Last night, Jon Stewart, er, called out the blogosphere for using overblown adjectives to describe his segments: "If you just followed this show on the blogs, you would think I was running around town cutting people from scrotum to sternum, wearing their skin as a trophy."
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Astroboy
February 5, 2010 1:10 PM
He makes a very valid point.
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dougom
February 5, 2010 8:02 PM in reply to Astroboy
He almost always does.
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mcrose68
February 5, 2010 1:19 PM
You need to understand : the Fox News audience memebers are such thin skinned babies, that mild criticism is the equivelent of cutting tehm from scrotum to sternum.
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Clavis
February 5, 2010 1:33 PM in reply to mcrose68
True. When you are an authoritarian who has an emotional relationship with one's own in-group, any criticism of that in-group by an outsider, no matter how good-natured or grounded in compassion and solid fact, instantly becomes a ruthless attack by evil partisan scum.
Think about your average patriotic American was "supposed" to respond, during the height of the Cold War, to a Russian criticism of America -- with unhesitating, sneering contempt and vitriol.
It's the same thing with these right-wing authoritarians. That POS Reagan pointed out their strategy with his 11th commandment, which essentially translated to "Put party before country". They are not loyal, patriotic Americans. They are parasites who use America's freedoms to enrich themselves to the detriment of the country.
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hbobrien
February 5, 2010 4:26 PM in reply to Clavis
"That POS Reagan pointed out their strategy with his 11th commandment, which essentially translated to "Put party before country"."
The irony, of course, as anyone who knew Reagan is aware, is he meant it ironically. As usual with cults, those who use Reagan's name in vain don't get the joke.
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farnsworth
February 5, 2010 5:56 PM in reply to hbobrien
So this is something Reagan said before his brain turned to mush?
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hbobrien
February 6, 2010 9:11 PM in reply to farnsworth
Not possible, or so those who've payed golf with Reagan during his film days have told me. His brain was always slightly mushy, hence the 3x5 cards. One time, a staffer was uninformed enough to put the word "paradigm," in one of Reagan's speeches. Reagan, predictably, read it off the teleprompter and pronounced it, "para-dij'm."
That said, though, Reagan saw himself as a Huck Finn-like scamp, and was prone to "stretchers." See Ronald Reagan's Reign of Error by Mark J. Green, Gail S. MacColl, a 1987 precursor to Slate's "Bushisms" schtick.
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hbobrien
February 6, 2010 9:12 PM in reply to hbobrien
"Played," not "payed." Grr.
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DugFmJamul
February 5, 2010 7:52 PM in reply to Clavis
Wow, another poster with a clear head...that makes two!
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DugFmJamul
February 5, 2010 8:02 PM in reply to mcrose68
Yea right like Liberals are models of tolerance and free speech.
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JNagarya
February 6, 2010 8:37 AM in reply to DugFmJamul
Stop being a bigotted ass: there are things which are NOT tolerable, and Liberals know it, and don't claim otherwise. An example is FASCISM: you WON'T find Liberals tolerating it because it is intolerable.
So that smear you just slung redounds to you as egg on your face.
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Judicator
February 6, 2010 1:22 PM in reply to JNagarya
Right, so the point stands, Liberals are very tolerant, except when people express views they don't like. The whole point of tolerance is you tolerate things which you find extremely offensive, like Nazi protests. Otherwise you're just picking and choosing what you count as "free speech" and that's hardly tolerance.
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JNagarya
February 7, 2010 2:23 PM in reply to Judicator
Did I say you couldn't express your fascist views? No, I did not. That is not the same as being intolerant against fascism. Or are you incapable of distinguishing between speech and action?
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DugFmJamul
February 6, 2010 4:18 PM in reply to JNagarya
No one is asking Liberals to tolerate fascism or injustice but in your quest for a Utopian society you and your ilk are becoming the thing that you say you despise.
Liberals and Progressives seem to have a hard time with the above concept.
Conservatives are now the champions of free speech and Liberals are now the guardians of limited speech which they destroy the individual instead of the argument presented.
Your bellicose post to me just makes my point quite clear thank you very much!
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JNagarya
February 7, 2010 2:26 PM in reply to DugFmJamul
No one is asking Liberals to tolerate fascism or injustice but in your quest for a Utopian society you and your ilk are becoming the thing that you say you despise.
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Were I a utopian I'd be a "Libertarian". Instead, and in direct opposition thereto, I believe in the rule of law.
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jonnienohands
February 11, 2010 7:55 AM in reply to DugFmJamul
"Freedom is the freedom to say two plus two equals four, that granted all else follows"
This is a George Orwell quote, you failed to give proper attribution. You are a serial plagiarist, you have admitted to doing it to deceive the readers of your posts.
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notesandbeats
February 5, 2010 1:40 PM
Small point: Most of those were overblown verbs, not adjectives.
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dndobson
February 5, 2010 10:11 PM in reply to notesandbeats
Small Point? No that's HUGE.
I believe you have eviscerated Jillian.
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JohnMcCSF
February 5, 2010 1:59 PM
HuffPo's 40 point type screaming headlines win the prize
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nimh
February 6, 2010 7:14 AM in reply to JohnMcCSF
As opposed to TPM's screaming 30 point type headlines?
Seriously, I would have hoped for some acknowledgement from TPM in this post that you know what? He's talking about this website too.
I visit TPM pretty much every day because it has a lot of fast-moving, on-topics breaking news and info. But this site also just tires me out with its screeching headlines and alternatingly alarmist and triumphalist slants. It gives me a headache. Take Jon Stewart's cue, TPM, and tone it down a little - we're smart people, we can recognize that something is important or worrying without you screaming into our face about it.
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jward
February 6, 2010 12:33 PM in reply to nimh
Yeah I agree completely. I check TPM, Plumline and Political Wire. Nearly everyday there is some alarmist crap, e.g. Obama saying IF Health Care doesn't pass, the voters may not support Democrats in the fall--changed to "Obama GIVES UP on Health Care!!"
This is why I completely stopped checking Huffington Post months ago.
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Sailormarlowe
February 5, 2010 2:59 PM
Titters & tee-hees all around from fanny fans of "Jon Stewart".
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WaitWut?
February 5, 2010 3:23 PM in reply to Sailormarlowe
Unlike the drooling and sputtering of FOX fanatics.
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Friction
February 5, 2010 2:59 PM
I loved this clip, wisdom served with a laugh
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WaitWut?
February 5, 2010 3:21 PM
"running around town cutting people from scrotum to sternum, wearing their skin as a trophy"
I think I'll keep that visual in my head all day. It makes me happy.
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JEP07
February 5, 2010 3:33 PM
Headlines are an art form.
http://www.unclejosh.com/littlestinker
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TJ21
February 5, 2010 3:46 PM
I started noticing the whole hyperbole thing back during the bizarre Jim Cramer crusade, but I sort of just took it as standard after that. I expect this latest tirade will actually effect change though. Thank you Jon!
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Cujo359
February 5, 2010 3:49 PM
Well, yes, we exaggerate a little. I'm just wondering what we'll write if Rachel Maddow actually does eviscerate someone.
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dougom
February 5, 2010 8:02 PM in reply to Cujo359
She's done it already; go back to the appropriate date and see what was said.
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Tim
February 5, 2010 4:01 PM
Anyone else not surprised that more of those headlines came from Huffington Post than anywhere else? Surprised? No, I didn't think so.
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TJ21
February 5, 2010 5:55 PM in reply to Tim
I'm not. I can't be too critical since I'm an avid reader and fan, but it's had an increasing tendency to jump the shark (see: Joe Biden should resign).
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jward
February 6, 2010 1:09 PM
TPM front page right now "Obama: Congress May Drop the Ball on Health Care"
This headline distorts and largely down-plays what Obama actually said. It does, however, sensationalize it.
Personally what I want to know is information dug up by investigative journalism. For example--who is the Parlimentarian right now? What's the history of that role? If the Democrats used the path that keeps being suggested to pass Health Care, will the Parlimentarian pass on it? Will the Congressional Budget Office be involved again? Do you think that Congress is on track to do jobs first, and then health and then finances, or finances and then health, or both together? When, and if, Franken blew up at Axelrod what was the actual atmosphere in the room? Who else in the room said what and how do we know? Might Reid is waiting on health care til a recess is coming up in order to squeeze debate/filibuster time? How does that work? If he is, and can do that, would that be in March, and if so when?
Just a few questions off the top of my head.
Come on--inform us.
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eevinko
February 6, 2010 2:39 PM
Sorry dude but that Stewart dude is WAY too full of himself!
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helibike
February 6, 2010 2:47 PM
Any of you out there who still consider yourselves "conservative" and you actually believe in what Bill pinhead O'Reilly has to say, you are either just plain stupid, or insane, or full of it, with some alternative intention. The writing is on the wall. Your talking points are no longer valid. America has talked itself to death over so many of the important issues for 10 years now. Common sense does not allow you much of a ground to stand on in your arguments so you chose attack and switch the arena of debate techniques to attempt to look like you're also making a valid point. You would be judged the loser in any high school civics debate class. Unfortunately, we don't live in a world where there is a final judge but instead the never ending stream of interprestaion, reporting, and opinion, by the news media, which has largely become a propaganda tool in order to skew the truth, and good debate, in order to derail what the "liberal" side wants which is unltimately just a solution to America and it's citizens problems. And, why, you ask would anyone want to do that? Because we live in a modern oligarchy, and the elite's have near perfected the way to perserve their power against those who want to challenge it for the sake of the good of the greater population and country as a whole. The CIA is the same thing as Knights of the Round Table. For King and Country is still not too far off the mark of a description for our modern society. It's just a lot bigger, and a lot more abstract, but go work for any larger engineering, development, law firm, large corporation of any kind, insurance co., accounting - finance co., brokerage, banks, etc. and you will see quickly, the human mind is capable of grasping all kinds of abstract realities and doing what it takes to survive within the system. You can sell Nazism to anyone if you can get most everyone to go along.
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DanD1
February 6, 2010 7:32 PM
TPM disingenuously posts: Jon Stewart Disembowels, Eviscerates, Then Destroys The Blogosphere.
John Stewart is a cynical commedian, in much (a much more minor) same way as was Will Rogers. Ninety-five percent of Stewart's commentary involves the ideologically defined criticism of alternative (to him) points of view. Nearly all his "solutions" are of the unspoken, self-evident sort.
Now, the "Blogosphere" is a global behemoth where -- ultimately -- John Stewart is a little less than a microscopic pissant. By not qualifying Stewart's disemboweling eviscerations, logically, the sponsor of this particular missive simply guts himself. Whether or not Stewart's cheerleading TPM'ers prefer to recognize this denotes volumes about their own disingenuity.
DanD
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follow the money
February 7, 2010 12:55 AM
fox news has almost every republican presidential candidate on its payroll:
http://crooksandliars.com/john-amato/fox-news-has-almost-every-republican-pr
about fox news..
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patmcgrowen
February 7, 2010 2:45 PM in reply to follow the money
It won't be long until we elect Presidents like we do our American Idol's. Again a great idea to spoof on Daily Show, Colbert, and SNL. It is going to take comedy shows to shed the right light on Fox and that is they are a joke that fools believe in. But if they are not stopped and called out, they will take over our politics more than they already have. I think a poll just showed them to be "the most trusted" news. Just a couple of months ago they were called out, by none other than Jon Stewart, for misrepresenting crowd sizes with incorrect footage. Remember the crickets from Corporate Media, if not for Jon Stewart, it would've never been called out. They have promoted Tea Parties and are preparing to crown their new leader Sarah "cheat notes" Palin. They must be stopped.
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Anonymous
February 7, 2010 2:12 AM
John Stewart is a cynical commedian, in much (a much more minor) same EVE Isk way as was Will Rogers. Ninety-five percent of Stewart's commentary involves the ideologically defined criticism of alternative (to him) Dofus Kamas points of view. Nearly all his "solutions" are of the unspoken, self-evident sort.
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mnashp
February 7, 2010 8:59 AM
i think his point was hyperbole! don't you love the irony? It seems hyperbole does not confine itself to the other side... ;-)
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Jaymay
February 7, 2010 2:36 PM
Just on confirm, we are commenting about the tone of a comedy show commenting on blogs which are commenting on said comedy show which is satirizing a news show?
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ivy22
February 8, 2010 10:07 AM in reply to Jaymay
Yes, I think you've got it. What was the topic again?
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