Did MSNBC's Mika Brzezinski Say Her Favorite Founding Father Is Lincoln? (VIDEO)

now you know why the people asking questions, do not ask good follow-up questions. ie stephanopolous

That is such a weird question anyways.

An intelligent person on that show could say Benjamin Franklin because without him the French would have never gotten involved during the Revolution, and there would be no Starbucks coffee for them to put on their round table, just biscuits and tea.

Or then there is Paine,who's knack for writing inspired the settlers to walk away from their farms and pick up a rifle. Of course the irony for Paine is he was an Atheist and Glenn Beck, a radical Mormon, wrote a whole book about him that is littered with factually challenged assertions.

I would probably go with John Adams though.

Thus validating another day of 'Morning Jo(k)e' and Scarborough's hand puppets.

I would consider anyone who profoundly shaped the constitutional order to be a founding father - a Lycurgus, as it were. Thus, Thomas Paine might not cut it even if he is my favorite guy from the whole damn 18th century.

By that measure, however, I think it fair to consider Susan B. Anthony a founding father, as it were. I would also include Lincoln and FDR.

We could really another right about now (hint, hint, Mr. O).

i never have watched this show before but i'd say she is an idiot and is lucky everyone was talking all at once instead of being on the spot and them all hearing her say lincoln.

the big difference is that i have never heard of mika through most political dialogue and unless I am bluntly unaware, she has never run for any significant position to which the public would elect her. that is the radical difference between her airheadism and bible spice's vapidness.

I can only offer my condolences to Zbigniew (or 'Big News' as my spouse calls him) Brzezinski. He must be considering retiring to his study with a bottle of good whisky and revolver to end the embarrassment. He should have spent more time with his daughter. She certainly didn't learn much and seems to have been infected with the conservative stupid retro-virus as well.

I am amazed none of the Faux News crew did not say "Reagan".

I am amazed none of the Faux News crew did not say "Reagan".

They probably couldn't decide if it should be Reagan and Jesus, in that order, or Jesus, then Reagan.

I can hear her say "Lincoln" but it is not clear from the context that she is literally advancing him as a "founding father." People were sort of talking over each other during this segment, but Scarborough asked Buchanan "Are you relieved she [Palin] picked one of the six?" So it's possible Mika could have been throwing out answers that would have been worse than what Palin actually said.

Based on the little I have seen of her, I do not have a lot of respect for Mika Brzezinski. But I think some benefit of the doubt is owed under the circumstances. To conclude she thinks Lincoln is a founding father from this exchange is the least possible charitable interpretation, especially given the depth of ignorance that would be necessary to make such a statement.

Sure, she's an idiot. No question. But she was obviously thinking "President" instead of "founding father," and this is just not that big a deal. There's much better stuff to slam Mika with. Her father must shudder daily.

I don't really think it matters a whole hill of beans what Mika thinks, but it certainly sounded like a sincere offering in response to Buchanan. What I find most amusing about this is the look on Palin's face at the 10 second mark... It's almost like the visual equivalent of the "needle scratching on a record" sound effect... Or Scooby Doo's "RRRrunh?"

I think mika was giving a 'miss north carolina' response.

Here is the entire Beck interview....

http://www.fireandreamitchell.com/2010/01/13/glenn-beck-interviews-sarah-palin-january-13-2010/
Check out part 6 around 2 minutes in. She is talking about the public conflating Fey's 'parody and her reality."
"Some of reality started kinda of atrophying into something whatever else she was saying".."People weren't intellegent enough to know what the difference was."
Sentence structure is one thing but, it may be true her devotees won't know the difference between atrophy and morphing, leaving her to her own retorical devices are pure gold.

A heart beat away.

Publius!

Is this program STILL on the air!?!?!?!?!
Dear Lord!
Like having the DVD box set of paint drying...

I think its a defensible answer for a person well educated in American history myself. In a very real sense the United States of America as a sovereign entity did not exist until Lincoln insisted that it did. The Constitution settled on by the "Founding Fathers" as the term generally defines them was an unclear compromise between Federalists and Anti-Federalists over the sovereignty of states particularly as it applied to slavery. Of course just like today's "states rights" crowd who seem to forget that when it comes to state laws allowing things like medical MJ or any of the other innumerable things they hate the "anti-federalists" veered in practical principal if not rhetoric depending on whether they wanted to use the federal government to cram slavery down other states and territories throats or defend their "state sovereignty" against laws that might adversely effect their right to own another human being.

They were getting closer and closer to freakout well before Lincoln was elected because it was increasingly clear that time and tide were not on their side and eventually they would loose the "right" to own people. Him getting elected was the excuse to finish freaking out and cite the sovereignty of states and stomp off. He said they couldn't and he won the war finishing the bit that the other founders kicked down the road.

Paul Westerberg

What's with the "six" Buchanan refers to? The Declaration alone had 56 signers. The Founding Fathers as a notion includes a lot of people.

I don't understand why Mika is snickering and snorting. George Washington was one of the founding fathers. Palin picked him as her favorite. Does that make Palin ignorant and stupid? Many people admire Washington. Or does Mika think that Washington is not considered a founding father of our country? If so, Mika needs to review her history lessons!

My Favorite founding father is:

"Massasoit was the grand sachem (intertribal chief) of all the Wampanoag Indians, who inhabited parts of present Massachusetts and Rhode Island, particularly the coastal regions. In March 1621—several months after the landing of the Mayflower at Plymouth—Massasoit journeyed to the colony with his colleague Samoset, who had already made friendly overtures to the Pilgrims there. Convinced of the value of a thriving trade with the newcomers, Massasoit set out to ensure peaceful accord between the races—a peace that lasted as long as he lived. In addition, he and his fellow Indians shared techniques of planting, fishing, and cooking that were essential to the settlers’ survival in the wilderness. When Massasoit became dangerously ill in the winter of 1623, he was nursed back to health by the grateful Pilgrims. The colonial leader, Governor Edward Winslow, was said to have traveled several miles through the snow to deliver nourishing broth to the chief.

Massasoit was able to keep the peace for many decades, but new waves of land-hungry Europeans created tension as the Indians’ native land was steadily taken over by the whites. When he died, goodwill gradually dissolved, culminating in the bloody King Philip’s War (1675), led by Massasoit’s second son."

Without his compassion these United States wouldn't exist.