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Remember summer? Remember the yelling, the fighting, the biting? Ever think about the St. Louis town hall that ended in a fistfight, or the protest that ended in a severed finger, or those guys who brought guns to presidential events? Ever wonder, where are they now?

Us too! So TPM tracked down some of the best stories from this summer's health care meltdown to see what's happened since.

The Guy Who Punched A 65-Year-Old In The Face

Outside of a town hall meeting with Sen. Bill Nelson (D-FL) this September, a man named Raul Anasagasti was driving his pickup truck past the crowd when he began exchanging words with health care supporters. When one of the protesters, 65-year-old Luis Perrero, uttered an offensive Spanish expletive, Anasagasti punched him in the face. The blow knocked Perrero to the ground. Anasagasti was charged with battery on a person 65 years or older.

Anasagasti reached a plea deal with prosecutors last week and will attend anger management classes. He also has to perform 50 hours of community service and stay away from Perrero. (Hat tip to Sen. Nelson for tweeting the update.)

The Guy Who Became A Martyr For Tea Partiers Everywhere

Early in August, a brawl broke out outside an overpacked town hall near St Louis, Mo. Kenneth Gladney, who was at the town hall selling "Don't Tread On Me" flags, allegedly got into a fight with some SEIU staffers, and six people were arrested.

Gladney became a martyr for right-wingers. He appeared at a rally soon after the fight in a wheelchair, pleading for help with medical bills because he had no insurance. He rode the Tea Party Express bus and spoke to crowds. He was given the "Family Advocate Award" by a group called the Public Advocate of the United States. Big names such as Glenn Beck and Andrew Breitbart have defended him, calling for his alleged assaulters to be charged with hate crimes.

But the charges came down a couple weeks ago, and for Gladney supporters, it's not much. All six came out with misdemeanors. The two SEIU staffers accused of beating up Gladney -- the Rev. Elston McCowan and Perry Molens -- are charged with assaulting a person and interfering with police. Two other men were charged with interfering, and another was charged with failing "to leave the site of an ongoing disturbance."

Gladney's alleged attackers face a maximum sentence of one year in jail and a $1,000 fine.

"I'm mad as I-don't-know-what about this," Gladney told the St. Louis Post-Dispatch. "It seems like average people can't get justice."

The Guy Who Bit Off Another Guy's Finger

In perhaps the most outrageous incident this summer, a health care supporter bit off part of the finger of a health care opponent at a rally in California. Here's what (allegedly) happened: William Rice, who opposed health care reform, went to the small counterprotest of a much larger pro-reform demonstration. While there, a man from the pro-reform side crossed the street to talk to Rice. Words were exchanged, and Rice allegedly punched the other man in the face. A fight ensued, and the man bit off part of Rice's pinkie finger.

Bystanders captured video of the biter fleeing the scene, and police were able to get some clear pictures of him.

So, three months later, have they caught him? Nope.

"We can't locate him, and no one ever came forward," a spokesman for the Ventura County Sheriff's Department tells TPM. "I have a suspicion he was from out of the Ventura County area."

The Guy Who Carried An Assault Rifle To A Presidential Event

In August, Christopher Broughton was spotted carrying an assault rifle at a protest outside an event with President Obama. As we reported at the time, Broughton's stunt was cleared with local Arizona police first, and organized by a man who had defended a '90s-era militia. TPM Muckraker dived into Broughton's background and found out that his pastor had delivered anti-Obama sermons and prayed for the president to die. The Secret Service looked into the pastor.

Broughton popped up earlier this month in a Facebook picture alongside a Republican candidate for Congress, Adam Kokesh. Broughton and Kokesh had worked together on the Ron Paul presidential campaign, and both attended the screening of a documentary about the campaign. Kokesh, who's running for one of New Mexico's seats in the House, called Broughton "an incredible gun rights activist."

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December 15, 2009 9:46 AM   

I just KNEW it was the paultards behind all of this
trucknutz!!

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December 15, 2009 10:27 AM    in reply to blader

The Paultards are very, very angry at the GOP for stealing their movement.

But what else is new.

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December 15, 2009 9:59 AM   

Those racist, sore-loser tea-baggers have crawled back under their rocks for the winter. They'll be back next election year, thanks to big oil-and big insurance-interests.

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December 15, 2009 2:07 PM    in reply to CityGuy

Yes, they are useful tools for the rich people that own and run everything.

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December 15, 2009 10:21 AM   

Looking over the state of reform at this point, with congress unable to even have a watered down medicare buy-in work, you have to just take a deep breath and admit these people won.

What can you say other than that? We got beat, and all this putrid, awful behavior worked in the end.

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December 15, 2009 10:54 AM    in reply to lyleleander

Actually, I think these people are largely irrelevant to the debate. They are either far right or uninformed wackos and the right wasn't going to support anything coming out of the Obama Administration no matter what. Their aggenda is simply to try and obstrust EVERYTHING. But, it is true, the Democrats have lost healthcare reform, but they did it themselves. The WH gave away the store at the very beginning to the insurers and PHARMA. Good grief, Dorgan's re-importation Bill HAS THE VOTES and the WH and Reid are blocking it from a vote. Talk about a callous unforgivable betrayal! We were sold out from the beginning and it will cost the Party and this Administration dearly next year and beyond. It gives me no pleasure to say this. Like many people, I had great hopes a year ago only to be truly disappointed today. A Party that allows Lieberman to rule isn't a Party I want to be part of.

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December 15, 2009 12:12 PM    in reply to xargaw

They prevented the country from having an intelligent debate on the facts... which, if it happened, I firmly believe would have lead to a much more progressive bill.

It would be akin to someone trying to get a fair trial, and someone else walking into a courtroom during the trial and standing in the aisle and screaming irrationally at random times.

Only the baliff can't remove him, and every time he screams the press comes over to him, interviews him, and asks everybody in the courtroom what they think of his opinion.

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December 15, 2009 2:50 PM    in reply to lyleleander

You and xargaw are both right. But what really defeated us was the $1.5 million a day from insurance companies and whatever Phrama and the AMA and for profit hospitals were kicking in.

We the people are screwed unless we figure out a way to keep that kind of money out of politics. I'm not waiting for congress to pass legislation that empties their pockets.

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December 15, 2009 1:09 PM    in reply to xargaw

But nooooo....

NEVER underestimate the ability of wringers to be blind to their own best interests.

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December 15, 2009 5:07 PM    in reply to xargaw

Exactly. This was the fault of the "centrist" Ds who were corporate whores and the progressive Ds who rolled over from the start.

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December 15, 2009 10:35 AM   

Irony: guy who got his finger bit off is against health care reform. Gee, I hope it was covered by his insurer.

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December 15, 2009 11:50 AM    in reply to goethean

The real irony is the guy in the wheelchair who was begging for charity because he didn't have insurance.

I don't know what actually happened, maybe he deserved it. Or, for all I know, the wheelchair was a stunt. Or maybe he was in the wrong place at the wrong time. Either way, one would think that an unforeseen medical event like that would be cause for some reflection on his position on health reform... and if that reflection didn't cause him to change his stance, it should have at least caused him to not ally himself so strongly with the extremists.

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December 15, 2009 1:10 PM    in reply to Joe

But nooooo....

NEVER underestimate the ability of wringers to be blind to their own best interests.

(My reply got filed in the wrong place by the TPM machines.)

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December 15, 2009 10:39 AM   

Obama and Harry napped while the Brown Shirts took over the debate. They don't have to "win" per se just change the terms of the argument - and the bill. So in that sense they probably did win.

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December 15, 2009 10:58 AM    in reply to traitorjoe

Your point is well-taken. I've always believed that the White House, and Senate Dems let the HCR debate get hijacked from the get-go. And it shouldn't have happened! Obama campaigned on HCR. Everyone should have carefully prepared for a backlash. Point #1: From the start it should have been billed as the "Public Safety Net" not the "Public Option". It is MUCH harder to campaign against a safety net, then some vague public option. Point #2: Anticipate the crazy arguements. This is the gang that brought us the Swift Boat Liars, after all. But now... water under the bridge.

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December 15, 2009 10:58 AM   

I've always wondered whatever became of the D-Bag at the DC rally who followed around after the poor mom and her two kids (who were just trying to make a couple of bucks selling "Don't Tread On Me" flags) and constantly yelling out that they were working for ACORN. To me, this was probably the most disgusting episode because it sharply underlined the racist undercurrent at all the rallies. It was patently obvious the woman and her kids were being harassed for no other reason than that they were black.

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December 15, 2009 11:13 AM   

Short summary of the above story: "Nothing happened". Short summary of the Obama Health Care bill: "Nothing happened". Move on folks, nothing happened.

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December 15, 2009 11:17 AM   

Aren't we supposed to be talking about Teabagger old-man-beater-uppers and finger-munchers?

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December 15, 2009 12:49 PM   

LOL, prolly either in jail or they have been "vanished"

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December 15, 2009 12:58 PM   

I believe they are at home convincing themselves and their friends repeatedly that they are VICTIMS! They will once again turn into perpetrators. It's a normal evolution.

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December 15, 2009 1:18 PM   

If I recall correctly, the original purpose of the "Taxed Enough Already" protests was gathering like-minded citizens together (of any or no political affiliation) in order to energize enough of our citizenry to effect positive change in the Legislative and Executive branches. The "movement" was a result of the Presidency of George W. Bush and the policies of his administration.

Consider the following: "In 2007, the modern tea party movement took shape, in a vastly different form than it now presents itself. Spurred by an impending recession, a government overrun by deception and corruption, and an unprecedented expansion of government under eight years of "conservative" leadership, the first modern day tea partiers had positive causes of action: honesty, respect for the rule of law, and protection of the rights of the smallest minority; the individual."

"I wrote to our supporters, asking them to be wary of old Republican figureheads like Newt Gingrich and current political strategists Patrick Leahy, hiding their identity behind make-shift "grassroots" websites. I was hopeful that the same talking heads, like Hannity and O'Reilly, that asked us to bend over blindly to past leaders would not have enough credibility to grandstand in front of an independent-minded movement."

"At some point, reality began piercing my passion. The tea party boat started becoming a wagon of whiners. Propelled by the moving mouths on TV and the talking heads of such ironically named organizations such as the "American Family Association" (one must agree that for an admitted adulterer with three ex-wives heading the AFA is ironic, right?), the movement lost its focus. No longer were tea partiers upset with the bipartisan corruption in Washington D.C., they are mad at the socialists communists Hitler-like Democrats. No longer did Constitutionalism mean respecting the rule of law, it meant Obama is not really our president. A movement founded on the principles of independent analysis, it has become a yelling fest for punch-drunk cynics armed with incoherent talking points."


I drew the above quotes from an article by Mr. Peace, one of the T.E.A. Parties" founders: http://caivn.org/article/2009/11/30/tea-party-co-founder-blasts-mainstream-gop-imitators

It's interesting how the ordinary citizens who began and attended the protests are forgotten and their participation and efforts have been replaced in our collective memory by the fewer and less rational attendees.


Best regards,

Charles

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December 15, 2009 1:33 PM   

"Two other men were charged with interfering, and another was charged with failing 'to leave the site of an ongoing disturbance.'"

This is out of context and has no bearing on what the SEIU people charged in the alleged assault or my opinions on the particular case. But dang, don't the police have you coming, going, or staying?

If the guy charged with this spoke with or made some physical motion in the direction of police, he could've been charged, like the two other men, with interference, if the guy *did* "leave the site" and police thought he might have been involved, he could have conceivably been charged with fleeing the scene of a crime, but no, he stuck around, possibly unheeding of or disobeying some police person's order to step away, and got this charge.

Granted, I know it's not always easy for police people to handle disturbances, nor for them to have the right mix of training and experience to use the proper amount of force, and I do not envy their position. There must be crimes on the books, however, that exist solely for police to use as legal cover to detain you.

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December 15, 2009 1:38 PM   

Where are they now??

WALMART

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December 15, 2009 2:06 PM   

I still can't get the taste of that guy's pinky out of my mouth...

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December 15, 2009 3:38 PM   

Ken Gladney: "It seems like average people can't get justice."

Bah! You're just now coming to that conclusion, meatwad?

If a conservative is a liberal who just got mugged, a liberal is a conservative who just got arrested.

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December 16, 2009 1:52 AM   

He appeared at a rally soon after the fight in a wheelchair, pleading for help with medical bills because he had no insurance. He rode the Tea Party Express bus and spoke to crowds.

How did anyone not notice that his lack of medical treatment predicament would be totally prevented if there was Single Payer Health Insurance?!?!?

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December 16, 2009 2:50 PM   

The quality of the healthcare debate has been a disappointment, mostly because of the money poured in by the insurance companies and their ability to mislead the easily misled teabaggers. Maybe the upside is that those against good healthcare for all will change their minds when more of them go bankrupt or even die because they lose their coverage. With premiums rising, it could happen soon.

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