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Rep. John Shadegg (R-AZ)

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In a striking interview on MSNBC this morning, Rep. John Shadegg (R-AZ) made, perhaps unintentionally, a strong case for a single-payer health care system.

Speaking with host David Shuster after an announcement by Rep. Dennis Kucinich (D-OH), a progressive who advocates single-payer, that he would vote for health care, Shadegg argued that Democrats only got Kucinich's vote by "breaking arms." He suggested Kucinich wouldn't readily vote for the bill because it rewards insurance companies.

"The reality is, this bill is going to reward for-profit insurance companies that have done a disservice," Shadegg said. "This bill is going to give them exactly what they wanted. The insurance industry, the for-profit insurance industry, wanted an individual mandate and that's what they're getting out of this bill. The for-profit insurance industry did not want a public option because they don't like competition and guess what? They're getting that."

When Shuster accused Republicans of supporting insurers, Shadegg balked.

"No we don't! You guys keep saying that, but I'm not the guy pushing the bill that says we should compel people to buy insurance from the for-profit guys. That's the Democrats," he said.

Then, after some back and forth with Shuster: "I would support single-payer."

"You would support a government-run medical system?" Shuster asked.

"Absolutely," Shadegg said. "I would support forcing American insurance companies to compete. Right now they have a monopoly."

He also said that the best way to pay for those with pre-existing conditions is to "spread their costs among the healthy, among the taxpayers."

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On his web site, Shadegg is described as "known for his strong advocacy for free market health care reform" and once compared single-payer to Soviet gulags.

Late update: Asked for clarification, Shadegg's spokeswoman tells TPM that the congressman would indeed support a public option.

Congressman Shadegg believes health insurance companies should have to compete for our business as individual consumers. Forcing them to compete, even through a public option, would be better than an individual mandate which will not work.

So there you have it. A Republican who could get behind the public option.

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March 17, 2010 3:36 PM   

Because I like watching message control I have to ask. Do you think that in their failure to get Democrats in the house to bit on the "You can't trust the Senate!" tactic, they are going to try to peel people away saying:

"Wait a second, lets do single payer, really we mean it! Just don't pass that now, and lets start over and push for a single payer! We will work on it through November, when the American public will send us the message that they don't want it then abandon it."

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March 17, 2010 6:29 PM    in reply to Winston Smith

and Lucy always promises to hold the football, allowing Charlie Brown to actually kick it.
Poor Chuck.

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March 17, 2010 6:29 PM    in reply to Winston Smith

and Lucy always promises to hold the football, allowing Charlie Brown to actually kick it.
Poor Chuck.

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March 18, 2010 2:36 AM    in reply to Winston Smith

RDC-AOP !!!!!

(Republican's Don't Care About Ordinary People !)

This is perhaps the only constant in the political universe.

In fact, they HATE ordinary people.

(Hate too strong? Then go with contempt.)

Best Regards,
Timothy Kane, RDCAOP.

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March 18, 2010 8:09 AM    in reply to Winston Smith

He supports a public option; he just won't vote for any bill that contains a public option.

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March 17, 2010 3:39 PM   

Wow that gets your attention! A rethuglican who actually would say they support single payer!

This guy is going to retract this asap because having an honest debate about what is fair and decent with the business of healthcare is NOT what the rethuglican leadership will allow. If rethuglicans would have an honest debate about how to get healthcare to all Americans at a reasonable cost we would have single payer in a heartbeat. The right wingers in Canada would never try to get our fukkd up profit system installed there because who is stupid enough to pay twice as much for far less coverage? Idiots? Americans?

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March 17, 2010 5:42 PM    in reply to hollywood

He's lying. Republicans always lie.

The strategy was predictable. Make so many demands that the Bill gets loaded with bad provisions. Then blame the Democrats for including provisions that the Republicans demanded.

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March 17, 2010 7:39 PM    in reply to hollywood

Didn't I read somewhere that Shadegg is retiring? He can afford to play word games.

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March 17, 2010 3:44 PM   

He's full of shyt!

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March 17, 2010 3:44 PM   

I am looking at a dead man!

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March 17, 2010 3:53 PM   

If Rep. John Shadegg (R-AZ) wants a public option, why didn't he vote for the House Health Care bill?

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March 17, 2010 4:00 PM   

Isn't this guy retiring? Perhaps he can get away with saying this because he is on his way out.

I doubt that he'll stand by his word here. He'll be marched in front of a camera to give a Soviet-style recantation after the Republican leadership works him over.

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March 17, 2010 5:24 PM    in reply to cambridgeMR

Yes, he's retiring, and he doesn't mean a word of what he's saying. He's just blurting out whatever nonsense will cause maximum difficulty for the Dems at the moment.

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March 17, 2010 4:05 PM   

When I had occasion during last summer's town hall chaos to talk to conservatives, they of course adamantly opposed any reform, but when I said I'd prefer to let anyone buy into Medicare, they were all fine with that. Didn't blink before agreeing.

I really think we haven't had a failure of spine or a failure of tactics, but a bad strategy right at the beginning.

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March 18, 2010 5:17 PM    in reply to ericf

And yet when the proposal was made in the Senate to expand Medicare as a substitute for a public option, did you see any Republicans coming out against Lieberman's filibuster on that issue? No, I didn't either.

Talk is cheap. These guys will claim to support just about anything as long as it not what is actually on the table at the moment.

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March 17, 2010 4:33 PM   

Apparently I am suffering from an acid flashback of the hit of Purple Haze I took back in '71. I believe that the story above states that this republican is in favor of single payer, but that is not possible, so it must be an acid flashback.

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March 17, 2010 4:49 PM   

Further shark-jumping.

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March 17, 2010 4:50 PM   

Well, it probably is phony.

But...when you think about it...it would have been much harder to demogauge "Medicare For All" only because the public broadly supports "Medicare" and doesn't think of it as "government-run health care."

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March 17, 2010 4:57 PM   

Then why doesn't he speak the truth about the good things that the Democrats want to do regarding the bill and make it work. Instead he has voted with the Republicans (en masse) as a "NO". So, now in the final hour he can state, "wait, what I really wanted was a single payer!". F--- That! If you really wanted it, you would have worked with the Dem's to pass it. Otherwise, this should be seen for what it is...a last ditch effort to try to derail a bill that the Republicans know (IN TIME) they will come to regret not working with the Democrats on. They want it to die. So, why not offer up something MORE LIBERAL as a possibility to stop what they have now. This is a ploy...nothing more, nothing less.

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March 17, 2010 5:00 PM   

A blatant attempt to divide and conquer by reopening the Universal Healthcare/Medicare for all/Public Option debate right at the very moment the Democrats are going to pass this bill.

"Follow me, folks, and get everything you want. See the bright, shiny object? That's right keep staring at it kiddies, and follow me. Now you don't want that nasty, weak, watered down Democrat bill, do you? No, of course not..."

Scumbag.

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March 17, 2010 5:20 PM   

the public option is popular among the american people and if the repugs say they would support it then it might stop this health care bill in it's steps which is no 1 on the repugs. list. they'd never vote for a public option--it's just another strategy and maybe the dumb dems and the Amer. public would fall for it.....

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March 17, 2010 5:43 PM   

Teabaggers! Get the pitchforks!!!

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March 17, 2010 5:43 PM   

He was on MSNBC, so he told them what they wanted to hear. If he'd been on Fox, he'd have said something completely different. He's a politician, and not one of those smart ones who actually believes something and can make a case for it.

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March 17, 2010 5:44 PM   

Yeah, sure this guy supports single payer. This is the same idiot that used his staffer's baby as a prop on the House floor back in November whilst railing against the evils of "government-care".

remember?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUxWTEnW8Bk

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March 17, 2010 5:44 PM   

Jane Hamsher would be fundraising for him right now if he weren't retiring.

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March 17, 2010 7:45 PM    in reply to clonecone

LOL...good one!

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March 17, 2010 5:45 PM   

Please, he probably did some polling, found out that his electorate liked a single payer system, and now wants to support it in name only so that he doesn't face an irate electorate come November. A total tool.

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March 17, 2010 5:47 PM   

You're correct and one could run his statement a couple of different ways, but it is a bold straight forward statement for a 'Pub. The rest of the scum in his party simply parrot the "let's start over and do this right" bs. So it does stand out and could be used against the Dems in a bizarre way. The 'Pubs are masters at controlling the narrative but realizing, as I type this, that they could never call for single-payer, as it would make them all socialists,commies and of course, anti-American. Don't think they could turn that narrative around at this point. Interesting to see if Rep. Shadegg has anymore to offer in the next few days. Of course he could realize his mistake and simply state, for the record, that his statement "was taken out of context"! What a dirty business.

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March 17, 2010 5:48 PM   

Don't get all excited folks, I'm sure he's already been beaten with boners big orange stick. He'll be walking this back in the days to come, or they will keep him off the teevee machine until people forget this unfortunate little slip.

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March 17, 2010 6:03 PM   

Another politician willing to let the perfect be the enemy of the good.

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March 17, 2010 6:30 PM   

Shadegg is lying of course, but Shuster is incredible! It was the best thing on this morning and trust me I was looking hard to watch something else, anything else, trying to simply break myself away from the news without having to turn on a judge show or Sabrina the Teenaged Witch!
I bow down to you David Shuster. That was simply awesome.

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March 17, 2010 6:39 PM   

Once again, and this time with single-payer, IOKIYAR.

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March 17, 2010 7:14 PM   

This is great news! For Republicans!

I fully expect Senator Shadegg to approach Majority Leader Reid and offer to vote for cloture *but only if the bill includes a public option*.

I happen to part company on a few things with Shadegg though. As noted in the link Shadegg equates single payer to, "...full on Russian gulag, Soviet-style gulag health care" -- which he came out in favor of today. For myself, I'd prefer Medicare for All *without* the gulag, but to each his own.

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March 17, 2010 7:16 PM    in reply to Measure for Measure

Oops, it's Representative Shadegg, (AZ-3). My bad.

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March 17, 2010 7:31 PM   

You lie!

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March 17, 2010 9:24 PM   

Yet the public option was in the House bill and Shadegg voted against it. Why do I feel he is doing an Inspector Clouseau and slipping on the floor and saying "I meant to do that."

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March 17, 2010 10:02 PM   

When a Republican has his mouth open....

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March 17, 2010 10:08 PM   

No, acutally you wouldn't, because the GOP tells you how to vote and then you vote. You are simply a clone of your leadership. No original thought allowed.

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March 18, 2010 2:03 AM   

This is brilliant politics. All the Republicans now come out in favor of a public option, which means back to the drawing board. Then when it's time to vote months from now, revert to 'health care reform is socialism', the corporate media nodding along all the while, and ride it to the election with millions of old white people going to the polls to prevent socialism from destroying Social Security.

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March 18, 2010 4:44 AM   

You're looking at a preview of this fall's discussion of health care reform. The Republicans will decry the individual mandate, and how it just plays into the hands of the insurance companies. They'll be right about that, and since this theme fits in with their supposed devotion to the free markets, it will play well.

The Democrats are going to lose big if they pass this bill. It's like they hate having a majority.

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March 18, 2010 8:46 AM   

he nailed it a mandate with no public option and more importantly no enforcement means the scum in the senate did their job and more private companies get BILLIONS more tax dollars. What a bunch of scum, hopefully al queda drops a plane on the senate!

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March 18, 2010 11:09 AM   

Why doesn't this Congressman WAIT UNTIL SUNDAY to talk to the GOP leadership??

GET LOST, FOOL!!

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March 18, 2010 4:56 PM   

He's for the public option.....and pigs fly!

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March 18, 2010 6:02 PM   

This isn't the first time Shadegg speaks sense on health care. Glennzilla caught him a few weeks ago speaking up for a public option. Evidently there's (at least) one Republican with brains and a conscience. Now I hear from you-all he's retiring. Still, what he says, stands.

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April 28, 2010 6:05 AM   

You're correct and one could run his statement a couple of different ways, but it is a bold straight forward statement for a 'Pub. The rest of the scum in his party simply parrot the "let's start over and do this right" bs. So it does stand out and could be used against the Dems in a bizarre way. The 'Pubs are masters at controlling the narrative but realizing, as I type this, that they could never call for single-payer, as it would make them all socialists,commies and of course, anti-American. Don't think they could turn that narrative around at this point. Interesting to see if Rep. Shadegg has anymore to offer in the next few days. Of course he could realize his mistake and simply state, for the record, that his statement "was taken out of context"! What a dirty business.

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