
Rep. Paul Broun (R-GA) has something of a reputation for saying outrageous things. So it's no surprise he found a pretty good line to deliver now, during the critical final stage of the health care debate.
Speaking on the House floor last night, Broun said:
If Obamacare passes, that free insurance card that's in people's pockets is going to be as worthless as a Confederate dollar after the war between the states -- the Great War of Yankee Aggression.
Watch:
(H/T Media Matters)
cambridgeMR
March 19, 2010 11:40 AM
What "free insurance card?"
It's amazing how the Republicans talk about the bill they would like to oppose rather than the actual bill.
This is why they always win. They know that the facts don't matter. Emotions matter. Framing matters. Fear matters.
Democrats try to engage people in policy discussions. Republicans just tell people that the government is coming to kill them.
Is it any wonder that the Republicans make a stronger impression?
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Frank Pentangeli
March 19, 2010 1:06 PM in reply to cambridgeMR
Why does that surprise you? They run against the Democrat they want to run against every four years, rather than their opponent.
Every election cycle, the Democrat is "the most dangerous liberal ever (TM)." It's how Bill Clinton can be more liberal than Mike Dukakis.
Every Democrat is Abbie Hoffman. That's because the Republicans understand how marketing and campaigning works: take negative things you know people think about Democrats and turn your opponent into that, no matter how it stretches credulity.
Republicans are still running against Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton's penis. Anyone want to hazard a guess at how often George W. Bush and Dick Cheney will be mentioned this cycle.
Not that many.
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midnight rambler
March 19, 2010 8:55 PM in reply to Frank Pentangeli
Jimmy Carter? Hell, they're still running against George McGovern and the three A's - acid, amnesty, and abortion.
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_jonny_5_
March 19, 2010 1:09 PM in reply to cambridgeMR
I fault the media more than the republicans. Repubs are just doing what they know will work.
It's the media that isn't calling them out on it that is the problem.
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Rick Shreiner
March 19, 2010 11:10 PM in reply to _jonny_5_
Bang, hit that nail right smack on the head, with a sledge hammer.
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monel9959
March 20, 2010 9:42 AM in reply to _jonny_5_
So correct. You could almost admire the rightie's deftness at framing the issues until you look at the audience they target and then it all becomes clear.
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pv2k
March 21, 2010 10:49 AM in reply to _jonny_5_
I didn't know you could separate the two.
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Lonesome Otter
March 19, 2010 11:41 AM
"the great war of yankee aggression"....didn't the rebs fire the first shot in that war...at Ft Sumter?...general by the name of Beauregard?
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Matt Jones
March 19, 2010 12:31 PM in reply to Lonesome Otter
As if facts would matter to an ignorant toolbag like Rep. Broun. In his version, the North started the war because they hated freedom. :)
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storm
March 19, 2010 12:42 PM in reply to Matt Jones
I thought it had something to do with the freedom fry famine.
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salame
March 19, 2010 11:45 AM
And there you have it.
Having lived in both SC and GA, I can tell you for a fact that they are still fighting the "injustices" done to them by Lincoln, the yankees, the federal government and black people. They have always had as their motto, "The south will rise again."
Who knew that they could come so close? But you can never count out the pervasive seduction of capiltalizing on fear, the "other", and the delegitimizing of a black President to bring every neo-nazi, racisit, brain dead ender into the arms of these fine southern ladies and gentlement.
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ericf
March 19, 2010 12:35 PM in reply to salame
It's hard for many Americans to believe neo-confederates are real. Tanks Broun for making that clear. From his tone, he sounded serious.
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Nowukkers
March 19, 2010 4:39 PM in reply to ericf
That, my friends, is the face of a cracker. Unless it's a horse's ass.
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Leftflank
March 19, 2010 5:21 PM in reply to Nowukkers
Differentiate please, & thank you.
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AmericanDad
March 20, 2010 1:14 AM in reply to salame
I heard a comedian tell a story of doing standup in a club in Georgia. In the middle of the set, some cracker in the back jumps to his feet and shouts "Whooooo-weeee! The South will do it agin!"
The comedian asked, "Do what? Start a war and lose? Or start a war to enslave people?"
I think we may have identified that guy.
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AmericanDad
March 20, 2010 1:17 AM in reply to salame
I heard a comedian tell a story of doing standup in a club in Georgia. In the middle of the set, some cracker in the back jumps to his feet and shouts "Whooooo-weeee! The South will do it agin!"
The comedian asked, "Do what? Start a war and lose? Or start a war to enslave people?"
I think we may have identified that guy.
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Pete Bilderback
March 19, 2010 11:58 AM
I see the similarity too: Broun's side lost both times.
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GTFOOH
March 19, 2010 12:23 PM
Much like the ass kicking confederates got in that Great War of Yankee Aggression, they can line up to lick their wounds in Yankee ERs all across America, after Health Care passes for the rest of us!
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BluGrass
March 19, 2010 12:23 PM
24 hours after Obama signs HCR, Broun's office will be doing constituent service, impatiently advocating for more and more benefits from this program for folks in his district. Just watch.
Oh, and by the way, anybody in Georgia knows that the War of Yankee Aggression started when Union Army shore batteries in Charleston began relentless shelling of Union Army emplacements on Ft. Sumter, in the harbor. Right?
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Swift63
March 19, 2010 2:47 PM in reply to BluGrass
OMG: then the Yankees put explosives inside Sumter, to pretend they had been destroyed by the Confederates? Call the Truthers!
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BluGrass
March 19, 2010 4:00 PM in reply to Swift63
You got it! Also, Lincoln had a secretary named Kennedy, and Ted Kennedy was a big supporter of Health Care Reform (and let's not even mention his brother and the Cuban connection in Dallas on the Grassy Knoll), so, when you look at what's happening right now in Washington with health care.... well, you don't have to be a brain surgeon to see there's pretty much a straight line from Obama to the cause of the War of Northern States' Aggression!
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Brownbagger
March 19, 2010 12:26 PM
There are basically three types of Repugs. Those who pander to ignorant racists, those who are ignorant racists, and those who know better but have not the courage to condemn the other two. Cowards all.
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Brownbagger
March 19, 2010 12:40 PM in reply to Brownbagger
If you grew up in the South as I did, you went to a segregated school, and you were in fact taught it was the War of Northern Agression over states rights and had nothing whatever to do with slavery. And at football games, they played Dixie and everyone stood.
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lousgirl84
March 19, 2010 3:25 PM in reply to Brownbagger
And how did you manage to turn out so well given the b/s you were fed growing up? Kudos to you.
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Brownbagger
March 19, 2010 4:18 PM in reply to lousgirl84
Well, it sounded like complete bullshit at the time, I had sane parents, and I managed to wrangle a scholarship to a liberal arts college. If you have a liberal mind and a sense of humor, the south is a nice place to live.
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MoCrash
March 19, 2010 4:16 PM in reply to Brownbagger
I had a friend who grew up in Mississippi and tells of how when he got a failing grade when he answered the question of when the Civil War started with April 12, 1861, with the firing on Union Fort Sumter by the Confederate artillery in Charleston.
Who knew?
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slb
March 19, 2010 4:21 PM in reply to MoCrash
So when did the schools in Mississippi claim it started? With the election of Lincoln? I guess it really was pretty aggressive for the uppity North to elect a president that nobody in the South voted for...
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slb
March 19, 2010 4:17 PM in reply to Brownbagger
And that slaves were better off as slaves than they were as Freedmen, right? Because after all, slaves had their clothes and food and medical care all provided for them, they never had to worry about paying for any of it. I clearly remember that from my Virginia history textbooks.
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mrdufus2u
March 19, 2010 12:41 PM in reply to Brownbagger
And the worst of it is that last group is the largest.
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Brownbagger
March 19, 2010 1:33 PM in reply to mrdufus2u
Exactly. That's why they have no honor. Cowards each and every one and all their followers as well like the guys screaming and throwing dollar bills and the silent guy in the street with Parkinson's. Have you heard any Repugs denounces that spectacle? I haven't. And they wonder why we see them as repugnant.
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psyclone
March 19, 2010 12:37 PM
Excellent. The rich racists can sense their own imminent defeat then. I love it.
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InmanRoshi
March 19, 2010 12:38 PM
20% of the constituents in his district are currently uninsured.
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Barfood
March 19, 2010 12:41 PM
Floor speeches are all about making a splash. In this case, he's the turd hitting the water...
And that's "turd", not "tard". Of course, he is also f*cking retarded (satire!).
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joeinmaryland
March 19, 2010 12:44 PM
This points to the people/energy/constituiences fighting healthcare for all.
The Southern Republicans who are still fighting "mandates" from the yankees up north.
The Southern Republicans (and their nothern allies)who look down as worthless the people who do not have the same access to the perks of society that they have.
It is not surprising that the population of uninsured in the South runs from 20 to 25% of the population.
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Backcountry
March 19, 2010 12:46 PM
Yeah. Those evil Republicans and that Abra-ham Lincoln. They really suck, don't they?
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Backcountry
March 19, 2010 1:26 PM in reply to Backcountry
And one more thing about that feller Abra-ham Lincoln: Abra-haym. That's kinda a foreign soundin' name, ain't it? Anybody seen his birth certificate. Hell, maybe everything he ever did was illegal!
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jonez
March 22, 2010 5:23 AM in reply to Backcountry
Actually, when Lincoln was president the Dems were the racists. Everyone knows that. So for the present day Repukes to even bring up Lincoln's name is appalling.
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Peter Principle
March 19, 2010 1:00 PM
Great War of North Aggression? Heh. Assholes like Broun lost that war, and they're going to lose this one, too. Here comes Appomattox, baby.
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InmanRoshi
March 19, 2010 1:05 PM
So how long before FDL joins forces with him to fight off Yankee/Obama oppression (has FDL demanded to see Obama's birth certificate yet?)
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Oeno
March 19, 2010 1:19 PM
Obviously Dr. Nick Riviera wasn't the only one who went to Upstairs Hollywood Medical College.
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Michael P
March 19, 2010 1:21 PM
Comparing health care to the Civil War and calling it "The Great War of Yankee Aggression?" Desperate, borderline racist and poor grasp of history (the confederacy fired first shots to capture Fort Sumter) that's the extreme right we all know and love.
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Michael P
March 19, 2010 1:22 PM in reply to Michael P
And strike that "borderline" more like blatantly.
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blader
March 19, 2010 1:27 PM
before clicking on the link I said to myself, "Sure enough, who ever said this is from my home state of Georgia."
Sure enough
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fkaZk0sm0
March 19, 2010 1:29 PM
free insurance cards?!?!!
wow. i had no idea we were getting free insurance cards!! i'm really starting to get psyched about hcr now that i know this!!!
dumbass.
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Backcountry
March 19, 2010 1:35 PM
Seriously, though. This is the George Wallace moment of the health care debate.
Show a tape of this to his kids or grandkids in a couple of decades ... and they'll hide their faces in sheer embarrassment.
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Brownbagger
March 19, 2010 1:51 PM in reply to Backcountry
You'd think so, but it's not likely. Things have not changed all that much. The people who elect white trash cowards like Broun didn't evolve from monkies, they devolved. I have dogs with more common sense.
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Brownbagger
March 19, 2010 1:37 PM
Hmmm. Where are the trolls to defend this guy? Yooo hooo!
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draftedin68
March 19, 2010 1:49 PM
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Every single Southern American should call/write/e-mail this man's Congressional office to object to his idiocies.
The "War of Agression" is one of the top 10 myths in America, the concept of "race" being Number 1.
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Roberto57
March 19, 2010 1:56 PM
OK, I want to hear a round of secessionist talk right now! Let’s bring back the glory days of the south defending your economy that was built on the backs of your “free labor” work force.
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Brownbagger
March 19, 2010 2:09 PM in reply to Roberto57
Tour the Roseland Plantation in Louisiana and the guide will point out the lovely "servants" quarters, which have been painted pristine white and have pretty little beds and furniture like some sort of 17th century condos. The South lives in a fairyland.
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bluestatedon
March 19, 2010 2:01 PM
It appears that the large majority of white southerners still haven't gotten over the indignity of not being able to buy and sell other human beings.
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Brownbagger
March 19, 2010 2:13 PM in reply to bluestatedon
"Why them darkies are lucky we brought them outa the jungles heeya to America, the land of opportunity, bless theyah hearts. And they was happy on the homeplace 'til the wawah. But, darlin', we gonna rise again. You jes wait."
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slb
March 19, 2010 4:29 PM in reply to Brownbagger
You may think you are kidding, but that was pretty much the standard line when I was growing up. Oh, the "rise again" part was in jest then (these days, not so much), but they were serious about insisting that slavery wasn't really that bad for the people who were enslaved.
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Brownbagger
March 19, 2010 4:42 PM in reply to slb
Who's kidding? Nope, heard it many variations, many times.
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hollywood
March 19, 2010 5:28 PM in reply to Brownbagger
We just heard it from Barbara Bush when the slave population was all washed out of New Orleans in the flood. They are all better off here in the refugee camps in Texas than in the ghetto homes they lost to the gross negligence of the corrupt government in charge of the levees. I wish we had lost the Civil War and gotten the South out of our business once and for all.
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Ironcomments
March 19, 2010 2:01 PM
Look at the tyranny of party -- at what is called party allegiance, party loyalty -- a snare invented by designing men for selfish purposes -- and which turns voters into chattles, slaves, rabbits, and all the while their masters, and they themselves are shouting rubbish about liberty, independence, freedom of opinion, freedom of speech, honestly unconscious of the fantastic contradiction; and forgetting or ignoring that their fathers and the churches shouted the same blasphemies a generation earlier when they were closing their doors against the hunted slave, beating his handful of humane defenders with Bible texts and billies, and pocketing the insults and licking the shoes of his Southern master.
- "The Character of Man," Mark Twain's Autobiography
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Greg G
March 19, 2010 2:18 PM
The great War of Yankee Aggression???....For a sitting US Congressman to to describe the treason of southern racists and cowards this way is sedition...He should be sanctioned.
health care reform will pass as POTUS Obama has set it out...screw the noisy malcontents and teabaggers
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Max Thrax
March 19, 2010 2:36 PM
He's right in a way. The only thing white conservatives really care about, is keeping power out of the hands of darkies. So every time Dems take power, it's like the Civil War all over again.
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Swift63
March 19, 2010 2:45 PM
Time to remember FDR: We have nothing to fear but fear itself.
I'd like to know, exactly, how this was a War of Aggression. Lincoln said he'd allow slavery to go on and on forever in the South, and an amendment to the constitution was drafted just to guarantee it, as long as the South didn't secede, or attack the North. They still fired on Sumter, and took the field at Bull Run just a few miles outside of Washington. There was no clause in the Constitution giving a procedure for peaceful withdrawal from the Union.
Once you take arms against the constitution, you're in big trouble. Strange how Calhoun's and Stonewall Jackson's constitution is still alive, when it's lost every test, on the battlefield and in the legislature. Is this what conservatives mean when they talk about "smaller government?"
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Rich
March 19, 2010 2:45 PM
He betrays what is centraol to contemporary conservativism and the GOP: good old Southern feudalism and racism. I was happy to leave Georgia.
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OhioMan
March 19, 2010 3:05 PM
More psycho talk for the pawn people to parrot. Does a single day ever go by without some fresh example of republican idiocy? Can they just keep on doing this forever with no consequences? Sheesh.
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zonk
March 19, 2010 3:34 PM
Jeebus already.
I hate to say it, as I know plenty of good folks from Georgia, and there are thousands of southerners who hate this crap just as much as anyone... but I cannot help myself.
Did you not get the message the first time, moron?
Do we have to come back down rip more #### up?
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Leftflank
March 19, 2010 5:43 PM
Why don't these pathetic bigots proudly say exactly what they mean? If your dumb enough to believe any of this shit in the first place, then you're definitely to stupid to get vague inferences. Speak your racist hatred clearly & plainly or you just might embolden a new branch of meanies, like say, the tea-baggers.
Example: Paul Broun is an ignorant lilly white ass cracker.
P.S. Pretty unfortunate name for whitey. Is he to hateful to spell it right or to dumb?
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Veritas78
March 19, 2010 5:44 PM
Does this mean we get to do Sherman's March to the Sea again?
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artgurrl
March 19, 2010 8:41 PM
Free insurance card? I have an insurance card but it definitely was NOT free. Just for the sake of history, it was the South that started the Civil War with Sucession and then aggression. They were also the first to start firing at Soldiers at Fort Sumter in North Carolina.
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taikan
March 19, 2010 9:59 PM
Regardless of historical facts, in many schools in the South students are taught about the "War of Northern Aggression," not the "Civil War" or even the "War Between the States." It's important to remember that kids are impressionable, and if they are taught something over and over again many of them will come to believe it, even if it isn't true.
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Rick Shreiner
March 19, 2010 11:17 PM in reply to taikan
This is something I often point out. Many Americans teach their kids to hate.
Some more than others.
Some get it at school, while others get if from their parents [like this bozo Representative Paul Broun], grandparents or neighbors.
But however you look at it, denial of the true history of the Civil War, and what was behind it is perpetuating the hatred that was/is part of our racially divided heritage.
My message to Americans: don't teach you children to hate.
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JanetL
March 20, 2010 4:04 PM
A friend of mine recently received a piece of mail with a U.S. postage stamp that pictured the confederate battle flag. It was part of the "state flags" postage stamp series, and guess what the state of Mississippi has on its flag? Image here: http://www.usps.com/communications/newsroom/2009/pr09_068.htm
Regardless of what the state of Mississippi does, that flag just doesn't belong on a U.S. stamp; it would be a compelling reason to scrap the whole idea of a state flags stamp series. But in fact, it's not the first time -- there have been several other stamp series that include images of that flag, for example: http://georgiainfo.galileo.usg.edu/gaflagst.htm.
I mention this mainly to illustrate the degree to which Americans in general have accepted the Confederate version of events, and the degree to which we coddle right-wing white southerners in their delusions about what that flag actually stands for.
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greenmean
March 21, 2010 9:19 AM
What, what, what?? war of yankee aggression? and this lunatic is a congressman?
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jsdc007
March 21, 2010 6:12 PM
Seriously, you hear this crap all over the South. It's like these people still can't get over the fact that they lost the war and that the nasty, feudal, racist, medieval society they glorified came to a nasty end.
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Tosh
May 13, 2010 7:02 PM
This points to the people/energy/constituiences fighting healthcare for all.
The Southern Republicans who are still fighting "mandates" from the yankees up north.
The Southern Republicans (and their nothern allies)who look down as worthless the people who do not have the same access to the perks of society that they have.
It is not surprising that the population of uninsured in the South runs from 20 to 25% of the population.
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