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RNC Chairman Michael Steele told Fox News anchor Shepard Smith today that he agreed with House Minority Leader John Boehner's assertion that health care reform is akin to "Armageddon."

Smith asked Steele, "Armageddon? Seriously?"

Steele: "Yes!"

Later in the interview, Steele echoed Smith's call for more civility in politics: "As we get ready for immigration, and tort reform, and all kinds of other things that are going to be coming down the pike, that level of civility, Shep, is very, very important. Because that, at the end of the day, is what people want."

Steele then pushed a new GOP site --- FireNancyPelosi.com -- that features a photo mashup of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi engulfed in flames

"And let's go FireNancyPelosi.com, baby!" Steele added.

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March 22, 2010 4:48 PM   

Let's hear it for civility!

Burn baby, burn!

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March 22, 2010 5:57 PM    in reply to de TOQUEville

It IS Armageddon... for the GOP.

What do you do after you've already turned it up to 11?

Do teabaggers try to assassinate Obama and Pelosi? Do they strap on suicide vests?

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March 22, 2010 6:13 PM    in reply to rynato

No joke.

And when it's NOT the end of the world- how do you expect the voters to take you seriously?

Steele and the GOP bet on saying no to everything and characterizing everything as the second coming of Stalin, and when it isn't Obama can simply look at voters and say "How can you trust these people to govern when they are quite literally Chicken Little?"

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March 22, 2010 6:32 PM    in reply to Gooner

Nihilism (from the Latin nihil, nothing) as in Nietzsche's characterization of the Republican emptying their world and especially their present political meaning, purpose, comprehensible truth, or essential value.

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March 22, 2010 9:33 PM    in reply to Gooner

You'd really have to believe that that'd be the case, but I'm becoming increasingly cynical. I can't understand how they do it but they manage to control the message, facts be damned. Look at the ACORN debacle, for example. I realize this could be a legitimate platform for Dems to campaign on, but don't think the truth will get in the way of the doomsday scenario spin-meisters.

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March 23, 2010 4:43 AM    in reply to Megan97401

They control the message because there are so many ties with the ownership and management of megacorporations with massive advertising budgets or outright ownership of MSM outlets. In other words, money talks, bullshit (as defined by them) walks.

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March 23, 2010 1:30 AM    in reply to Gooner

Well, I hope you're right about that. But I have to wonder. Suppose the Republicans just keep on saying that the HCR bill has caused disasters. "We have statistics that prove, conclusively prove, that HCR is directly responsible for the loss of 300,000 jobs," for example. Wouldn't that make it look like they had been right all the time? And if some journalist reported that those statistics were, in fact, complete fabrications, they could say "Well, sure, he'd say that, but he's got a liberal bias, you can tell because he's calling us liars," and then all the other news media would say "300,000 jobs lost due to HCR -- the controversy continues" and give equal time to both sides, because you can't be Fair and Balanced without acting like Republican lies are true. I don't see why the Republicans have to suffer because HCR produces lots of benefits and no problems; they just have to keep on lying.

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March 22, 2010 4:53 PM   

Sooooo... when exactly does the Rapture start?

Fucking moron.

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March 22, 2010 5:03 PM    in reply to georgecs

Well, if you ask this yoyo, next Tuesday. (warning: brain-melting combination of bad HTML and bad logic)

They've been moving the date up by a month or so every month since July 2008; finally gave up and jumped from April 2010 to September 2010 a few weeks back. Both funny and sad to watch...

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March 23, 2010 4:49 AM    in reply to Matt Jones

Yes, I've seen this site before. It was featured on websitesthatsuck.com (a site about bad site design, though this one did get bonus points for the wacky content)

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March 22, 2010 4:54 PM   

That word you keep using, I do not think it means what you think it means.

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March 22, 2010 6:07 PM    in reply to PingGuy

Classic. I just literally laughed out loud. Thanks for that.

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March 22, 2010 4:58 PM   

Y'know, there were people that said the same thing about other critical pieces of legislation (see Voting Rights Act, school desegregation, etc.). Most of them would have strung Mr. Steele up from a tree at the earliest opportunity. Actually, some of the SAME people that are saying this about HCR, now that I think about it.

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March 23, 2010 9:10 AM    in reply to Matt Jones

Exactly. The same people who screamed that Medicare was "SOCIALIZED MEDICINE!!!!!" 35 years ago are now screaming "KEEP YOUR HANDS OFF MY MEDICARE!!!!!" Completely unaware of their own hypocrisy.

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March 22, 2010 5:00 PM   

I was wondering why there was a large beast with numerous heads in my front yard this morning.

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March 22, 2010 5:02 PM   

Remember when we used to think that Stewart/Colbert would be bored with an Obama Administration?

The DNC just doesn't pay Steele enough - not only do we get the incompetence that was promised us, but as a value-add, we get unintentional hilarity - his metrics are off the chart!

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March 22, 2010 7:39 PM    in reply to Jack of All Tirades

At least Steele is only stupid instead of malicious.

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March 22, 2010 8:12 PM    in reply to JNagarya

The hits just keep on coming. Someone should really make a doll of Steele with a pull-string to keep repeating some of his best lines. Thing is, you'd need to update the memory card every few weeks to get the new stuff.

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March 22, 2010 10:06 PM    in reply to JNagarya

Yes, he is an entertaining moron who knew better than to be on the street outside the Capitol on the weekend. He's just grifting as much as he can before they pull the plug on him.

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March 22, 2010 5:10 PM   

Mommy, why does the crazy man want to set the nice lady on fire?

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March 22, 2010 7:53 PM    in reply to destor23

Because he's civil.

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March 22, 2010 9:56 PM    in reply to JNagarya

Wow! I think I needed that, and this thread. Had a couple of good laughs.

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March 22, 2010 5:21 PM   

Remember Y2k?
How it was talked about forever and the "worst case scenerios" had people stockpiling shelters?

Yeh, this is like that.
The Radical right has spent the last year scaring the sheep out of their minds and yet here it is the day after HCR passes and nothing ... nadda, ZIP!!! The world is pretty much the same as yesterday.

... and again here comes the RNC with their cries of Armagedden and "the end of Democracy" and "Baby Killers" ... but the American sheeple have succumb to "HCR Rage Fatigue". They are all quietly slipping out the back of the rally and are heading home to concentrate on the NCAA finals and American Idol.

Yet John Bonehead and his ilk continue to cry about the sky falling.
Really. It's getting embarrassing.

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March 22, 2010 8:09 PM    in reply to justaJ0e

Actually your Y2K reference is a false analogy. The potential for a disaster was real. Not as bad as many described, perhaps, but a real disaster. The reason nothing bad happened is that millions of man-hours and billions of dollars were spent to forestall the problems. That huge expenditure contributed to the post-2000 economic downturn, because it was money and effort spent to fix something that was broken in the past, not invested in the country's future.

So no, the current situation is nothing like Y2K at all.

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March 22, 2010 9:13 PM    in reply to farnsworth

Y2K was WAY overhyped.

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March 22, 2010 10:34 PM    in reply to rynato

No, it wasn't. There was a HELL of a lot of work put into fireproofing everything. Anyone with any COBOL knowledge at all was guaranteed a job for 2 years beforehand.

Rather than celebrate it as a success, people want to pretend it was all a joke. The threat of Y2k was quite real. As it was a few systems did crash, but not many.

What should really have happened is that the fact that it had been largely fixed should have been spread around in the months beforehand to diffuse the panic. That was the real sin.

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March 22, 2010 10:49 PM    in reply to Sir T

Such a good job was done fixing the huge problem that many people who never understood were confused, and leaped to wrong conclusion that it was never a real problem. Because of that a lot of people who did a really good job fixing things never got the credit they deserved.

And ten years later a lot of people are erroneously comparing it to things that are actually fake, like Bozo Steele and his Armageddon BS.

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March 23, 2010 4:54 AM    in reply to farnsworth

I don't discredit those who worked to avert the problems at all. What gets me is that, at least from what was reported in the press, no one figured out sooner that this was a potential problem. Then these poor techie folks wouldn't have had to bust a nut to fix it.

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March 23, 2010 9:43 AM    in reply to Sir T

As someone who was there, working the front lines, at a company that was on high alert that night, I can tell you with confidence that it was WAY overhyped.

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March 22, 2010 5:27 PM   

In this context, "Civility" = "Gentility, as defined by right-wingers."

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March 22, 2010 5:38 PM   

The culmination of almost every right wing leader's messages have been and are undeniable: they are calling for violence against Democrats. They have already justified right wing terrorism by blaming Obama. Period.
These people on the right are disgusting, bigoted, hypocritical traitors.

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March 22, 2010 5:41 PM   

For once, Mikee is right. It is Armageddon. It's Armageddon for the GOP!!!

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March 22, 2010 5:45 PM   

Notice that the stock market was up today. If had gone down, the idiot Rs would have been screaming bloody murder.

I watched Steele and Kaine of the DNC on one of the Sunday talk shows yesterday. I was really quite surprised at the extreme rhetoric Steele used to talk about Obama and the Dems. Steele's words were right out of the Tea Party playbook: Socialist President, Democrats "destroying our nation", "listen to the people", etc. Then again, thats all the Rs had to say last eve during the final debate. All scare tactics and hotbutton words, targetted to needlessly rile people up, mindlessly repeated talking points.

While the American middle can be swayed left and right, and while right-wing extremists may win office in some states and districts, the American people have never abided this kind of fear-mongering for very long. Steele is playing to the base--I expect him and the Rs to lose the middle over the long run. And without the middle, the Rs will never again control the strings of national power.

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March 22, 2010 5:48 PM   

What does he mean by "Here comes speedy!"? At the very end there.

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March 22, 2010 7:13 PM    in reply to Parkview

An Alka-Seltzer reference. He's been chugging that shite by the gallon.

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March 22, 2010 10:05 PM    in reply to Parkview

I am beginning to wonder if the man doesn't have some variation of tourette's syndrome.

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March 22, 2010 5:56 PM   

It really bugs me when one day they say we aren't paying for this and it's going to raise the deficit and then the next day they talk about how much it raises taxes. Wait a minute... I'm starting to wonder if Republicans might not have a real substantive argument and so they resort to a one-size-fits-all repertoire of boilerplate talking points.

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March 22, 2010 5:56 PM   

"Yeah Baby"

The gift that keeps on giving.

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March 22, 2010 6:07 PM   

My question, Which big mouth wing nut will actually make the "Call to Arms" (post reform, that is)

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March 22, 2010 6:19 PM   

The more I see this man speak, the more I grow suspicious that he is a mole for the DNC. It just seems the most logical answer at this point. LOL

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March 22, 2010 6:22 PM   

Think of the small business owner?

You mean the ones getting a tax cut?

yeah, but...umm...I mean...SOCIALISM!!!

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March 22, 2010 6:26 PM   

Armageddon was a movie with Bruce Willis, Ben Affleck and a stripper named Molly Mounds. Oh, and Steve Tyler of Arrowsmith was singing and they blew up the comet and everyone was dancing in the street, except Bruce Willis cuz he got wasted on the comet.

Michael Steele is a total ass if he doesn't know this. Total Ass.

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March 22, 2010 7:58 PM    in reply to jeez louise

They made a movie of "Armageddon" and it didn't end the film industry?

Hmmm. I think, then, I should begin to look at the "Bible" with at least a little skepticism.

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March 23, 2010 5:05 AM    in reply to jeez louise

and Liv Tyler cried, I guess cuz Bruce Willis, her dad in the movie, cacked on the comet, but maybe because her real-life dad's song sucked so bad. Maybe because the whole movie sucked pretty bad.

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March 22, 2010 6:37 PM   

Sascha Baron Cohen... hilarious as always in his latest guise!

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March 22, 2010 6:49 PM   

Civility? That's what people want? As opposed to, say, meaningful legislation? Is "civility" what the teabaggers want? Really?

Frankly, Mike, I think your logic's flawed. I don't think "civility" is what people want at all. It'd be nice, but not essential. But if "civility" IS what people want, then they sure as hell ain't gettin' behind your Party anytime soon, you nitwit.

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March 22, 2010 7:08 PM   

Repubs, please, please, please don't fire this guy! He's the best thing to hit the Political scene in decades. For Dems of course

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March 22, 2010 7:08 PM   

As in "Armageddon my ass out of this job A.S.A.P.? You betcha!!"

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March 22, 2010 9:27 PM   

Yup, well I don't blame the RNC for wanting to fire Nancy Pelosi. She is tough, tenacious and the most powerful female politician in U.S. history. Sux to be a House Republican right now ...

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March 22, 2010 9:47 PM   

Why the hell would a black guy want to be in a racist party? He's going to look back on this and regret every minute of it.

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March 22, 2010 9:55 PM   

How many times can you scream armageddon? I guess we'll find out
Most people won't remain radical for very long.
Unless they are in truly dire circumstances, people tire of being angry and bitter all the time.
I remember the 70s when eventually even motivated people wearied of pessimistic, apocalyptic conversations. Most just went back to everyday living,some got 'co-opted' and went mainstream,some turned their angry words into positive action, etc. A few of them (maybe the best AND the worst)kept protesting and/or haranguing,depending on how you look at it, but the fact is it takes a lot of effort to keep people motivated and mobilized. pretty soon the only ones left are the purple faced screamers, and their puppetmasters.
these folks have been screaming the same things for a year now.
will they all go away? no. but they will begin to suffer attrition. Some of them will find that they actually like some of the new things in the health care bill. some of them will spend themselves on internal bickering and primary battles. Some will discover the hypocrisy in their own movement and their own leaders and they will tire of contributing to politicians. others will just keep bitching and be happy with that.

Some will keep showing up, but most will just go back to watching their tv shows. Even so, everything gets old after awhile when you are media fed and media driven.
at least they'll have their online porn to fall back on.

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March 22, 2010 10:40 PM   

It's the end of the world as we know it. And we feel fine!

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March 22, 2010 11:01 PM   

Cue cheesy Aerosmith tune.

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March 22, 2010 11:11 PM   

Armageddon? Whoa!

Maybe the real problem is that there are people in high public office who want to base public policy on bronze-age mythology rather than sound analysis.

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March 23, 2010 7:43 AM   

What a fuss and bother by the right wing because Democrats passed the Republican health care bill, strikingly similar to Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney's Massachusetts bill and containing all the key elements of the 1994 Republican proposal, including the mandate that all citizens purchase insurance through private insurance companies and government vouchers for low income individuals. Imagine the tizzy the right would be exhibiting had the Democrats actually passed a progressive health care proposal!

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March 23, 2010 8:09 AM   

I can't take anything Steele says seriously after reading this quote in this morning's NYT about HCR passage:

There is no downside for Republicans,” Michael Steele, the Republican National Committee chairman, said Monday in an interview. “Only for Americans.”

So now we know; it's true that Republicans are not Americans.

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March 23, 2010 10:24 AM   

Steele should get out while the gettin's good. The crazies that are his party will turn their doomsday anger on him soon.
Well, at least these guys give us a fresh history lesson of every battle ever fought in vain & lost. The GOOP can now be added to the list.

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