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Jon Stewart entered Bill O'Reilly's "No Spin Zone" last night, in the first night of a two-part interview with the Fox News host. Part two airs tonight.

The interview was largely pretty civil and friendly -- and Stewart and O'Reilly debated a number of issues, from President Obama's first-year performance to Republican obstructionism to Fox News' objectivity.

Early in the interview, O'Reilly read a quote from the Washington Post's Howard Kurtz saying that Stewart had become an "important cultural arbiter."

"That is frightening though," O'Reilly said (he'd earlier declared that "a lot of people don't think you're smart"). O'Reilly then asked Stewart if he understood "the implications of you being important in any context?"

"Well, I think my family loves me," Stewart replied.

O'Reilly defended the division between news and opinion at Fox, saying the network is clear about which shows are which.

"C'mon, Stewart. Wise up, man," he said. "Everybody knows this. People watching in Pakistan. They got a little DIRECTV."

Then, adopting a strange accent, O'Reilly apparently tried to imitate one of these Pakistanis.

"They go, 'That O'Reilly opinion show.' They know."

Stewart looked a little baffled and amused: "Why do they use that accent?"

Stewart acknowledged that Fox News "is the most passionate and sells the clearest narrative of any news organization" before stopping at that phrase. "Are you still referring to it in that manner?" he asked.

On Obama, Stewart said, "I can't tell if he's a jedi master playing chess on a three-level board way ahead of us or if this is kicking his ass."

Here's the first part of last night's interview:

Things got a little more heated later, when O'Reilly said Stewart couldn't refute his examples with his "propaganda." Stewart, somewhat surprisingly, responded to that line of attack by declaring that O'Reilly had "become the most reasonable voice on Fox" -- though he equated that to being "the thinnest kid at fat camp."

There was a glimpse of some fireworks that might air tonight, when Stewart declared that Fox News had taken reasonable concerns about Obama and the economy and turned them into "a full-fledged panic attack about the next coming of Chairman Mao."

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February 4, 2010 9:05 AM   

"O'Reilly defended the division between news and opinion at Fox, saying the network is clear about which shows are which."

Wow, what an incredible lie. As Stewart clearly showed on The Daily Show a month or two ago when he showed how an obscure, hateful point made on one of the "Fox opinion" shows was subsequently turned into a news story on their "news" program!

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February 4, 2010 7:34 PM    in reply to dswx

What I found most interesting about that comment is that, at the very same time as O'Reilly is stating that there is a clear distinction between news and opinion on Fox - and O'Reilly stating that he clearly falls into the opinion category - at the bottom left corner of the television screen is the rotating Fox News sign.

Clearly a division...

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February 4, 2010 9:31 AM   

"Jon Stewart" a wimpy weasel. Bill O'Reilly a bumptious buffoon.

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February 4, 2010 10:20 AM    in reply to Sailormarlowe

Wow. Sitting here for an hour waiting for a response to this.
Well. Here it is.

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February 4, 2010 3:00 PM    in reply to Sailormarlowe

Jon Stewart is a wimp? You've clearly never seen this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFQFB5YpDZE

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February 4, 2010 9:42 AM   

Part 2 - 1:28 - I love Bill O'Lielly's reaction there... He's trying to figure out what being the thinnest kid at fat camp means, then he's deciding wherther or not to explode into bully mode.

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February 4, 2010 3:46 PM    in reply to Hey Obama - Get in the Fight!!

Hah! Yes, that was my favorite moment in this whole interview. He's trying to keep his face impassive, but you can tell that it is a mighty effort.

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February 4, 2010 9:46 AM   

BTW, insulting the populace of a nuclear power that is one of our few working partners in fighting the Taliban - classy move, Bill.

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February 4, 2010 9:46 AM   

Man, Stewart is brilliant. Bill'O the Clown is full shit. Especially when he claims that Daily Show's audience is consist of burnouts and hippies.

I would be willing to bet my savings that the most informed and educated audience is that of the Daily Show. People who watch Bill'O's comedy hour are most likely old, Republican, wealthy, white, and male.

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February 4, 2010 9:47 AM    in reply to Africanlivedit

Grammar check! Need a edit button...

blurgh!

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February 4, 2010 12:47 PM    in reply to Africanlivedit

Change "wealthy" to "poor and ignorant" and you'd be dead on!

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February 6, 2010 6:23 AM    in reply to CyberDuckie

The republican *leaders* are wealthy, and all of their efforts are dedicated to the top 1%. The republican *voters* tend to be poor, frightened, and uneducated, and as a result are easily tricked by the slick, greedy top dogs into supporting idiocy like the "Tea Parties", which are obviously a front for corporate interests.

This leaves the thinking people of America watching a bunch of uninformed, angry yokels working tirelessly directly against their own interests - and ours!

It's maddening, ain't it?

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February 4, 2010 1:11 PM    in reply to Africanlivedit

The news shows are so idiotic, that intellegent people are almost impelled by the existing news shoes, Fox News especially, to watch a parody of news in order to reinforce their own sense of sanity.

On the other han, my father, who suffers from dementia, watches Fox news.

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February 4, 2010 9:47 AM   

there's a "rope-a-dope" joke in there somewhere

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February 4, 2010 9:55 AM   

Newscorp(Faux News)fought and declared it self to be "Infotainment' to the SCOTUS. Has anything changed Billo?

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February 4, 2010 10:09 AM   

Why is O'Reilly so confused about the difference between a comedy show making fun of politics and hypocrisy and a corporate mouthpiece pretending to be a news outlet?

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February 4, 2010 10:15 AM   

The funniest thing on O'Reilly was the "body language expert" he had on after the Stewart segment. He was disappointed that body language revealed that Jon wasn't really cowed by him. It's good to have someone to tell you what to think, Bill. Sad when it doesn't jibe with what you WANT to think.

"We'll do it LIVE!"

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February 4, 2010 4:14 PM    in reply to Msinformed

What was up with that wild arm swinging, finger in his face business anyway? I expect to see a different body language expert on the Daily Show sometime in the near future to pick that apart.

Bill andrea mackris O'Reilly malmedy massacre is such a condescending ass I can barely stand to watch him without developing a serious case of temporary tourettes.

Also, remember when Dennis Miller was funny?

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February 6, 2010 6:26 AM    in reply to expat46

OMG, don't even mention Miller. In the new clips he is not only nasty and extremely un-funny, he's also fat and doughy now! What a total loser.

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February 4, 2010 10:29 AM   

It was an interesting interview. I think that Stewart was trying to be extra thoughtful and conversational (with a touch of bemusement), a good strategy because it defused Bill O's usual bluster. It cracks me up that the guys at Fox don't really know what to make of Stewart or how to treat him though I think Bill is closer to correct than the others. The thing I thought was most interesting is when Bill called Beck "an everyman", which we all know is a BS position. The Daily show does two things: they make fun of the media and they make fun of the political establishment. I think that Beck and Fox try to spin Beck's show as something similar but the reality is much more disturbing. I was glad to see Stewart say so.

At any rate, Jon did the right thing by showing up as a reasonably humble and intelligent adult.

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February 4, 2010 10:44 AM   

Stewart is great in these clips. The guy has an understated way of goading egomaniacs like O'Reilly into revealing their defensiveness and duplicity. He is "telling it like it is" and O'Reilly is spinning like crazy right there in his "No Spin Zone". Hilarious!

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February 4, 2010 10:48 AM   

Why is Bill obsessed with Stewart being a cultural phenom. He brought it up last time. It's like he's saying, "Oh yeah I influence people, but YOU, you really influence people. Especially those kids." Maybe he's feeling him out for tips on how to hang with the cool kids.

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February 4, 2010 4:20 PM    in reply to Waltz

It's jealousy. It absolutely drives BillO insane that Jon Stewart is the most trusted name in news.

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February 4, 2010 10:49 AM   

I can't understand why Stewart agreed to this waste of time. It only gives FoxNewsers the ability to proclaim "See, we really are fair and balanced! We even gave Jon Stewart a platform."

Mr. O'Reilly is a retarded bully. You cannot reason with a retarded bully. They need serious professional help in a qualifying institution. [Although, in Fox's case one could say the nuts are running the nuthouse]

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February 4, 2010 3:51 PM    in reply to theWalrus

Uh-oh, you said the r-word! Sarah Palin gonna be mad at you!

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February 4, 2010 10:50 AM   

When O'Lielly said that FauxSnooze cut that last 20 minutes (not 12) of Obama's address to the Republicans, he said they had other business to attend to. Jon should have called BS on that: What FauxSnooze did (and I'd flipped to see it) was to go to their talking heads to talk about Obama's address!!!!

Cheers,

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February 4, 2010 11:01 AM    in reply to zuch

Jon could also have pointed out there's a *slight* difference between covering a run-of-the-mill acceptance speech of a first-time senator-elect, and a fascinating, unprecedented debate between the President of the United States and the opposing party.

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February 4, 2010 10:55 AM   

And the part about not having Ctheney was BS too. Not only has Ctheney given exclusive interviews to Faux (such as this), but there's his freakin' daughter on all the time to carry the water for her father....

Cheers,

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February 5, 2010 3:38 AM    in reply to zuch

Ctheny? CTHENY?? I'd never seen that before.

Thank you, thank you, thank you. It's perfect.

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February 4, 2010 10:56 AM   

I thought Stewart scored a few good points, but I wish he hadn't looked so sheepish the whole time. Besides, the place to debate O'Reilly is not on his own show, where he can edit out all the stuff that makes him look bad. He needs to do it in a public setting like he did with Crossfire, where the audience can record the whole glorious thing.

I also wish Jon had stuck up for his audience when O'Reilly called them a bunch of stoners. O'Reilly does that a lot. Stewart could have at least shot back with some disparaging remarks about the typical Fox viewer.

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February 4, 2010 11:18 AM    in reply to dpucca

I wish Jon had brought out the proverbial Woody Allen "sock full of manure" and bashed some "knowledge" into that creep's freakishly large head. Now that's what I'd call entertainment!

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February 4, 2010 11:24 AM    in reply to dpucca

Stewart knows his audience way better than O'Reilly ever will. He also knows that media types still can't believe that more people trust Jon to tell them what's really going on than the so-called 'Real' news casters out there.

So yes.. Bill can huff and puff all he want's but he dare not let Jon get in a total answer since not only would it leave him looking foolish but might peel off some of his viewers who think that it's not so bad hanging out with the druggie slacker crowd.

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February 4, 2010 11:27 AM    in reply to dpucca

I agree with your point about Staurt needing to defend his audience better. Bill and Sean are the dark masters of the ad hominem attack. They capitalize on decades of the noise machine cultivating negative heuristic associations towards any mention of the words "librals, atheists, scientists, environmentalists" etc. Although I realize precisely the audience Bill intends this message to reach, I think that Jon shouldn't let that asshole tar his fans with a brush that contains so many foul and incorrect associations, especially that they're uninformed, stoned kids. Fuck that smirky d-bag.

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February 4, 2010 2:14 PM    in reply to AndrewT

What's wrong with stoned slackers? Some of my best friends are stoned slackers.

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February 4, 2010 11:01 AM   

As much as I appreciate Stewart's willingness to look directly into the eyes of the most vapid talking heads (including freakishly over-sized ones), my popcorn remains cued for the next Colbert-Papa Bear broadcast event. Bring it, Colbert!... and what's-his-face.

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February 4, 2010 11:59 AM   

This Stewart fella runs a far left liberal funhouse on his Comedy Central show. I can tell Mr. O'Reilly loves to spar with this court jester, but let's face it: Mr. O'Reilly has one of the highest rated shows in television. Mr. Stewart cannot even come close with his drugged-out fans, which thankfully number far fewer than "The O'Reilly Factor."

The point here is that Real America is tired of the MSM's dominant liberal culture. That is why FOX News, talk radio and magazines like National Review and Newsmax consistently do well -- even in bad economic times that we're facing under this president.

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February 4, 2010 12:33 PM    in reply to Bill Orvis White

"This Stewart fella runs a far left liberal funhouse on his Comedy Central show."

Error of logic: Loaded Language

"I can tell Mr. O'Reilly loves to spar with this court jester,"

Error of logic: Ad hominen

"but let's face it: Mr. O'Reilly has one of the highest rated shows in television. Mr. Stewart cannot even come close with his drugged-out fans, which thankfully number far fewer than "The O'Reilly Factor.""

Error of logic: Appeal to popularity

"The point here is that Real America is tired of the MSM's dominant liberal culture."

Error of logic: Biased sample

"That is why FOX News, talk radio and magazines like National Review and Newsmax consistently do well"

Error of logic: Appeal to popularity

" -- even in bad economic times that we're facing under this president."

Error of logic: Ah, screw it. Your just a dooshbag.

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February 4, 2010 3:22 PM    in reply to codebreaker

Awesome post!!!

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February 4, 2010 12:36 PM    in reply to Bill Orvis White

Wow, people really still believe this? --> "The point here is that Real America is tired of the MSM's dominant liberal culture. That is why FOX News, talk radio and magazines like National Review and Newsmax consistently do well -- even in bad economic times that we're facing under this president. "

Allow me to school you, Bill Orvis White. Let's pretend that all of American TV viewership is a pie - and that half the viewers are liberal and half are conservative, which is what the most recent Census poll shows us. Now imagine that NBC, CNN, MSNBC, ABC and CBS are all hungry kids, targeting the liberal half of the pie. Now picture FOX taking the other half, which no other network is fighting him for.

Who has the biggest piece of pie?

Now imagine that those pieces of pie represent ratings, as fed by viewership.

It has nothing to do with whatever ill-conceived idea you have of "Real America." It has to do with the fact that FOX has no competition for its half, whereas the other five networks are competing for theirs. It's a very simple business model, one that has proven very successful for FOX News.

If you'd like to argue further about this, I'd love to see you try to refute me. I actually had the pleasure of engaging in a lengthy discussion with Roger Ailes himself about this once, and he confirmed my suspicions on the matter. And if you don't now who Roger Ailes is, then you don't know squat about FOX News.

I'm sick to death of seeing this argument from ill-informed FOX viewers. FOX News is successful, but not for your tired reasoning. Please do your research in the future before you spout off generalizations about this topic.

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February 4, 2010 2:11 PM    in reply to ElizaBWms

You forget to ad that since Faux News is the mouthpiece of our Corporate Overlord Oligarchs, it is present on practically every Big Business TV. When I dialyzed in Southern California, the ONLY news channel on the TV was Faux. The did not even have CNN. Talk about a captive audience.

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February 4, 2010 4:46 PM    in reply to Cal Gal

I lived in London from June '01 through '08. I was hungry for news from an American perspective especially given the world events of the past 9 years. Thanks to the Murdoch empires ownership of Sky broadcasting I was able to watch FAUX News live. Let me assure you it was absolute torture.

I don't suffer from confirmation bias because I have the ability to change my mind when confronted with facts that don't support my postion. Unfortunately most FAUX news viewers do not share this ability.

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February 4, 2010 3:33 PM    in reply to Bill Orvis White

Oh, please. The notion all news outlets, save Fox, cater to the left by presenting a liberal bias is utter and total nonsense. Most media navigate a bona-fide center line—the only exception being MSNBC's recent and calculated move left. No, this "liberal media" mantra has been a right wing talking point-slash-canard for decades. It came out of the Watergate and Vietnam era, when conservatives and corporate elites discovered giving Americans facts was harmful to their political agenda. And just because half of America has been duped by this lie, and now readily accuses the media of this bias, does not—in any way—make it true. Furthermore, American conservatives have swung to a radical, near fascist right. From this distorted worldview any even-handed or sensible news media gets tagged as liberal, making the paranoia drumbeat of Fox News only sound louder in their ears.

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February 4, 2010 4:54 PM    in reply to jcfinsf

Your exactly right. Do you think there is a danger in what FOX is doing?

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February 5, 2010 12:56 PM    in reply to expat46

One should ask the late Dr. Tiller's family that question.

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February 4, 2010 7:29 PM    in reply to Bill Orvis White

O'Reilly does not have one of the highest rated shows in television. He has one of the highest rated cable shows and I just checked the Nielson ratings and he was 11th on the cable list this week. Burn Notice had higher ratings than O'Reilly this week. I guess the no spin zone doesn't operate here.

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February 4, 2010 7:48 PM    in reply to Bill Orvis White

Honestly, Bill Orvis White, life is much too short to respond to every ill-informed opinion expressed on the Intertubes, and Codebreaker has pretty much demolished your entire post, but I'm afraid you still don't understand how far adrift you've come from the basic raw facts of the matter. The Great Recession began in December 2007 and sharply worsened in September 2008. The president of the United States at the time was named Bush. The sky is up, Bill, water freezes at 32 degrees F., and Barack Obama did not create the current economic situation. You really don't have even a tenuous grasp on reality, pal.

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February 4, 2010 10:23 PM    in reply to Bill Orvis White

One significant point you left out: in 10 years, most of Stewart's viewers will be the people running the country.

Conversely, in 10 years, most of O'Reilly's viewers will be dead.

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February 4, 2010 10:30 PM    in reply to Bill Orvis White

I find your ideas intriguing and wish to subscribe to your newsletter.

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February 4, 2010 12:37 PM   

I really don't like the look that Stewart puts on his face. It's one of his comic faces. His little pouty look doesn't lend itself to the fact that he's got a real backbone. He certainly talks the talk, but the body language is less confident and he's not speaking to his audience when he's on Fox News.

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February 4, 2010 2:20 PM    in reply to ohyeathatsright

You obviously did not watch the body language analysis that followed later in the show. Jon was play acting & was all "thumbs-up confident" to Billo's dismay.

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February 4, 2010 1:12 PM   

O'Reilly is nutz. Pissed me off that Jon let the narrative that people that watch the Daily Show are 'all stoner's that love Obama'. I feel like this was a pointless event because I doubt it revealed anything to regular Fox viewers and I certainly learned nothing new.

Fox is the reason I don't buy cable and don't watch TV.

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February 4, 2010 2:27 PM    in reply to synchronicity

How do you watch the Daily Show? Straight, with no cable? That's just "nutz".

There's more real news on the comedy show than most news shows.

What's the largest cash crop in the largest agricultural state of the largest agricultural nation?

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February 4, 2010 1:17 PM   

I wonder if Bill-O would try and imitate his own racist version of a Chinese accent. Or a black "inner city" accent. Or imitate his own racist version of a a hispanic accent. The guy would get his ass handed to him. Somehow, this disgusting creature thinks its fine to poke fun at a Pakistani/Indian accent. I hope the next time he has an ailment and has to catch a cab to get to a hospital in NYC, the Pakistani cabbie tells him to drop dead, and if he ever gets to the hospital, his Indian surgeon sticks a fork in him.

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February 4, 2010 1:48 PM   

If Fox wasn't free with most cable operations their ratings would drop immediately!

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February 4, 2010 2:10 PM   

Jon Stewart and Glen Beck have something in common, when there is major criticism about them or their shows they both like hide behind their "Rodeo Clown" persona.

Like it or not Mr. Stewart your "The Daily Show" is perceived as real news by a huge majority of your audience.

What does that say about your audience Mr. Stewart?

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February 4, 2010 2:25 PM    in reply to DugFmJamul

"on Stewart and Glen Beck have something in common, when there is major criticism about them or their shows they both like hide behind their "Rodeo Clown" persona."

The difference? Stewart doesn't pretend to be anything else.

"Like it or not Mr. Stewart your "The Daily Show" is perceived as real news by a huge majority of your audience."

If you believed what you were writing, you wouldn't be attacking Stewart, who always takes pains to remind his audience that it is a comedy show.

But of course, you don't believe what your writing. You are just making a feeble attempt at some kind of equivalence between Stewart and Beck, to give your attack some imagined credibility.

This is my favorite strategy by conservatives. Make a pathetic attempt to sound impartial, and then cut-and-paste some freeper smear. You guys are such pathetic people.

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February 4, 2010 8:42 PM    in reply to codebreaker

No what is pathetic is Mr. Stewart's lack of intellectual honesty, 80% of his "comedy" show is "opinionated news".

The most disturbing point of the interview was when Jon thought Obama should just walk into Congress and order them about like some tin-pot dictator from Socialist run country....Venezuela comes to mind.

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February 4, 2010 4:15 PM    in reply to DugFmJamul

Get thee away thee troll DugFaJa. Get your paycheck from Andrew Breightfart, and then leave.

James O'keefee is saving your seat at the Stormfront literature table at some Cato Institute convention somewhere

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February 4, 2010 5:07 PM    in reply to MarinCat

Whatever you do, don't get him started on another constitutional law lesson. I don't have time to scroll through all the tea-bagging drivel he will no doubt flood the thread with.

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February 4, 2010 7:01 PM    in reply to expat46

Wow, so much love for the other-side...it makes me feel all warm and fuzzy!

Now, now what you call "tea-bagging drivel" I call the Constitution.

For the record I will never discuss the merits of constitutional law, since most of the time it's unconstitutional!

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February 4, 2010 8:44 PM    in reply to MarinCat

James O'keefee is cool, didn't you see him in the pimp outfit, cool wasn't?

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February 4, 2010 3:18 PM   

I don't get why Stewart bothers going on there anymore.

One time, it was funny and there were some useful soundbites, but now when he goes on with the false pretension of mutual respect, it just gives Blow Reilly a chance to show his viewers that he is really cool, man.

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February 4, 2010 4:01 PM   

Last seconds of clip 2: Yes O'Pigly you looked like an ass. And on a bar exam in all 50 states it's called assault.

Dick's Army did the same thing to Rachael M on a Sunday recently (it was not assault but he moved into her space, and she -unlike Stewart- did not push back.

Stewart was brilliant, 1) letting O'Dickly buster and interrupt made him look small and 2) Main stream right wing talk radio was spot on. From hate radio to Fox, thence to politician's mouths. And you get the Susan Collins' embarrassment yesterday with Andrea Mitchell and ..... I can't go on.

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February 4, 2010 8:12 PM   

2:05-

O'Reilly: "He's an everyman! He sits on a barstool and he spouts..."

He sits on a barstool and he spouts.

A barstool.

I don't own a barstool and the bars I go to don't have stools. Am I not an everyman?

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February 5, 2010 8:24 AM   

Thank god for Jon Stewart! I never have to do anything! i can just sit here and feel smug that my team has the wittiest guy in comedy on our side! He makes me so complacent that I don't even notice that the 'evil' Republicans control the government! I don't need to think or respond or vote! I know Jon's got my back.
He's so funny! I love when he makes Jew jokes b/c, you know, he's jewish, so it's ok! I wish he was black :(

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February 5, 2010 12:31 PM   

Chairman Mao, no Bernie Sanders yes!

Bernie like Barrack are enemies of the Constitution.

Didn't you all watch Barrack cross his fingers behind his back when he took the oath of office?

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April 30, 2010 5:33 AM   

It was an interesting interview. I think that Stewart was trying to be extra thoughtful and conversational (with a touch of bemusement), a good strategy because it defused Bill O's usual bluster. It cracks me up that the guys at Fox don't really know what to make of Stewart or how to treat him though I think Bill is closer to correct than the others. The thing I thought was most interesting is when Bill called Beck "an everyman", which we all know is a BS position. The Daily show does two things: they make fun of the media and they make fun of the political establishment. I think that Beck and Fox try to spin Beck's show as something similar but the reality is much more disturbing. I was glad to see Stewart say so.

At any rate, Jon did the right thing by showing up as a reasonably humble and intelligent adult.

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