
Former Bush adviser Karl Rove was heckled and ultimately forced off stage at a book signing in Beverly Hills by protesters who called him a "war criminal" and told him that he'd "ruined the country."
According to a local news report (see video below), Rove, who was promoting his new book "Courage and Consequences: My Life as a Conservative in the Fight," was confronted by, among others, Code Pink co-founder Jodie Evans, who waved handcuffs at him and threatened to make a citizen's arrest. Evans called Rove a "war criminal," and said he had lied about Iraq.
Several other audience members shouted at Rove, and in the end he left without signing autographs for those who had come with book copies in hand.
According to the Associated Press, no arrests have been made.
Watch a local news report of the incident:
farnsworth
March 30, 2010 4:39 PM
I have mixed emotions about this.
On the one hand, I don't like the idea of someone, however odious, not being allowed to speak, especially at an event where he is scheduled to speak.
On the other hand, this vile little man is responsible, either directly or indirectly, for so much pain and sorrow, for so much death and destruction, that it is hard to imagine any punishment he received being out of proportion to his crimes.
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rynato
March 30, 2010 6:33 PM in reply to farnsworth
reminds me too much of teabaggers at town halls.
He's scum but he has a right to speak too.
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TerryDarc
March 31, 2010 1:15 AM in reply to rynato
No, the left has been too quiet for my taste. We can protest and stop short of spitting on people, using racial epithets, and carrying heat with us to the event. These evil people of the Bush administration need to be called out on their sins.
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JNagarya
March 30, 2010 6:38 PM in reply to farnsworth
I do also. On the other hand, he's long had a platform from which to spew, without talkback or actual dialogue.
It's unfortunate one must "rudely" interrupt in order to get a word in at all, let alone edgewise. Call it an intervention by means of which We the people orient him toward and help him connect with reality outside his dream machine.
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AbqMike
March 30, 2010 8:44 PM in reply to JNagarya
Why not protest this scum silently [with signs etc.]inside the store, and heckle him when he's coming or going. I agree that shouting down a speaker puts us on the same level as the "Tea-Party" and other Right Wing protesters we deplore.
By the way, I rarely engage in ad hominem attacks, but Karl Rove is a rare exception. In his public life he truly has been a scum.
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JNagarya
March 31, 2010 9:26 AM in reply to AbqMike
Language has too much self-respect to be able to reach as low as Rove in order to describe what he is with anything near total accuracy.
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wial
March 30, 2010 9:19 PM in reply to farnsworth
It's a false equivalency with the tealiban.
Thing is, he's a war criminal who is going scot-free. He deserves a whole lot more than heckling, and as long as he goes free it's a slap in the face to all good people in the world. Maybe he's not as bad as Kissinger, I don't know, but he's way up there. I know the right says such things about progressive heroes, but they're just delusional.
Free speech is great, but shouldn't it be reserved for non-war-criminals?
Maybe they could make a law for him and his brood like the laws they have for sex offenders. Rove can go free so long as he drenches himself in the blood of his relatives every ten minutes. Because we are all relatives, and he's responsible for the deaths of an awful lot of my brothers and sisters around the world.
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JJNelson
March 31, 2010 12:44 AM in reply to farnsworth
There are very few people I'd wish this on, but until he comes clean and apologizes for the previous administration, I hope he receives this same kind of treatment every time he goes out in public for the rest of his life.
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toddincabo
March 31, 2010 1:00 AM in reply to farnsworth
Teabagger in reverse.....did you see those thugs saying that "they would like to hear what he had to say without interruptions"......
Oh me....Oh my.....
I wonder where we have seen this style of interruptions before....
I wonder
but with lies.....this was the truth....
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housewife
March 31, 2010 1:28 AM in reply to farnsworth
Code Pink was just exercising their first ammendment rights. One of the most horrible sounds in the world is the that of Karl Rove's voice. Think of it as noise cancelling.
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jfields
March 30, 2010 4:44 PM
Farnsworth: Yes, especially since Rove has received no punishment whatsoever, of any kind.
Getting heckled while trying to make money selling a book full of pernicious lies doesn't count.
So, to sum up: Massive war crimes, vs. zero punishment...I'd say Rove still has a LOT of punishment coming. Hopefully various kinds. I'd suggest we all start with heckling him off the stage at every public appearance, and then move to more appropriate punishments, such as a trial at The Hague.
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SOS ICEBERG
March 30, 2010 4:45 PM
Fuck him. He needs to experience this directly, and the manifestation of push back like this - and identifying him as a war criminal in so many words - is what's necessary to get him out behind his Oz curtain and ultimately behind bars. Vile fucking pig.
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dudeguy
March 30, 2010 6:26 PM in reply to SOS ICEBERG
I say "Booooo." Stupid stunts like this just get him more book sales. I bet he's grinning all the way to the bank.
He's vile, but he deserves things that actually hurt him, not things that help him.
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jeffgee
March 30, 2010 7:28 PM in reply to dudeguy
And it gives the wingers their preciousssss umbrage. They need a fresh supply every day to keep the victimhood strong.
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kaylaspop
March 31, 2010 12:06 AM in reply to dudeguy
No, I'd say that the morons who buy his books are a given. Someone needs to scream in this scumbag's face!
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dudeguy
March 31, 2010 4:17 PM in reply to kaylaspop
If I believed it made him feel bad to have this happen, I'd at least see that some good came of it.
But I know he liked it. Hell, I'd love to get screamed at by some teabaggers. Would make me feel important. Why wouldn't Karl like this? He has nothing to lose.
Sure, it makes me feel good to see Rove get shouted down. But I'm not interested in politics to feel good; I'm interested in politics to better the world. And the world isn't better because of this. I think it's worse -- the protesters are playing into Rove's hands.
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converse
March 30, 2010 4:49 PM
God forbid that anyone should disrupt his right to make money off the death and misery of hundreds of thousands. How dare they!?!
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tiowally
March 31, 2010 4:43 PM in reply to converse
Shrub has a book coming out, too, also, you betcha, don'cha know. (Sorry, force of habit.) To accommodate his mastery of the English language, instead of a memoir it will be a: Memories. I'm sure it will be great. Honest, truthful, forthright, just like the man (and his mother).
I suspect that it would've been a hair-pulling experience for the average ghostwriter. Seriously: It's a guy that can't remember, to be generous, half of his life. Thankfully, Dick Cheney* has no hair. And he drinks. And armed.
*Fun fact: Dick is the first former Vice who has been granted full Secret Service protection after leaving office, at no charge to him. Not that he'd need it.
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jfields
March 30, 2010 4:53 PM
I especially loved Rove's usual BS about the "totalitarianism of the left" and his "First Amendment rights".
Karl also seems to be a tad confused (I say seems to be, because he's not actually confused...he just can't help but lie about everything) about what the First Amendment says, so let me offer this helpful explanation: It does NOT say you have the right to be the biggest, most destructive asshole in the world for 20 years, and then go on a book tour without being heckled.
Another hint for Karl: "Totalitarianism" is not a particularly accurate word to describe mild heckling.
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dickday
March 30, 2010 6:23 PM in reply to jfields
At least now I know why he and w bush and cheney demanded loyalty oaths signed, sealed and delivered before they would exercise 'free speech rights'. ha!!!
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commie atheist
March 30, 2010 8:13 PM in reply to jfields
Also: "The Downing Street Memos were a complete fabrication."
Oh, really?
http://www.tinyrevolution.com/mt/archives/000740.html
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Smitty McGhee
March 30, 2010 9:26 PM in reply to jfields
Agree. The first amendment does not apply here--no government has abridged Rove's free speech. Just Code Pink.
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hey norm
March 30, 2010 5:08 PM
The little p**sy got chased off by a couple ladies in pink hats. No wonder him and bush and Cheney never served...they were afraid if vietnamese in pink hats.
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Agateman
March 30, 2010 5:09 PM
I have no mixed emotions for Karl Rove. He has shown over and over a first class method of putting people down and doing it without an ounce of remorse. What's the old saying, "what goes around comes around"? Bush called him turd blossom, I call him a large piece of $hit.
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CityGuy
March 30, 2010 5:17 PM in reply to Agateman
Poor Turd Blossom, having to hear from real Americans. Yeah he is a large piece of crap who never served, dropped out of college, and got lucky politically with the biggest loser of them all, the Shrub. Now he wants to make money off of others death and misery.
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farnsworth
March 30, 2010 6:08 PM in reply to Agateman
I have no mixed emotions whatsoever about Rove. He is a blight on the face of the planet.
What I have mixed emotions about is heckling people off the stage.
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TeddyKGB
March 30, 2010 5:13 PM
So to sum up: yelling and screaming about health care = patriotic.
Yelling and screaming at Karl Rove = inappropriate.
Your own medicine. Take it.
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VictorLH
March 30, 2010 5:14 PM
Fuck Rove - he deserves all the contempt he gets. He's fortunate not to be hung for war crimes. I'm disappointed no one threw shit at him.
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AhTrini1
March 30, 2010 5:31 PM
I find it amusing how the teabaggers can always call out others for being "rude" but they are proud of their August townhall shoutfests.
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Dadzo
March 30, 2010 5:41 PM
More than any other individual or organization Karl Rove is responsible for the hateful tone of political discourse in America today. While I find it disturbing, even in confronting this evil bastard, it does look a lot like justice to me.
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Odel Roo
March 30, 2010 5:57 PM
Man o man - the comments here a TPM are just a bit psychotic. On one thread they piss and moan about hateful shit/rhetoric and on this thread it's mostly hateful shit/rhetoric they just pissed and moaned about. LMAO... I guess they just can't be happy in the land of sunshine and unicorns. Go figure.
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JNagarya
March 30, 2010 6:43 PM in reply to Odel Roo
Telling the truth about Karl Rove may be absolutely ugly -- but it isn't hate becasue it is true.
Your beef is non-existent: your extremist faction not only constantly spews hate, but also rejects truth in order to do so.
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traitorjoe
March 30, 2010 7:01 PM in reply to Odel Roo
"They just can't be happy in the land of sunshine and unicorns." Self-righteous and snappy, too. You must be quite a hit at Hutaree.
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Odel Roo
March 30, 2010 8:41 PM in reply to traitorjoe
Self-righteous??? Have you read the comments... I'm only stating the obvious.
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araucaniad
March 30, 2010 6:06 PM
It is very wrong to think that you can win a political argument by silencing your opposition. What do you gain by this? "Shouting down" those with whom you disagree only makes you look bad. This is an example of what is wrong with civil culture and political discourse in America today.
It's like when Daniel Pipes' speech at Berkeley got shouted down by protest kids. I would have preferred to hear what the man had to say. I saw Robert McNamara speak at Berkeley even though you could easily make all the arguments you like about him being a war criminal and a lot of other things.
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lemecdutex
March 30, 2010 6:22 PM in reply to araucaniad
Just where are regular people supposed to be able to confront people like Rove? He had no problem removing himself, Bush and Cheney from any possible confrontation all the years he was doing serious damage to the country and the constitution. And now, at a book signing where he's trying to make money by lying about the shit he's pulled we're supposed to be polite and remain silent? This is private citizens confronting a public citizen in one of the only possible venues available. HE CHOSE to publish this bullshit, HE CHOSE to take a chance at a book-signing, and now he can face the consequences. Shouting him down is probably the only option for stopping him at this point, the media is still too much in love with him and gives him too much respect. Fuck that.
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dudeguy
March 30, 2010 6:30 PM in reply to lemecdutex
Dude, do you really think Rove thinks he's popular? He's made a career out of being reviled. These "protesters" are playing right into his hands.
Karl Rove will use this incident to make money. So will Code Pink. So will countless other entities, left and right. And nothing will be better. This is a waste.
Consequences? Ha. He's been praying for this amateur-hour crap to go down. It allows him to feed.
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wial
March 31, 2010 9:08 AM in reply to araucaniad
McNamara was a repentant war criminal. Rove is still working to make more like him. It's not something a just society should tolerate. What do we do, say "Well, the Obama administration wants the freedom to do the same things Rove did, so they're letting him go free, and we should just shut up and take it"????
If America needs that to protect its security, it means America should not exist. I prefer to think of America in a better light -- a place where the likes of Rove get the justice they deserve. Since that light is not currently shining though (thanks Rahm), at the least I will not object to a few brave people like those in Code Pink and that White House counsel who was forced out, Greg Craig, attempting to speak truth to power.
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Leftist Pinko
March 30, 2010 6:13 PM
scumsh!t rove needs to freaking disappear. if i were there i would've punched his smug porcine face in.
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bdog207
March 30, 2010 6:18 PM
If he ever comes to my town, I'd heckle him right out on his fuckin' fat ass.
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Turnaround
March 30, 2010 6:34 PM
The bloodied and dismembered bodies of half a million needlessly murdered Iraqis and thousands of American and coalition soldiers are piled in perpetuity on the heinous soul of Karl Rove.
He will never crawl out from under their weight.
WAR CRIMINAL! INCARCERATE THAT MURDERER!!!
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traitorjoe
March 30, 2010 6:38 PM
He was heckled. He wasn't spit on, wasn't called anything racist. He wasn't shot, he was yelled at. And he cried like a baby. A lot better treatment than he would get if he was in prison - where he belongs - where gang rape and daily beatings would occur. Odel Roo, please go back to NewsMax or the Alabama RNC where you belong.
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Nancy Irving
March 30, 2010 6:46 PM
Apparently his "Courage" was not sufficient for him to face these particular "Consequences."
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buck
March 30, 2010 6:48 PM
mob justice
Of all the people to be subjected to this kind of thuggery, Rove is one I don't mind being mugged. It is a rare exception that I would make. In fact, the only other person I would like to see get this treatment--especially shaking handcuffs in his face--is the Pope, Il Papa Nazi
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bdog207
March 30, 2010 7:05 PM
You can email karl rove directly at karl@rove.com (from his Twitter account).
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FreemanW
March 30, 2010 7:09 PM
Fuck KR and the Turd Blossom apologists.
Criminals do not deserve an audience.
KR ought to be in Federal Poundmeintheass Prison for Treason and sedition, or International Prison in The Hague for his complicit part in War Crimes.
Instead he's on a book tour making money off of his evil life and lined up to be shoulder-to-shoulder on FOX with other convicted Felons like Ollie North.
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synchronicity
March 30, 2010 7:13 PM
Well the reality is it just reminds me that I am pissed of that there we have not held anyone from the previous administration accountable for their actions.
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Barney
March 30, 2010 7:17 PM
Ah, yes...just more lefty fascism being defending here at home of tolerance..
...you people are seriously beyond parody
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nova voter
March 30, 2010 7:44 PM in reply to Barney
how did you feel about people screaming down sitting members of congress at town hall events? was that "fascist"?
i'm serious about that question.
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commie atheist
March 30, 2010 7:49 PM in reply to nova voter
No, that was just real Americans venting their frustration and airing legitimate grievances against their representatives, due to their all-too-accurate fears about government takeover of Medicare and Social Security and concerns about having an illegitimate Muslim President. IOKIYAR.
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lemecdutex
March 30, 2010 7:47 PM in reply to Barney
Barney, look up troll, then look in the mirror. What a waste of pixels you are.
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RocketEngineer
March 30, 2010 11:44 PM in reply to Barney
BarneyQueef! Did the medicine wear off? The doctors are here to help you, you know.
Now tell us about that incident with your mother.
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Dave Adams
March 31, 2010 4:00 AM in reply to Barney
I'd be a little more sympathetic about Rove being heckled if he hadn't forced protesters at the Republican National Convention into a chain-link-fenced-in pen located miles away. Not much concern for tolerance there. Where were you when Bush was practicing real Authoritarianism Barney? Waving a finger with a purple bandage on it?
And speaking of tolerance, none of us would be allowed to even post on your oh-so-tolerant righty web sites.
TPM as the "home of tolerance"? Seeing as how you're even allowed here, you got something right for once.
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Resistance
March 30, 2010 7:21 PM
REAPING WHAT THEY SOWED
Rove and Company is receiving exactly what they sowed.
Had the Republicans retained the Whitehouse and Congress, any dissenters would have been rounded up.
Hypocrites, now fearful and crying about how unfair, yet; if they were still in Power, they would have continued their Purge
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Purge
Look what they did to destroy the Dixie Chicks for speaking up
“During a London concert ten days before the 2003 invasion of Iraq, lead vocalist Maines said, "we don't want this war, this violence, and we're ashamed that the President of the United States is from Texas" (the Dixie Chicks' home state).[2] The statement offended people who thought it rude and unpatriotic, and the ensuing controversy cost the group half of their concert audience attendance in the United States and led to accusations of the three women being "un-American", as well as hate mail, a death threat, and the public destruction of their albums in protest.[3]”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dixie_Chicks
READ ABOUT HOW THE AMERICAN RED CROSS TREATED THEM
HOW THEY WERE BLACKLISTED BY MSM
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commie atheist
March 30, 2010 7:45 PM
Rove has been on TV (and not only on FOX, but on CNN and most of the major broadcast networks as well) for the past year and a half, first as an apologist for the Bush administration, then as a an attack dog against Obama, and now shilling for his book. He has had ample opportunity to make his voice heard, and will continue to get that opportunity. I really don't feel too bad about him being heckled off a stage in Beverly Hills, of all places.
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NuttyProf
March 30, 2010 7:51 PM
ROVE AND THE BUSH LEGACY PROJECT ARE REWRITING HISTORY AND THERE IS NOT A F*CKING THING YOU OR I CAN DO ABOUT IT
YOU AIN'T SEEN NOTHING YET!
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Turnaround
March 30, 2010 8:28 PM in reply to NuttyProf
Yes, we can.
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susanthe
March 30, 2010 8:09 PM
You reap what you sow, Karl.
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Doc Magnus
March 30, 2010 8:51 PM
OK, fine, mixed emotions, whatever. Personally, I like the confrontation and the only thing that pissed me off was the Dems were themselves too wussie to reply last August -- it took the only gay member of congress to show them how to fight back.
I say both sides should give as good as they get, short of violence. No one ever guaranteed a "polite" audience. That's why stand-up comics know how to deal with hecklers.
In the end, progressives will win and the regressives will lose because everything they have ever believed in is repeatedly proven wrong in the real world.
And then, we can all just get along.
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Pierce R. Butler
March 30, 2010 8:57 PM
I'm terribly ashamed of Code Pink and their performance at this event.
Didn't any of them think to bring a spare pair of shoes?
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bill
March 30, 2010 9:06 PM
There are several key questions to ask about these protesters:
1 Where they funded by Malcolm Forbes?
2 Where they placed there by Dick Armey?
3 Where they Fox viewers?
If the answer to these is "Yes", then they are likely "Tea Baggers".
If the answer to these is "No", then they are likely not.
Their behavior makes it hard to tell the difference, but look at the funding, and, if they have any, they're probably 'liberals' or 'progressives', rather than "Tea Baggers".
(Oh, the Republicans like to show disrespect to the Democratic Party by calling it the "Democrat Party"; but the Republicans have insisted that the media's use of "Tea Bagger" be halted as 'disrespectful' to the Forbes-funded astro-turf, pretend 'movement'. So, please, delete "Tea Bagger" and insert 'Fraud'.)
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Johnny
March 30, 2010 9:18 PM
The irresponsible little kid in me is cheering. The rest of me can see this is no different from teabaggery. We're better than this, people.
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jlang57
March 30, 2010 9:57 PM
The concept of freedom is irretrievably bound up in the idea that if we would be free, we must first protect our neighbor's freedom, lest we lose our own.
As odious and disgusting a person as Karl Rove is, as much as he resembles the slug that has just crawled across your clean towel, he deserves the right to speak his mind.
We cannot limit the rights of others and expect to keep our own.
I believe that he is a war criminal as well. I believe that we should be arresting him and charging him as such. But, he enjoys freedom of speech and regardless of how much we may not like what he has to say, we must allow him the freedom to say it.
If we do not, then the words in the Declaration and Constitution mean nothing.
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dbl.r7711
March 30, 2010 10:28 PM
This scum of a bastard had no problem outting a CIA agent, and jepordizing her life and career . And what about all of the lives lost in Iraq by our soldiers?.... What about all of the injuries suffered by our men and women in the service of our country? Karl Rove and Dick Cheney are war criminals as well as " chicken hawks ".
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spero
March 30, 2010 10:48 PM
What about his turning the Department of Justice into the RNC? How about his imprisoning Democratic officials to win the 1000 year RNC reich? No. Allowing Rove to hold a stage anywhere for any length of time is out of the question. The optics are just not acceptable.
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Kaneblues
March 30, 2010 11:59 PM
Cowardice and consequences. Get used to it Karl. It's going to follow you like your shadow for the rest of your life.
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markg8
March 31, 2010 12:35 AM
Don't buy books from crooks. Rove is a punk and always has been. I look forward to the news from Fresno tomorrow. This man should be shunned by all of America. From now on he'll probably have security screening his audience. If enough protesters show up no bookstore anyone else will want to bear the expense or the dip in business. Make him the pariah he deserves to be.
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GSM
March 31, 2010 1:01 AM in reply to markg8
Could you imagine if John Podesta had this happen to him by Tea Party protestors under the same circumstances. You weenies would be crying intolerance and somehow linking racism to the situation.
After all the whining that you clowns did about the DC confrontation, the fact that you can sit here and rationalize this clearly is reflective of the life of illusion and double standards that embrace you. Now go back and mentally masturbate as to why this is warranted but similar actions by the Tea Party folks are not!
By the way. where is Maranus tonight?
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KateO
March 31, 2010 9:21 AM in reply to GSM
Podesta is not a war criminal. There is no blood on his hands.
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ericf
March 31, 2010 12:47 AM
Think strategically. The protesters gave a gift to the right. Morally right actions can still be stupid, and this is exhibit A. To anyone not already convinced Rove is a war criminal, they came off as crazy. There's no point in pretending otherwise.
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JoeTheMechanic
March 31, 2010 2:53 AM
Anybody notice how Rove shouted down David Ploufe on the Tee Vee just a few days ago?
I'm not sure why Rove should be allowed to shout people down but nobody else should be allowed to shout him down.
Apparently, the cops didn't think there were any grounds for arrests of Code Pink members. Seems to me like they were excercising their First Amendment rights.
As far as political fallout... well, is there no distinction between speech and criminal activity? Since when was smashing the windows of your political opponents' offices protected by the First Amendment? Spitting on a member of congress is an assault and a battery. Death threats are obviously criminal.
Yes, of course the Republicans will claim equivalence, but they will fool a relatively small number of people.
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VanArsdale
March 31, 2010 4:35 AM
I normally don't like these kinds of disruptions, whether it be slimes like Rove or David Horowitz. Having said that...
This is EXACTLY the kind of tactic he used coming up; handing out invitations for "beer & pizza" at local Democratic meetings (and then distributing them to the homeless to crash the events).
Faking a "bug" planted in his office to discredit his opponents. And lately, revealing the name of a CIA because he has torqued at her husband.
He cannot be allowed to speak unchallenged.
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Turnaround
March 31, 2010 9:32 AM in reply to VanArsdale
Doesn't Rove realize that it is treasonous to oppose the president during a time of war? He's an enemy combatant and should be treated as such. Frog march, orange jumpsuit, no representation.
Ah, turnaround is fair play;-)
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MT from CC
March 31, 2010 9:18 AM
This type of disruption just gets used by the GOP to push the meme that both sides have equivalently loud, radical types that are equivalently dangerous, when nothing could be futher from the truth. Although I personally do see a distinction between handcuffs, the Code Pink lady's props, and automatic weapons or explosives, which are the dangerous wingnut's typical props for disruptive activity. And I can just see Turdblossom and his boyfriend, cozying up for a late night martini, complaining about how radical leftists made it impossible for him to reward his fans with autographed copies of his newest work of fiction, "Courage and Consequences", which presumably refers to the courage involved in stealing an election, and the consequences that ensued, which was to fuck this coutry up for at least the next 50-100 years. Rove, the Chimp in the oval office, and the evil overlord Cheney who pulled the strings from a secret bunker a hundred feet below the surface of the earth, deliberately set in motion (through right wing, University of Chicago school economic shock therapy of the kind Naomi Klein so profoundly identifies in her masterpiece "Shock Doctrine") a regressive plan of massive government deregulation, regressive tax cuts (which greatly expanded the gap between the upper class and the middle class in the U.S.), elimination of government services (making things harder and more expensive for working people), privitization of governmental functions and precious national resources, and expanded public spending in the military industrial complex (on the pretext of national security and terrorism, but as it happens for the financial benefit of the dark overloard and all of teh GOP's most loyal supporters in the defense-national security industrial spectrum. I guess that's what Rove considers to be "courage". The consequences are ones for which the rest of us will be paying the price for decades to come, no matter what Obama or anybody else does. In fact, the GOP is already blaming Obama for problems in parts of the government that the Bush White House decimated, and in which they planted neo-cons in civil service jobs, to undermine what a progressive president will do.
This disruption, sadly, plays into the GOP's public relations approach to reality -- take the most obnoxious thing that anybody on the left does, and extrapolate from that the obnoxious conducts represents the median of leftist thinking, while understating what the right does, and disclaiming any connection to the many violent elements in the Wingnut branch of the Teabagger movement that they have been deliberately stoking for the "enthusiasm" they bring to the GOP cause (which is regaining power so that they can start all over again destroying government, increasing the gap between the rich and poor and expanding government's reach into out private lives, for our moral wellbeing. Sdly, those are the "consequences" unless we finally wake up and continue the work that was started in 2008 - show up at the ballot box, not a book signing, and disrupt the GOP plan by defeating this delusional conservative phenomena once and for all.
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blkblt
March 31, 2010 9:19 AM
I would kind of like to see people toss shoes onto GWB's lawn for the rest of time.
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thecrow
March 31, 2010 10:15 AM
Rove claims the Downing Street Memo is a "total fabrication".
Maybe he is thinking of the Niger "yellowcake" forgery.
"Principle VI
The crimes hereinafter set out are punishable as crimes under international law:
(a) Crimes against peace:
(i) Planning, preparation, initiation or waging of a war of aggression or a war in violation of international treaties, agreements or assurances;
(ii) Participation in a common plan or conspiracy for the accomplishment of any of the acts mentioned under (i)."
http://michaelfury.wordpress.com/2008/12/10/forgive-and-forgetforget/
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thecrow
March 31, 2010 10:17 AM
http://michaelfury.wordpress.com/2010/02/08/a-naming-of-parts/
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Leftflank
March 31, 2010 12:22 PM
Karl should actually be preaching about his freedoms from a jail cell, as odd as that seems. He is allowed to live & walk among us, that is all the gravy he gets. Heckling is so much better than hanging, lying is so much better than dying. The fact that karl still has a beating heart to raise his blood pressure with is such an incredible bonus compared to the alternative he deserves. Alive in infamy is as good as it will ever get for the infamous, Turd Blossom".
P.S. What a pussy!
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Tosh
June 5, 2010 4:24 AM
It is very wrong to think that you can win a political argument by silencing your opposition. What do you gain by this? "Shouting down" those with whom you disagree only makes you look bad. This is an example of what is wrong with civil culture and political discourse in America today.
It's like when Daniel Pipes' speech at Berkeley got shouted down by protest kids. I would have preferred to hear what the man had to say. I saw Robert McNamara speak at Berkeley even though you could easily make all the arguments you like about him being a war criminal and a lot of other things.
m65 kamagra
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