending to intimidate the opposition into silence?
Did you lecture the teabagger gangs about their preventing debate of any "views" but their misinformation?
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JNagarya
November 22, 2009 11:00 AM in reply to JNagarya
Even though the First Amendment DID apply to those situations?
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nowhereman
November 20, 2009 7:27 PM
Yeah, well I live in Colorado and I have yet to see the thing--maybe I'll ride by one of these days. But what's kinda interesting is that the radio host, Boyles, used to be an informed, entertaining guy. Then came 9/11 and like all too many others in the media and "civilian life" such as Dennis Miller, he slowly cracked.
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JNagarya
November 22, 2009 11:05 AM in reply to nowhereman
Did he "crack"? Or did he jump on the sure-thing money-maker bandwagon of the false patriotism of divisive and paranoid hate-speech?
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nowhereman
November 22, 2009 3:38 PM in reply to nowhereman
Interesting theory, J. I doubt it. Boyles used to be drugged-up radio party boy in the 80s and now rides hawgs and gets divorced. He's all for gay marriage and very liberal in some respects. I just think he is an older Boomer who is paranoid in his sobriety and who has chosen a kind of Dennis Miller libertarianism--I call it political scientology. But you know, it does seem 9/11 freaked out a lot of people and I'd like to see a psychosocial study of the freaked out.
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JNagarya
November 23, 2009 8:38 AM in reply to nowhereman
". . . drugged-up radio party boy in the 80s"?
Sounds like a wannabe Boomer, who did the equivalent of that twenty years earlier.
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matyra
November 20, 2009 7:29 PM
The billboard caricatures of Obama look just a bit, um, racist.
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commie atheist
November 20, 2009 7:31 PM in reply to matyra
Damn you and your lightning-fast fingers, matyra.
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jcd
November 22, 2009 12:17 AM in reply to matyra
Missing the point! It's the whole premise that's racist, of course: Obama isn't American, because he's Black. The whole teabagger/birther deal: Obama is inherently suspect, unpatriotic, Other, because he's Black. This isn't about "jihad" or birth certificates--it's the old story of policing racial boundaries, of poll taxes and burning crosses and lynching. Shoring up the now crumbling ideology of dichotomous realms, White privilege vs. Black subjugation. Denying what's now reality--that a Black man is president, the most powerful political leader on the planet.
The caricature is beside the point. The Church of White Privilege has suffered a possibly mortal wound; these are its death throes.
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Cal Gal
November 22, 2009 1:00 PM in reply to jcd
I don't think it is ENTIRELY about Obama's race. I think his "funny" name, especially with "Hussein" in the middle, adds to the xenophobia so many Americans demonstrate with their "We're number one" foam fingers.
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commie atheist
November 20, 2009 7:31 PM
Certainly there's nothing racist about the sign, even though it caricatures Obama as a stereotypical, big-eared black man with a shit-eating grin. The only thing missing is a watermelon.
No, no racism there. And anyone who thinks it's racist is just playing the race card and injecting race into the situation, when it has nothing to do with race, and liberals are the real racists. Also.
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JNagarya
November 22, 2009 11:08 AM in reply to commie atheist
Yeah -- what you said about racism. It isn't about racism. It's about a guy who's conspicuously black.
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traitorjoe
November 20, 2009 10:53 PM
Someone on FB from Dallas (city slogan - "We hate, I mean really hate, Democratic presidents") posted a photo of a truck pasted with this: "If Obama really loves the public option why doesn't he sign up Michelle, Malia, Sascha and himself!" as if that made any sense whatsoever. The Texans all posted back, We like this.
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lyleleander
November 21, 2009 11:54 AM in reply to traitorjoe
And ask them when they're informing the Social Security and Medicare Adminstrations to take them off their current (or future) rolls...that they will not be accepting any form of socialized medical care or compensation, thank you very much.
The crickets will split your ears.
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Cal Gal
November 22, 2009 1:03 PM in reply to traitorjoe
Pluswhich, I'm assuming the President and his family DO have government health care.
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Kuyleh
November 20, 2009 11:43 PM
I'm getting really tired of all these Fucktards that have no connection whatsoever to what happened on Ft. Hood invoking it like they give a damn. People died, and all it is to them is another thing they can twist to prove their talking points.
I hope they all rot.
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JEP07
November 21, 2009 12:56 AM
Gosh, I wonder how their car sales are going.
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JNagarya
November 23, 2009 8:40 AM in reply to JEP07
Probably pretty good: people buying cars in which to get the hell away from that town.
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lovethesinner
November 21, 2009 1:12 AM
"He wouldn't say whether the billboard suggests that Obama is responsible for Fort Hood. When asked about it, he said, 'I understand, believe me,' and said his grandfather had been in Auschwitz."
He didn't say if his grandfather was a prisoner, or a prison guard, did he? (sorry, I had to)
When Bush left office, I really thought we could put all these comparisons to the Third Reich behind us. But, this smear campaign by the far right against Obama is almost identical to the kind of political persecution used by the forbearers of the Nazi movement (the SA) in the early thirties.
I keep waiting for it all to come to a head, some kind of meta moment when Sarah Palin gets caught in a sex tape with... a moose. (no, that would only get them more excited) Something that proves once and for all that these people are, at their very essence, just incredibly stupid hicks, and we can all just laugh and be grateful that most of them will be gone to their maker before 2016, and we can rest easy knowing that ONLY in America could we have beaten back the devil, himself.
But, its just as likely that Palin will pick Glenn Beck as her running mate, and we'll all be relocated to work camps, when you think about what America really is:
A lot of old white men who are insecure about the size of their genitals.
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Cal Gal
November 22, 2009 1:05 PM in reply to lovethesinner
If her turkey-killing presser last fall didn't do it, nothing will.
There IS no thought or rationality on the part of the tea-bagging birther right wing. It's all lizard brain, all the time.
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bluestatedon
November 21, 2009 11:59 AM
"I understand, believe me," and said his grandfather had been in Auschwitz."
So I guess having an ancestor who perished in a European death camp means it's reasonable to place responsibility for a mass shooting in America at the President's desk. Makes sense to me!
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Bwakfat
November 21, 2009 9:02 PM in reply to bluestatedon
See comment above. He didn't mention the word "prisoner."
Interesting omission.
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JNagarya
November 22, 2009 11:11 AM in reply to bluestatedon
What makes even greater sense is that he invokes alleged racism against his alleged grandfather as excuse for and defense of his racism.
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Morbo
November 21, 2009 4:57 PM
I feel sorry for the people that have to work for this asshole who puts his insatiable need to come off as an asshole to over half of the population above their need to actually make a living.
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Scott in PacNW
November 22, 2009 2:23 AM
There's a billboard on I-5 near Chehalis, WA, that's had wingnut talking points for years. They change the meme every couple weeks or so. They had "where's the birth certificate" months ago.
http://meetthestress.blogspot.com/2007/01/belated-passage-alfred-hamilton-1920.html
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JNagarya
November 22, 2009 11:14 AM in reply to Scott in PacNW
I assume it didn't include a huge blow-up of a photo of Oily Tits, because you're still alive, and sane, so able to talk about it coherently.
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commie atheist
November 23, 2009 1:52 AM in reply to Scott in PacNW
Great link. That guy was one of America's true, great whackjobs. Makes me proud to be a citizen.
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labman57
November 22, 2009 10:33 AM
You have to look at the motivations of the majority of the birthers to understand why they simply cannot "let go". Fundamentally, it comes down to the following mindset: "I cannot accept THAT man in the White House because.... (fill in the blank)."
Just about ANY reason will do -- any excuse that will legitimize their race-based outrage. If it wasn't about a birth certificate, it would be about his middle name. (He's a closet Muslim, you know.)
In addition, there are a handful of unscrupulous politicians and pundits who, although not necessarily racist themselves, have no problem capitalizing on the bigotry of others by fueling their fear and hatred of Obama in order to score political points or further a personal agenda.
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JNagarya
November 22, 2009 11:15 AM in reply to labman57
It's foremost about the money.
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Sharbear
November 22, 2009 10:42 AM
I still cannot get over the "no hand over the heart" image...that is so wrong!
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Cal Gal
November 22, 2009 1:01 PM
Wow. Just ... wow. This guy really demonstrates the brain-blocked incoherence of so many birthers. Prove WHAT?
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Overreach THIS!
November 22, 2009 4:55 PM in reply to Cal Gal
Brain-blocked incoherence is right.
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aliesterrand
November 22, 2009 6:41 PM
Can anyone here tell me where the intelligent liberals post?
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commie atheist
November 23, 2009 1:52 AM in reply to aliesterrand
Down the hall, first door on your left. Moron.
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JNagarya
November 23, 2009 8:47 AM in reply to aliesterrand
I don't know what a "liberal" is except a superficial label which, to you, is a dirty word, and therefore a smear, and therefore name-calling, and therefore a personal attack. But I think I can help you find that you appear to seek. Look here:
talkingpointsmemo.com.
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Signalman
November 28, 2009 10:17 AM in reply to aliesterrand
Yeah, I posted at you repeatedly last weekend, and you apparently ran off in fear, ignorance and confusion. I'm pretty sure I'm smarter than you, since my graduate-level vocabulary and grammar confused you so much you couldn't even figure out what was going on.
When you grow a brain and a pair of nuts, come on back and I'll give you another couple of rounds. Otherwise, maybe you can hit me with your purse.
Bring it on, Lackwitticus of Borg.
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