Hawaii To Birthers: Stop Calling Us!

The text of the bill says it won't take effect until July 1, 2050.

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This is ridiculous.
Of course, Arizona should have disqualified John McCain because he didn't become a US Citizen until 1952.

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Charge $100 for each request. That'll put a stop to it.

I would suggest that Hawaii instead adopt a traditional Internet practice and publish a FAQ document with answers, and instruct state workers to ignore questions that already have published answers and just deal with the rest.

Yah, they should require the request to be made in person. Once the birther arrives in Hawaii and has their fill of good Korean style poke, kalua pork and weed they'll chill out and forget about all this nonsense. They should get a good Hawaiian ukulele too. It reduces stress.

Sorry to be a pedant about this, but this TPM post subtly distorts the AP report it cites in precisely the manner that the birthers complain (somewhat rightly) about.

TPM says: "According to Lorrin Kim, head of the Hawaii Department of Health's Office of Planning, Policy and Program Development, though Obama's Hawaii birth certificate has been made public, the office still receives 10 to 20 requests each week from people looking for information to prove the president is not a U.S. citizen, the AP reports."

AP says: "Hawaii Health Director Dr. Chiyome Fukino issued statements last year and in October 2008 saying that she's seen vital records that prove Obama is a natural-born American citizen. // But the state still gets between 10 and 20 e-mails seeking verification of Obama's birth each week, most of them from outside Hawaii, Kim said Tuesday. // A few of these requesters continue to pepper the Health Department with the same letters seeking the same information, even after they're told state law bars release of a certified birth certificate to anyone who does not have a tangible interest. Responding wastes time and money, Kim said."

In other words: AP confirms the (true) birther claim that the birth certificate has not been released and explains why it has not been released. Obama's claim to citizenship is based on the testimony of someone who's seen the records (and the famous "certificate of live birth") not the publication of the birth certificate itself. Jillian seems simply not quite to understand the issue. There is no need to release the birth certificate, of course. But that's not tantamount to its having been released.

Obama was born to an American Mother (anybody doubt his Mom was his Mom?). Therefore he is a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN !! That'd be true even if he was born on Mars !!

I am a U.S. citizen, born to an American Mother around the same time as the Pres... I got a US passport years ago with no questions asked despite never having lived in the US... My kids aren't Americans (and rightly so) but I AM A NATURALLY BORN AMERICAN - and so is the President!

What does the fact that those supporting Obama - or for that matter he himself - just don't simply say that ??? What does that say ? Do you all enjoy this controversy?

"Obama was born to an American Mother (anybody doubt his Mom was his Mom?). Therefore he is a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN !! That'd be true even if he was born on Mars !!"

Nope...he'd be a citizen..but not natural born.

Bama'a mama was only 18 when she birthed him. According the the law, if he were born outside the country..because his mama baby daddy was not a citizen...and because Obama mama did not live in the US for five years after her 16th birthday before he was birthed...he ain't natural born

...true story

Jesus could descend from the sky in a golden chariot with Obama's birth certificate plastered on the bumper and they wouldn't believe he was a "natural born citizen". No proof is good enough for them. So no - don't release another damn thing. Why? Just because it would piss them off.

We could argue this until the end of time, but it simply doesn't matter; President Obama could go on national TV and announce "My REAL father was Fidel Castro and I was born in a thatched hut in Kenya and snuck into Hawaii via a Russian submarine!" AND IT JUST WOULDN'T MATTER!!! He is the POTUS, and the only Constitutional way to remove him is by impeachment for "high crimes and misdemeanors" which he hasn't committed and a Democratically-controlled Congress is highly unlikely to impeach him. But the good news is...

Birthers are wasting a lot of time, energy and money (and public goodwill) pursuing this idiotic claim. Time and money they might otherwise spend organizing, registering voters and raising money. So let them keep at it. Hell, ENCOURAGE them!

Too bad the Birthers didn't raise these issues BEFORE the election, eh? I imagine it has to hurt really badly to get your ass beat by a black man with a Muslim-sounding name.

Nope

The law states:

"".If only one parent was a U.S. citizen at the time of your birth, that parent must have resided in the United States for at least ten years, at least five of which had to be after the age of 16.""

...now Bama mama was only 18 when she had Bama

Oh...and did you know that you could get a Hawai'i birth certificate even though you were orn in a foreign country

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