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Jenny Sanford: Mark Wouldn't Promise Fidelity -- In Wedding Vows
Rachel Slajda | February 2, 2010, 6:12PM
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Jenny Sanford, the estranged wife of South Carolina Gov. Mark Sanford, told Barbara Walters in an ABC interview that her husband insisted they take the fidelity clause out of their marriage vows.
"It bothered me to some extent, but ... we were very young, we were in love," she said. "I questioned it, but I got past it ... along with other doubts that I had."
She called the marriage a "leap of faith."
The interview will be aired this Friday on 20/20, the day her book is set to be released. She announced she was filing for divorce in December.
Mark Sanford was embroiled in a scandal last year after he admitted to visiting a lover in Argentina, after he disappeared from the state and telling his staff he was hiking the Appalachian Trail.
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ohyeathatsright
February 2, 2010 6:20 PM
How'd that turn out for ya Jenny?
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Vincent F
February 2, 2010 6:20 PM
Family values, Dude. I'm sure Sanford has a strong position on telling other people whether they can or cannot marry.
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DP1
February 2, 2010 6:36 PM in reply to Vincent F
Sanford was one of the loudest ones calling for Clinton's balls after the Lewinsky affair. While he was probably doing the same thing behind his own wifes back at the same time.
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notthatstupid
February 2, 2010 10:42 PM in reply to DP1
Ya think?
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Overreach THIS!
February 3, 2010 4:45 AM in reply to DP1
In a way, no, though, not behind her back!! LOL! He wouldn't swear fidelity? That's forewarned, alright!
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AhTrini1
February 3, 2010 8:14 AM in reply to Vincent F
It's classic hypocrite mantra, 'Do as I say, and want to enact laws to make you do, but certainly, not as I do'.
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SqueakyRat
February 4, 2010 12:07 AM in reply to AhTrini1
Particularly hypocrites who have trouble with the English language.
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jjjs
February 2, 2010 6:23 PM
wot a dickhead.
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romath
February 2, 2010 6:24 PM
This story blows all you moralistic cretins chasing Sanford's infidelity out of the water. Sounds like he was up front from get-go. What's her complaint?
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JEP07
February 2, 2010 7:03 PM in reply to romath
"moralistic cretins"
You do realize that is something of an oxymoron?
Sanford is the hypocrite, not because he cheated on his wife, but because he ran on family values.
The "moralistic cretins" who believed in his "fidelity" enough to vote for are his victims, too.
And I mean that generically, not just matrimonially, fidelity goes way beyond marriage. It goes to the character of the person, not just their family relationships.
Romath, as long as apologists like you are willing to overlook that lack of personal fidelity in Republicans, but dog-pile on Dems, or anyone, for the same infidelity of character, you just compound the hypocrisy.
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Massenois
February 3, 2010 7:05 AM in reply to JEP07
I second that
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commie atheist
February 2, 2010 9:28 PM in reply to romath
You really don't realize what a stupid idiot you sound like, do you?
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Lycurgus
February 2, 2010 11:17 PM in reply to romath
maybe I'm off base or just not familiar with romath, but I think that was sarcasm
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hotspur
February 3, 2010 12:53 PM in reply to Lycurgus
Yes, sarcasm, methinks. Seriously people, let's grow a pair. A pair of humor.
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GregorZap
February 3, 2010 1:05 AM in reply to romath
Then he lied and said he was hiking the Appalachian trail.
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Denny Crane, Esq.
February 3, 2010 1:15 AM in reply to GregorZap
He didn't lie; he was misquoted, due to the message being passed between several people. He said he was going off to get some Argentinian tail.
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tiowally
February 3, 2010 6:21 AM in reply to Denny Crane, Esq.
FTW!
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phish
February 16, 2010 12:07 PM in reply to romath
elaine is that you?
fish
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rbeats
February 2, 2010 6:28 PM
Look at his kids. What a terrible role model they have.
At least, if they are inquisitive minds, they can reject Christianity and the silly idea of religion, when they see how involved he is, and how high up he is in "The Family"
But I won't hold my breathe. Ignorance and scumbagginess is usually inherited.
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BlindBat
February 3, 2010 5:32 AM in reply to rbeats
How about leaving his kids alone. That's quite an assumption being made. He's a dick, let's leave it at that.
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hollywood
February 3, 2010 1:36 PM in reply to BlindBat
Just a minute! The religious right paraded around "THE CHILDREN" in their hateful campaign to stop gay couples from having any right to get married. How is it when the hate mongers want to use "THE CHILDREN" to scare everyone about some moral issue that is OK? I say he is a HORRIBLE example to his children and do not be surprised if his sons someday act as selfish and immoral as their dear old dad.
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AirBoss
February 2, 2010 6:29 PM
Sure. Make mine Argentine...
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ariseatex
February 2, 2010 6:35 PM
If I ever get married, I probably will also remove the fidelity part from my vows, but that's because my partner & I are swingers. Hell, I don't think his sleeping with an Argentinian woman in itself was that bad. But if you're going to take that stance, Sanford, at least adjust your political stances so as to not be hypocritical, dumbass.
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Dogger
February 2, 2010 6:38 PM
Given that Republicans have no hesitation about lying to everyone and anyone, that is an odd time for Sanford to choose honesty.
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ohyeathatsright
February 2, 2010 6:48 PM in reply to Dogger
I'll give him credit. It shows honesty before his god. Fits the C-street mentality perfectly. Everyone else is expendable.
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slb
February 2, 2010 6:53 PM in reply to ohyeathatsright
Also shows some interesting things about his character. Lying to his wife and kids, to the people working for him, to the people who supported him -- does he think his God is OK with that so long as he didn't lie when he took his wedding vows?
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ariseatex
February 2, 2010 6:55 PM in reply to slb
The short answer is probably yes.
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Dogger
February 2, 2010 8:30 PM in reply to slb
The larger question is why do Republicans think that their many, many other lies do not offend God?
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Calouste
February 2, 2010 7:02 PM in reply to ohyeathatsright
Must be about the only time Sanford was honest. And there is also that pesky little thing called the 9th Commandment, which would suggest that his god really cares if he lies to others or not.
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Cal Gal
February 3, 2010 1:13 AM in reply to ohyeathatsright
I guess he took adultery out of the Ten Commandments, too, huh?
I think his God is still not happy. For God (if you're a Christian) what's in the Ten Commandments trumps whatever is in your marriage vows.
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ohyeathatsright
February 3, 2010 2:56 PM in reply to Cal Gal
And bearing false witness, and murder, and false idols, and making themselves idols...
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SqueakyRat
February 4, 2010 12:09 AM in reply to Cal Gal
Committing adultery only applies to women. God told me.
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Why oh why
February 2, 2010 6:54 PM
Nobody could have predicted...
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Kuyleh
February 2, 2010 6:58 PM
And she still married him? I won't say she had it coming, because noone deserves what she's going through, but...That should have been a huge warning sign.
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ariseatex
February 2, 2010 7:02 PM in reply to Kuyleh
I once quit my depression meds because my boyfriend at the time likened it to being addicted to meth. Love will make you do stupid shit.
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Ben Franklin
February 2, 2010 7:02 PM
I continue to scratch my head, asking myself why TPM is so interested in pointless stories about republican infidelity. And as the TOP FRONT PAGE STORY?
What's even more puzzling is why they think their readers want to hear about this crap.
Does TPM believe their readers are sex gossip-crazed idiots?
Stop this crap.
Have you ever seen Glenn Greenwald print stupid gossip like this?
No, because he's a real journalist, and he respects his readers.
Why am I wasting time at TPM when I could be reading more Greenwald?
Just please stop this stupid shit.
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rynato
February 2, 2010 7:04 PM in reply to Ben Franklin
I don't mind reading this here. If you want Greenwald, go read Greenwald.
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Ben Franklin
February 2, 2010 7:10 PM in reply to rynato
I'm less confused now. Apparently TPM's readers DO want to be treated like idiots. Thanks.
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SchoolyT
February 2, 2010 7:33 PM in reply to Ben Franklin
BF, if you haven't been paying attention to US politics for the last coupla decades, politics of personal destruction are real and often have consequences. You may think a particular detail is droll, but it can definitely shape opinions and translate to the ballot box. At one point, "family values" and "character counts" were held out as reasons for voters to elect candidates over their competition. Seeing the rest of the story unfold is of note, especially to those of us who remember and can put it in context.
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Signalman
February 2, 2010 8:58 PM in reply to SchoolyT
What SchoolyT said.
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davewtf
February 2, 2010 9:49 PM in reply to SchoolyT
I second that, as there is no "like" button.
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Equal Opportunity Cynic
February 3, 2010 5:05 AM in reply to SchoolyT
The problem is, those voters who are capable of remembering the context and using it to interpret sordid details of Sanford's infidelity are the same voters who weren't likely supporting his "family values" positions in the first place.
To put it another way, Republican hypocrisy doesn't really change the votes of those who were already predisposed to vote Republican. For all their insistence that character matters, when it comes to the individual candidates, it really doesn't.
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SqueakyRat
February 4, 2010 12:12 AM in reply to SchoolyT
This guy was being seriously talked about as a presidential candidate. There's no reason to let up on him.
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ariseatex
February 2, 2010 7:06 PM in reply to Ben Franklin
The moment he ran on a family values ticket designed to impose "morality" on others, his personal life became a political issue. He brought this coverage on himself by demonstrating the unrealistic and hypocritical nature of socially conservative political stances.
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Ben Franklin
February 2, 2010 7:13 PM in reply to ariseatex
I agree. Hypocrisy should be exposed. But it's already been exposed. How does THIS detail further anything that matters in our political lives?
This is just bait for fucking dumbasses. If you don't hold TPM to a higher standard, they'll just keep going lower. Just like they have been for years.
I blame Josh Marshall more than anyone else. Probably the dollar signs in his eyes clouding up his journalistic vision.
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ariseatex
February 2, 2010 7:27 PM in reply to Ben Franklin
This shows that the woman in Argentina wasn't a "one-time lapse"; he had been considering lying to his wife for years. How can he be honest with the people when he can't even be honest at home?
I care about all of these updates because thanks to hypocrites like him, I'm not allowed to marry my partner in 45 of 50 states. Thanks to hypocrites like him, I have to fight to even be allowed into the military. The moment he came into my bedroom, I lost all qualms about entering his.
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kenner
February 2, 2010 9:44 PM in reply to ariseatex
Second. Hypocrisy is damaging to the country and to families.
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serge
February 2, 2010 10:41 PM in reply to ariseatex
"...he had been considering lying to his wife for years." Considering...he had been doing. I live a few blocks from Sanford's beach house, and I have an old friend who is one of Sanford's closest BFFs.
I cannot believe that Miss Argentina was his first venture onto the shifting sands of infidelity. And her disingenuous "how could I have known?" sounds a little too pat. She ain't stupid, in fact I think she has probably been the brains in the family. At least she wasn't thinking with her dick.
I think he embarrassed her, in too public a fashion, and she's now handing his ass to him, one cheek at a time.
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tsk, tsk
February 3, 2010 2:54 AM in reply to Ben Franklin
Your language, your choice of words and your repeated references to how awful you believe this site to be all beg the question: Why are you still here, obviously reading articles that disturb you and lowering the discourse that follows with your poor choice of words?
You are not Ben Franklin; you're not even close.
Man up, grow a pair, change your fake name and be gone.
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Ben Franklin
February 3, 2010 9:34 AM in reply to tsk, tsk
Let me see if I can pry your tiny brain open and cram this into it: just because I don't like something that a website publishes doesn't mean I think the entire website is shit. There are some good things at TPM, which is why I still visit. But, increasingly, there's useless tabloid gossip like this - gossip that does absolutely nothing to improve the state of this country or our lives or even so much as serve a positive example of how progressives choose to conduct ourselves.
Just compare, for example, this "report" on what Mark Sanford wanted his wedding vows to say (he said/she said gossip that's impossible to verify but not important anyway) to just about anything Greenwald has written in the past, oh, 2 years.
Hey Progressives! We just got our fucking ASSES handed to us in the health care debate by the right. They're laughing and pointing at us while celebrating victory while we jerk off in a little circle to "reports" like this.
But I'm the one who needs to grow up. Okay.
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Mooser
February 3, 2010 11:38 AM in reply to Ben Franklin
Can you grasp the fact that it is very significant what Sanford wanted his wedding vows to say? First of all, the amazing presumption it took to think that his editing the vows changes the actual legal framework in which matrimony resides. Turns out, what do you know, that no matter what he coerced his wife into saying, adultery is grounds for divorce, huh?
And a guy who will lie to a person he loves, concerning a contract he uis entering into voluntarily, cannot be trusted on any level. Why are you so afraid of acknowledging that?
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Ben Franklin
February 3, 2010 1:34 PM in reply to Mooser
God you're fucking stupid. No wonder our side is getting crushed. Keep on diddling yourself to this brainless horseshit.
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Signalman
February 3, 2010 5:59 PM in reply to Ben Franklin
How fortunate we are to have you here on this site with us.
/snark
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Ben Franklin
February 3, 2010 7:41 PM in reply to Signalman
Snark is supposed to be humorous. Where was the humor?
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Signalman
February 3, 2010 7:55 PM in reply to Ben Franklin
Clearly it went right over your head, smart guy.
Shall I break it down into one- and two-syllable words for you?
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Andreams
February 2, 2010 7:42 PM in reply to Ben Franklin
Duh, apparently it interested you enough to both read and comment.
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Cal Gal
February 3, 2010 1:14 AM in reply to Ben Franklin
Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.
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Ben Franklin
February 3, 2010 1:28 AM in reply to Cal Gal
Okay, I won't. I'll go somewhere else and, you know, learn about shit that matters.
Have fun reading all the juicy sex gossip. It really brings status to this website and its readers.
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hollywood
February 3, 2010 2:23 AM in reply to Ben Franklin
Just keep commenting fool ..... it is what you DO not what you SAY......
The larger context is that conservatives are liars and hypocrites writ large. I cannot get married at all in California because these holier than thou types consider marriage to be SACRED! OOOH SACRED!
Fuck you all in your fucking head! I am sooooo tired of being second class watching first class assholes lie, cheat, and steal.
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Ben Franklin
February 3, 2010 9:24 AM in reply to hollywood
Keep pretending that this "report" has anything to do with furthering gay rights if it makes you feel better.
Maybe a big reason why gays still don't have the rights they deserve is that liberals waste their fucking time diddling ourselves to horseshit like this.
Guess we aren't that much better than the people who wanted to talk about the cum stains on Monica's dress for 2 years.
Oh well.
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hollywood
February 3, 2010 1:31 PM in reply to Ben Franklin
Just keep commenting fool ........ for someone who does not care, you sure seem to care.
This speaks exactly to gay rights. The conservative religious right wing that denies basic human rights to so many people in this country are complete and blatant hypocrites on issues of marriage and this example is exactly what people need to get into their small minds.
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nova voter
February 3, 2010 7:22 AM in reply to Ben Franklin
ironically, i'm pretty sure the real ben franklin would have loved this story. actually, he probably would have been on the plane with sanford, excited to sample some fine argentine action. that lazy slut couldn't keep it in his pants.
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Mooser
February 3, 2010 11:42 AM in reply to Ben Franklin
"Have fun reading all the juicy sex gossip. It really brings status to this website and its readers."
So you are saying that marriage is about two consenting adults having sex, and is none of our business? Now there's a deeply ethical view of the blessed state.
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Mooser
February 3, 2010 9:59 AM in reply to Ben Franklin
Nobody reads Greenwald, they just check over there to see what I wrote in "comments".
Fidelity has never been an issue in my marital meringue. About a year after I got married, I found out my wife shot her first husband, because he didn't get the can out to the curb on time.
Imagine what she would do if I strayed!
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georgecs
February 2, 2010 7:03 PM
I like the way she conveniently glosses over her complicity in this little fiasco. "We were young and in love."
As my Aunt Bessie used to say, "My ass."
Jenny Sanford was an opportunistic, ambitious social climbing shrew who saw Mark Sanford as her chance to jump from mere riches as an investment banker to the ruling classes. She let hubby get away with removing the fidelity part of their marriage vows because she didn't care - she had another bigger agenda in mind. And I guarantee she knew about his screwing around for years, but again, looked the other way because she didn't want to upset her agenda. It was only when he shoved his affair in her face that she had no choice but to take off.
Takes two to tango Jenny. Hope you enjoyed the dance.
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LAB
February 2, 2010 7:22 PM
She is the epitome of poor little rich girl. Best of luck, Jenny, for finding your way.
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DarcyDancer
February 2, 2010 7:32 PM
Desperate woman marries ruthless man. These are usually trailer park stories or country songs. How could he even bring it up!
"Ah, sweetheart, ah, do you mind, I mean AFTER the ceremony of course, if I hit on your 2nd cousin. Told me she loves champagne and, well, hate to pass up the opportunity. You know, being so young and all...OK, buttercup"! Even for me this is sooo weird.
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jeffgee
February 2, 2010 7:56 PM
Fidelity is part of ANY traditional wedding vows, "forsaking all others", but Mark thinks he's above all those rules because the Family says God has chosen his path for him, so he's powerless if Little Mark wants to go hiking on the Argentinian tail.
But he's all in favor of traditional marriage for other people, as long as they aren't gay.
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fkaZk0sm0
February 3, 2010 9:09 AM in reply to jeffgee
this was my first thought as well.
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Truff
February 2, 2010 8:07 PM
I bet John Edwards is kicking himself for not thinking of this first. He could have deleted the "in sickness and in health" AND the fidelity clause of his marriage vows...
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jim43
February 2, 2010 8:15 PM
There's your Republican family values. Women can't work or get abortions but the men can refuse to promise they won't cheat!
http://www.sunstateactivist.org/ssablog
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Rich in NJ
February 2, 2010 8:17 PM
I think Ms. Sanford has comported herself with more dignity than any of the other wives of politicians that have been publicly embarrassed by their husbands.
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Harry Truman
February 2, 2010 8:44 PM
The two of them are as shallow as a birdbath.
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bluesplashy
February 2, 2010 8:53 PM in reply to Harry Truman
And your avatar isn't?
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Signalman
February 2, 2010 8:59 PM in reply to bluesplashy
Looks to me like *both* your avatars involve hooters. So what's your point?
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bluesplashy
February 2, 2010 10:05 PM in reply to Signalman
That's funny.
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Duck Stab
February 2, 2010 9:02 PM
Oh well, I bet she had high limits on her credit cards and a good doctor to keep her Valium scrips up to date.
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Gigi
February 2, 2010 9:31 PM
Why in the world does BF read TPM? So typical of repubnutz, he doesn't want to read this, but he MUST, because we stoopud Libs read it. What a jerk!
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Massenois
February 3, 2010 7:12 AM in reply to Gigi
I think its guilt. They know by being a Republican you are morally bankrupt, and the reality of the GOP lifestyle goes against the grain of the way you may have been raised. For example the most irritating to me: "thou shall not bear false witness". They can't be so stupid as to believe some of their shit, so daily they violate ten commandments. They know they must be punished. Reading us pains them, and it goes directly to their sins. They read liberal stuff in seeking redemption from their hollow, hate filled,hypocritical, GOP life.
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Ben Franklin
February 3, 2010 9:48 AM in reply to Gigi
I love the classic tactic of accusing someone you disagree with of being a conservative troll. God it's so beautiful in its lameness.
It's so much easier than, oh, addressing the argument that I made.
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a SC mom
February 2, 2010 10:10 PM
i wish i hadn't moved to SC in 2002....this state is effed up.
all you have to do in this state is say you asked the Lord, Jesus for forgiveness and all is well. sigh....
i noticed this recent arrest for Spartanburg, SC's GOP Clerk of Court for selling drugs:
http://www.foxcarolina.com/news/22412808/detail.html
more detail
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2010/2/2/1664/59074
sad....
i wanna move, but can't....
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DarcyDancer
February 2, 2010 10:51 PM in reply to a SC mom
U can do it SC Mom. Moved to NC 2 mo ago after 3 yrs in L.A
(Lower AL). Wow, what a difference, plus your kids will actually get an education. Had a friend in TN. Said when he traveled to SC he thought he had to get a passport, that's how bad it is there. Bible-Belters can really wear yea down.
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tiigerrick
February 2, 2010 10:52 PM in reply to a SC mom
I left the state in 1998. I love my alma mater, but I never warmed up to the state.
By the way...with all of the books available for one's reading pleasure, why would anyone buy this particular book?
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Grumpy Demo
February 3, 2010 12:18 AM
Why does no one in the media point out that if you'ra a godless moral relativist Democrat adultery ends your career vs. the GOP, Party of God and family values, it seems to almost enhance your career, see Newit, Vintner, Ensign, Burton, Craig?
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hollywood
February 3, 2010 1:48 PM in reply to Grumpy Demo
Good question! The answer might just be that the republican christian party is just a bunch of complete hypocrites! Do as I say and not as I do. Larry Craig really takes the cake here. He was in a public bathroom trying to get a young cute undercover cop to put his boner in Larry's mouth and yet the republican christian party just let's it pass because Larry has a "wife" and he says of course he is not GAY! Perfect example of christian right wing family values!
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GregorZap
February 3, 2010 1:03 AM
He didn't want to promise to be faithful and then he wasn't.
Who saw that coming?!?!?
Just proves that love IS blind, is all.
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cassady
February 3, 2010 1:27 AM
Ok, so lemme get this straight:
1989 - Refuses to take vow to be faithful to his wife.
1998 - Votes to impeach Clinton for being unfaithful to his wife.
2008 - Is unfaithful to his wife.
Douche.
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ohyeathatsright
February 3, 2010 2:35 PM in reply to cassady
My guess is that he was unfaithful for much longer.
2008 - He got caught.
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readytoblowagasket
February 3, 2010 1:35 AM
Who the fuck cares about his wedding vows? He's still the governor after going AWOL.
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Massenois
February 3, 2010 7:03 AM
This guy thinks he is "Joe Ball Sac". You run into this type of ass at community golf tourneys, civic events etc. Always chairman of this or that and some kind of business man, like car dealership.(Come on Down to Sanford Chevrolet and get a used Hummer, eh eh). In high school he was "Joe Jock Strap" the towel snapping rah rah jerk off president of key club or such shite. Ah fuck it I will go have a beer the joe six pack I be.
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commie atheist
February 3, 2010 11:14 AM in reply to Massenois
Like I said, he had his good qualities. Bu he wasn't a saint:
http://www.americanheritage.com/articles/magazine/ah/1991/7/1991_7_55.shtml
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commie atheist
February 3, 2010 11:44 AM in reply to Massenois
Damn. Sorry, replied to the wrong comment. Again.
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social nature
February 3, 2010 8:10 AM
Why is this TMZ-style story the banner headline story at TPM?
That Republican or far-right male politicians are sexual hypocrites and lying bastards hardly amounts to news.
Feeling superior isn't going to get health care done or move Obama one iota further to the left.
Next.
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hollywood
February 3, 2010 1:53 PM in reply to social nature
Well again, for millions of gay Americans whose hopes and dreams for the future are crushed by the incredible hypocrisy of these right wing family values politicians, this story is exactly what needs to get into the public mind. Marriage is as 'sacred' as you want it to be. Straight or Gay.
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IMNOTBITTER
February 3, 2010 9:10 AM
Mark Sanford.........Just a pretified Lonesome Roads, Can't believe these yahoos fall for these guys.
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threesmommy
February 3, 2010 12:37 PM
Josh: Your headlines crack me up.
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sawgrass
February 3, 2010 1:44 PM
This is an odd story is so many ways. If Sanford expected to commit adultery, why signal it by changing the vows? And why bother to change the vows; if he's going have an illicit affair, he's going to lie about it anyway--as he actually did. And what fiancee would abide such an important change to a verbal contract...unless she had her own reasons for excluding the vow. Assuming this story is even true, it doesn't reflect well on either of them. Maybe she's like her ex-husband in that she doesn't know when to lay low and be quiet either
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Tosh
April 28, 2010 1:12 PM
I agree. Hypocrisy should be exposed. But it's already been exposed. How does THIS detail further anything that matters in our political lives?
This is just bait for fucking dumbasses. If you don't hold TPM to a higher standard, they'll just keep going lower. Just like they have been for years.
I blame Josh Marshall more than anyone else. Probably the dollar signs in his eyes clouding up his journalistic vision.
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