
Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer has come under fire from the left for signing her state's controversial immigration bill into law. But she told Fox News' Megyn Kelly today that people outside the state don't really understand the issue: Arizona has been under "terrorist attacks" from illegal immigration.
"You know Arizona has been under terrorist attacks, if you will, with all of this illegal immigration that has been taking place on our very, very porous border," Brewer said.
She said the federal government had not stepped up, and Arizona was forced to bear the crime and "decimation of our countryside."
"We do not and will not tolerate illegal immigration -- bringing with it very much so the implications of crime and terrorism into our state," Brewer said.
Watch:
(h/t Think Progress)


mans_best_friend
April 30, 2010 5:31 PM
I can relate, guv. The rest of us have been under terrorist attack from Republicans for the last 30 years.
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LonewackoDotCom3
April 30, 2010 5:50 PM in reply to mans_best_friend
You're spoiling the lie that Eric Lach is trying to retail: "terrorism" doesn't have to mean flying planes into buildings. It can also be used in phrases like "terrorist threats"; if you search for that plus "legal" you'll see that it's a legal term.
And, in Brewer's case, if you watch the video, you'll see she's referring to kidnappings and the like. And, Eric Lach is either so deceptive or so unaware that he doesn't realize that the "countryside" refers to the tons upon tons of trash that illegal aliens leave behind on their journeys, including in protected areas.
If you assume that anything TPM writes about this issue is designed to mislead you, you'll be alright.
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farnsworth
April 30, 2010 7:26 PM in reply to LonewackoDotCom3
So, you are saying that right wing liars can make up anything they want? That's been clear for years.
What about all the Republican who are enticing the illegals into Arizona in order to exploit them for cheap wages. Do you call them terrorists too? Didn't think so, liar.
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DingBat
May 1, 2010 1:15 AM in reply to farnsworth
No... they are criminals. A business or person that knowingly hires criminal aliens, should be prosecuted.
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TIMMY
May 1, 2010 7:32 AM in reply to DingBat
So if leaving trash behind is terrorism.
Then giving them jobs so that they can afford to buy things and dispose of the trash is aiding & abetting terrorism.
Did not GW Bush have some comments on aiders & abettors of terrorists?
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plaidsportcoat
May 1, 2010 6:18 AM in reply to farnsworth
....and the border white guys that own the gun stores that sell American guns to Mexican cartel members who use them in Mexico -- and then bring 'em back over the border to use on this side.
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jack'sband
May 1, 2010 8:32 AM in reply to LonewackoDotCom3
What else counts as terrorism then? Jay walking? Having a late library book? Getting a parking ticket? Littering in the town square?
Please, enough with the faux outrage. The word "terrorism" has a specific weight with a certain constituency. White people. That's why Brewer used the word terrorism.
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big jonny
May 2, 2010 5:04 PM in reply to LonewackoDotCom3
So, kidnappings and litter are the result of illegal aliens pouring across Arizona's border? White folks do neither of those acts, clearly. Where'd you get your statistics on that claim?
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JefferyK
April 30, 2010 5:33 PM
What a moran.
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Effin Rightman
April 30, 2010 5:39 PM
http://arizona-boycott.org/
Should anyone care to participate. The list includes:
--Best Western
--Dial Soap
--Fry's Foods
--Greyhound
--GoDaddy
--Lifelock
--PF Changs
--PetSmart
--Ramada Hotels
--Sky Mall
--U-Haul
--US Airways
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AndrewT
April 30, 2010 6:43 PM in reply to Effin Rightman
No, not Sky Mall!
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saguaro
April 30, 2010 9:08 PM in reply to AndrewT
My goodness. SkyMall! What am I going to buy when flying! water?
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GTFOOH
April 30, 2010 6:46 PM in reply to Effin Rightman
I with you all the way!...Well maybe not the Go Daddy Girls.
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DingBat
May 1, 2010 1:17 AM in reply to Effin Rightman
Why would I want to boycott these people?
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traitorjoe
April 30, 2010 5:48 PM
These terrorists have been mowing our lawns, cutting our hair, fixing our cars and washing our dishes for years. They must be stopped.
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chameleon
April 30, 2010 6:09 PM in reply to traitorjoe
Not to mention taking care of the sick, cleaning houses, picking our fruits and vegetables. This country would come to a fucking halt if we deported these people.
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JefferyK
April 30, 2010 7:14 PM in reply to chameleon
It would starve. Literally.
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Resistance
April 30, 2010 7:40 PM in reply to JefferyK
No we would just be fairer in allowing legal immigrants from other Nationalities who have been waiting in line.
We would like more diversity. Why must we be enthralled with your preferences?
It isn't like the Legal Hispanic community, couldn't drive South to meet up with family members.
It's a little different if you’re from Sudan and you want the kids to meet the grandparents and you have to fly there.
Oh cry cry cry, it's such a hardship for the Hispanic to drive 4 to 6 hours South.
It’s not about immigration rights with you folks; it’s about a selfish preference. A favored Nation.
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JefferyK
April 30, 2010 7:45 PM in reply to Resistance
You know, I find it hard to believe that American agribusiness is running newspaper ads in Sudan recruiting illegal immigrants to come here and pick the crops -- which they do in Mexico.
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AJM
April 30, 2010 8:09 PM in reply to Resistance
For the most part, people who have to leave their relatives so far behind are not going to come here to pick lettuce for the wages given illegals. Try again.
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Leftflank
April 30, 2010 10:14 PM in reply to Resistance
So you're all for flying in cheap labor? Maybe even a shoe bomber or two, as long as they're from the Sudan..
Were the 9/11 terrorists diverse enough for you?
Does reasonable suspicion guide you, 'cause you're reasonably suspicious.
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Resistance
April 30, 2010 10:38 PM in reply to Leftflank
Hey johnny come lately, I'm not for cheap labor.
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Leftflank
April 30, 2010 10:58 PM in reply to Resistance
Shoe bombing terrorists are good with you though.
Oh yeah, what's up with Sudan? Were you going for people dark skinned but maybe not Muslim?
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IndisputableAttitude
May 1, 2010 3:10 AM in reply to chameleon
Only about 25% of them do useful work. The vast majority of them are selling drugs, in prison, are gang members. They shit on the food supply (e-coli) and don't obey the law. They don't pay taxes, nor have health insurance so that everyone else pays a higher rate to support them.
Their problems in Mexico, they bring with them. Their ultimate goal is to dispossess the Whites in this country. Leftists like you are in love with the idea of yourselves as noble do-gooders, but in reality you're shabby shitheads endangering the community.
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expatjourno2
May 1, 2010 4:41 AM in reply to IndisputableAttitude
If they don't pay taxes, idiot, it's because their white, god-fearing American citizen employers aren't withholding taxes from their paychecks.
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TIMMY
May 1, 2010 7:38 AM in reply to expatjourno2
When GE avoids taxes they are not singled out. But when an illegal immigrant does not pay taxes there is something wrong with them....but not with the employer who pays them in cash.
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bill57
May 1, 2010 10:42 AM in reply to IndisputableAttitude
Stop being such a chicken shit coward. Everyone and everything sends you hiding under yer bed clutching yer guns and bible. Try growing a pair. Quit sniveling and act like a man. Craven coward.
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IndisputableAttitude
May 1, 2010 2:16 PM in reply to bill57
Where did I say I believe in the Bible? I started reading it and when I got to page 2 and the story was about a talking snake I put it down because I knew it was bullshit.
To me, the fight in Arizona is White man vs. Mexican. White man won the territory in war and a peace treaty was signed. These Mexicans are in violation of that peace treaty and are undermining the rule of law. You can dress it up anyway you want, but at it's core, this is a racial conflict in Arizona. If it were Whites coming in, no one would really care. FACT
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DingBat
May 2, 2010 4:29 PM in reply to bill57
Gotta love these Keyboard, Liberal tough guys....
I wish we lived on the same block for a couple of hours.
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bill57
May 3, 2010 12:55 AM in reply to DingBat
No ya don't. Your a chicken shit coward just like your girlfriend Indisputa. Your scared shitless of blacks,hispanics, jews, muslims,gays,commies, socialists, asians,educated elites and pretty much anyone who isn't a mouth breathing scab eating chicken shit coward like yourself.
I'm smarter, stronger, faster and a hell of a lot better fighter than you'll ever be. Bring it on ...pussy...
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DingBat
May 3, 2010 1:07 AM in reply to bill57
BTW "your" is possessive. You're is contraction for you are.
Try not to wet yourself over this.
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bill57
May 3, 2010 1:31 AM in reply to DingBat
Okay here ya go..."You are" a chicken shit coward. "You are" a mouth breathing, scab eating chicken shit coward. Does that make it easier for you to undestand? Come on out from under "your" bed. Nobody is going to hurt you. No reason to be so scared of everyone. Pussy.
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farnsworth
May 1, 2010 7:32 PM in reply to IndisputableAttitude
Wow, you are stupid.
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bibimimi
May 1, 2010 3:30 PM in reply to chameleon
And after them, who's NEXT?!
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docrocktex
April 30, 2010 6:12 PM in reply to traitorjoe
LOL. good one
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Ironcomments
April 30, 2010 6:50 PM in reply to traitorjoe
You also forgot they also help create the real estate boom by actually building the homes in AZ. It is not a coincidence that as the housing market tanked, this fervor of anti-immigration in AZ started to rise. Naturally as unemployment rises crime ticks up as well but the nativist morons always need a scapegoat to focus their hate and fear on.
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mophan
May 2, 2010 11:27 PM in reply to traitorjoe
She's not stopping at calling them terrorist. Awaiting her signature, recently passed by AZ's racist legislature, is a bill where teachers are to be fired for having an accent and ethnic studies are to be eliminated. Only in a Republican's mind is making it illegal for a country southerner from Alabama to be employed as a teacher, and denying knowledge to a student to make them smarter, makes perfect sense and good policy.
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Arundhati
April 30, 2010 6:06 PM
Gov. Brewer has a nice smile. Much more attractive than the hideous rictus smirks of Pelosi or Billary Clinton.
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DingBat
April 30, 2010 7:54 PM in reply to Arundhati
Now now...it's not their fault that they are aesthetically challenged. Everyone cant be as beautiful as Michelle Obama.
oooops..Sorry, I'm taking the low ground like a Liberal.
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AJM
April 30, 2010 8:14 PM in reply to DingBat
Take a good look at Brewer's picture on TPM's home page. Looks like she skipped her Botox.
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DingBat
May 1, 2010 9:32 AM in reply to AJM
OK...She was born in 1942. Why does any of this matter? Unless you are young, liberal and stupid.
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AJM
May 1, 2010 9:40 AM in reply to DingBat
Agreed that worshiping politicians for beauty is ridiculous. But if the person I was replying to is going to go by that standard, I wanted to see it applied evenly to both sides. Further, the way some conservatives have been drooling over Palin and others, reminds me more of certain observations of what parts are doing the thinking in certain situations, than of any rational political observations.
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DingBat
May 1, 2010 10:13 AM in reply to AJM
Well stated, You are 100% correct and I am one of the guilty that thinks Palin is a pretty woman.
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DingBat
May 1, 2010 7:42 PM in reply to AJM
You're probably right but why does it matter?
She's a Patriot, Pro Gun and I would vote for her even if she was as ugly as Nancy Peloci. It really just doesn't matter
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AJM
April 30, 2010 8:34 PM in reply to Arundhati
Say Wha?
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RocketEngineer
May 1, 2010 1:25 AM in reply to Arundhati
That photo of her has been airbrushed by a master. I thought Leonardo was long gone.
If you ever see her on television, photographed by a local station, you'll long for a picture of Hillary or Nancy Pelosi.
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Greydog
May 1, 2010 3:45 PM in reply to Arundhati
moronic comment
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agio
April 30, 2010 6:08 PM
"You know Arizona has been under terrorist attacks, if you will,"
No, I fucking won't, you orwellian bigot.
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DingBat
April 30, 2010 7:56 PM in reply to agio
Another Eloquent Intellectual !!!
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TIMMY
May 1, 2010 7:41 AM in reply to DingBat
Go fuck yourself....is that eloquent enough for you?
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DingBat
May 1, 2010 9:23 AM in reply to TIMMY
Always the case..when the idiots on the left run out of steam.
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kenga
May 2, 2010 11:41 AM in reply to DingBat
Some comments are so stupid, so obviously pandering to base fears, that any response other than ridicule is inappropriate.
Gov. Brewer made such a comment, and deserves any ridicule she gets because of it.
As does anyone who finds her comment reasonable.
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Publishermike
April 30, 2010 6:09 PM
First, they came for the illegal immigrants...
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jsdc007
April 30, 2010 6:17 PM
I guess illegals have attacked Jan Brewer and photoshopped her to death in that picture. All the botox and restylane in the world couldn't make that woman look like what she looks like in that "touched-up" shot.
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frsbdg
April 30, 2010 8:04 PM in reply to jsdc007
If you must know, all the Photoshop work on her picture was part of her jobs program. It took a team of 20 computer techs working around the clock to get this done.
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DingBat
April 30, 2010 6:50 PM
She's got my vote. I wish Texas would pass the same legislation.
As for several of the previous comments, When liberals run out of steam, they usually get vulgar and personal.
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SchrodingersCat
April 30, 2010 7:01 PM in reply to DingBat
Unlike this charmer obviously written by a "liberal":
Did you even bother to read the f'ing thread, jackass?
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DingBat
April 30, 2010 7:42 PM in reply to SchrodingersCat
Very Eloquent !!! I'm Impressed !!!
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nova voter
April 30, 2010 8:09 PM in reply to DingBat
Weird. That's what your mother said last night when I was Vittering her.
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Resistance
April 30, 2010 8:23 PM in reply to nova voter
He told me earlier, he had to take the dog to the Vet.
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bill57
May 2, 2010 10:53 AM in reply to nova voter
You dressed dingbats mother up in diapers and spanked her?!?!?
Dude...now how is dingbat going to earn an allowance?
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Ironcomments
April 30, 2010 6:53 PM
I thought the actual terrorist(people did commit terrorist acts) entered the U.S. legally and the ones who didn't came through Canada.
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Resistance
April 30, 2010 7:42 PM in reply to Ironcomments
Thats whats wrong, we in Arizona suffer, because YOU THOUGHT
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DingBat
April 30, 2010 7:45 PM in reply to Resistance
Amen,
We in Texas suffer too and don't have the sense (or guts) to pass similar legislation.
Debra Medina would have been a great choice for Texas.
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Hominine
May 1, 2010 1:37 AM in reply to DingBat
The only thing I'm suffering here in the great state of Texas is fools like you.
That is is fine by me however, I embrace the constitution and know the history of small minds such as yours..
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DingBat
May 1, 2010 9:21 AM in reply to Hominine
Please enlighten us with your knowledge of History.
This country was stronger and a better place to live before all the Liberalism. This Arizona Governor remembers how it once was and is fighting a losing battle against all the Lilly-Livered Dunderheads like yourself.
You really should study your history before you attempt to discuss the subject.
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afisher
May 1, 2010 12:59 PM in reply to DingBat
Study history - is that before or after TX SBOE re-writes it?
Terrorist attacks - that must be code for GUNS, which the US sends to Mexico, thru TEXAS! So when you visit your local gun show, better be sure exactly who is buying those guns. Did you notice that the orignal report of AK47 used to shoot sheriff has be walked back to a rifle?
As for Medina - you mean your TP candidate who lost big time? Perry is bad enough. In a LOL moment, he has come out against the AZ law - but only because he thinks TX's aren't smart enough to know that he will change his tune if re-elected? Duh, you fortunately only have one vote, consider it cancelled out by MINE!
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Ironcomments
April 30, 2010 7:52 PM in reply to Resistance
Because someone needs to do it for you.
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DingBat
April 30, 2010 7:57 PM in reply to Ironcomments
???
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Cal Gal
April 30, 2010 11:04 PM in reply to Resistance
Huh? Try making sense, OK?
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DingBat
May 1, 2010 12:15 AM in reply to Cal Gal
Were you successful at doing so? I didn't understand the comment.
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Resistance
April 30, 2010 7:29 PM
Arizona wants diversity,
"Hey, get in line you folks sneaking across the Southern border, No cutting.
Get in line like the rest of the folks trying to come to America legally.
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Lono65
April 30, 2010 7:43 PM
We will not sit idly by and allow our countryside to be decimated by these foreigners.
Everybody knows it's OUR job as Arizona legislators to decimate our countryside!
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AJM
April 30, 2010 8:18 PM in reply to Lono65
Well, the boycott they inspired puts them well on the way to decimating Arizona's economy further.
Don't you just love listening to state's righter just whining for Federal help?
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free2bme
April 30, 2010 8:38 PM
yup, Arizona has been under terrorist attack...by the Arizona government and law enforcement.
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madaboutharry1
April 30, 2010 8:53 PM
Jan Brewer is a hack. Always has been, always will be. Another thing this winner did was sign a bill repealing legislation that allowed state employees to claim domestic partners as dependents. She is a mean spirited, nasty woman.
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DingBat
April 30, 2010 9:32 PM in reply to madaboutharry1
Domestic partners? What the hell is that?
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Cal Gal
April 30, 2010 11:07 PM in reply to DingBat
Boy, you ARE out of your league here.
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DingBat
April 30, 2010 11:33 PM in reply to Cal Gal
Boy? I'm in a Den of misguided liberals and I'm having fun.
Seriously, The borders should be protected with nothing short of deadly force. Criminal aliens are criminals.
If the law was enforced at the border, this legislation wouldn't be necessary.
Why is Racism always the issue when non-white people commit crimes? Criminals are criminals.
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siuol11
May 1, 2010 12:30 AM in reply to DingBat
wow. just... wow. I'm conservative and I would be embarrassed to be seen in the same room with you. Go troll on Politico.
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DingBat
May 1, 2010 12:43 AM in reply to siuol11
Wow just Wow...Conservative on what issues? Immigration? Racism?
I doubt it.
My ancestors immigrated from Ireland and Germany. They played by the rules and so should all immigrants.
The embarrassment would be mutual.
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RocketEngineer
May 1, 2010 1:55 AM in reply to DingBat
Yeah, and my family has been in Arizona since before statehood. My grandfather traveled the border and always carried a pistol. Have you ever seen "No Country for Old Men?" In case you haven't, it's about the border.
There have always been issues on the border, the only thing new is a bunch of conservative pansies crying about it. Well fine, there have been a hundred times more immigrants exploited, injured and killed on this border that anglos. But conservatives need someone to demonize and they do it every election year. Hitler had his Jews, American Nazis (aka Republikans) have the so-called "illegal immigrants."
First, they are not illegal. The only "crime" most of them are guilty of (narcos don't count), is an administrative infraction. That is the equivalent, legally, of a civil speeding ticket. Have you ever received a speeding ticket? You have? You illegal driver, you!
Second, the vast majority -- 90% plus -- are just coming up to make a better life for themselves and their families. There used to be a "Braceros" program that allowed them to come here and fill jobs that Americans wouldn't do, but Nixon canceled it. Now they have to sneak across.
What we need is a legal way for these people to come across the border, do a job and return, legally. This would allow the employers here, who can't get other labor to make a living also. This would also mean that the only ones sneaking across the border would be the narcos, and those guys should be machine-gunned from airplanes.
Oh, and you republikans: when you post, try to use whole sentences, and a modicum of grammar.
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IndisputableAttitude
May 1, 2010 3:15 AM in reply to RocketEngineer
Leftists dont believe in law, they believe in power. The only value law has to them is they can use it to beat sucker-conservatives into line once they enact some crooked measure, since conservatives do respect the law.
Every non-White lawbreaker to you is an "administrative infraction". LOL.
And, you proved Godwin's law.
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DingBat
May 1, 2010 9:37 AM in reply to IndisputableAttitude
AMEN...VERY WELL SAID !!!
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bill57
May 1, 2010 11:57 AM in reply to IndisputableAttitude
Yeah right...is that why conservatives are so against the ACLU? Because they believe in the rule of law?
Tell me oh wise one, just how the conservatives acted when the last Admin. committed treason when outing an undercover CIA op.?
or when the last admin tapped Americans phones illegally? Breaking the law is only bad if you aren't "one of us".
You might be taken seriously if you had principles that weren't rooted in hypocrisy.
Maybe you can name one or two good things conservatism has accomplished oh wise one. Come on...
Liberalism fought for and won...independence from England, bill of rights, constitution of the U.S.A., 40 hour work week, minimum wage, Social Security, desegregation, National Parks, clean air act, labor laws, voting rights for women, voting rights for blacks, Medicare and regulations put in place that ended and stopped another great depression from happening.
Conservatism gave us Ronny "trade weapons to the terrorist for hostages" Reagan. Ronny also started the deregulation of the financial institutions which almost immediately gave us the savings and loan failure. Did conservatives learn? No sadly, they just don't have the ability. Each Republican Admin. kept deregulating after Ronny until we got to where we are today.
Conservatism hasn't done one thing I can think of that has ever made America better. It gave us Reagan, Watt, Bush senior, George "AWOL" Bush, Dick "5 deferments" Cheney, Scooter "treasonous scum" Libby, Sarah "I can see Russia from my house" Palin, John Boner, Tom "felon" Delay, segregation, abolishing separation of church and state, the lists can go on and on.
One last liberal who should be listed would be a guy named Jesus. Where would he stand on the "halt or I'll shoot" or the keeping the dirt Mex’s out?
Maybe you can call Limpballs or Mancoulter so they can tell you how to respond?
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IndisputableAttitude
May 1, 2010 2:27 PM in reply to bill57
News flash... I'm not a Conservative. "Conserve" means to save and I don't want to save things the way they are. I want them turned upside down. Don't put me together with "Kwanservatards" "conservatards" "Patriotards" "Libtards" or any of those mental boxes. They don't apply.
Read my posts and you'll see things from a totally different perspective compared to the way the Jewish controlled media wants you to see things.
They have done a good job of defining the scope of "acceptable" debate. I totally don't accept their narrow view of the world and will think outside their spectrum of what they deem "acceptable". Read, learn and get outraged.
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bill57
May 2, 2010 10:41 AM in reply to IndisputableAttitude
Jewish controlled media? Are you saying Disney (ABC), General Electric (NBC), Time Warner (CNN/CBS), are owned by Jews?
I'll repeat my previous comment. You are a chicken shit coward. You are terrified of everyone that isn't white and or Christian. You know, like all bigots. With spineless twerps like you trying to represent the white race in your imaginary conflict, we might as well hang it up, because we've lost already.
Ladies and gentlemen, here we have a prime example of someone whose mind is so weak that they let an imagined threat cause them to lock all the doors and windows and then hide in the safe room clutching their gun franticly to their chest, shaking in fear at every noise. It's the Mexican Jewish gay black Muslims coming to get me!!!! HELP !! HELP!!
You crack me up. Pussy.
Well…Rupert Murdoch’s mother was Jewish…maybe you should stop watching FOX?
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DingBat
May 2, 2010 2:58 PM in reply to bill57
The ACLU's mission is destroy this country. If you don't know and understand that fact, you are part of the problem.
Name me one ACLU position that defended Patriotism and/or the rights of Christians to worship in a country founded by Christians.
They always come up on the side of criminals, traitors, sexual deviates, and non Christians.
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DingBat
May 2, 2010 3:21 PM in reply to bill57
The ACLU's mission is destroy this country. If you don't know and understand that fact, you are part of the problem.
Name me one ACLU position that defended Patriotism and the rights of Christians to worship in a country founded by Christians.
They always come up on the sided of criminals, traitors, sexual deviates, and non Christians.
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big jonny
May 2, 2010 5:15 PM in reply to DingBat
You actually want someone to list freedom of religion issues the ACLU has worked on that are limited only to the "rights of Christians" and not simply "religion"? It isn't about "Christian" rights being compared to other religions. Do you understand the Constitution at all? Ever heard of the Establishment Clause? Do the words purpose, effect or entanglement mean anything to you? How about the phrase "wall of separation" - that was Thomas Jefferson. The ACLU wants to destroy the country? I am now wholly convinced that you are joking around with your comments. You simply cannot be serious.
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DingBat
May 3, 2010 1:19 AM in reply to big jonny
I must confess. I do like pi$$ing off liberals but I am serious
about might right wing core beliefs.
I find it entertaining when left wing idiots like the "stronger, faster" guy
get really out of sorts and inflict internet violence on those that disagree.
These are the people that like to show their middle finger in moving traffic put will lock their doors and wet their pants at a red light.
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bill57
May 3, 2010 1:55 AM in reply to DingBat
"I find it entertaining when left wing idiots like the "stronger, faster" guy
get really out of sorts and inflict internet violence on those that disagree.
These are the people that like to show their middle finger in moving traffic put will lock their doors and wet their pants at a red light."
The stronger faster guy was responding to "your" quote
"Gotta love these Keyboard, Liberal tough guys....
I wish we lived on the same block for a couple of hours."
and like a true chicken shit coward, you start whining about the response. The "internet violence" that was “inflicted” on you! LMAO!! Poor baby...there there now...it's okay...stop trembling. "You're" safe right there at home.
Only a weak minded person would allow some total stranger to move them mentally to the point that they would feel the need to flip someone off in traffic. My guess is that you’ve done it numerous times.
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DingBat
May 3, 2010 8:58 AM in reply to bill57
Bill,
Well at least we agree on one point. The middle finger motorists
are weak minded and quite often cowardly people. I am not one of them.
As for our assessments of each other, there is probably know way we'll ever know but I can tell you that my only fear is going to prison and not being able to provide for my family.
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bill57
May 2, 2010 9:05 PM in reply to DingBat
Sorry numb nuts. Most of the key founders of our great nation were Deists. This is your assignment for the day. Research the religious beliefs of the authors of our constitution. You will find that their belief in God was based on reason and nature. Compare that to the Christian religion whose belief in God is based on faith and willful ignorance. You could just keep repeating over and over your assertions though. I’m sure your avg. faux news viewer would be more than pleased to give you a heartfelt “ditto”!
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DingBat
May 3, 2010 12:52 AM in reply to bill57
That's what you learned at Berkeley?..Right?
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bill57
May 3, 2010 2:01 AM in reply to DingBat
Wrong answer...started falling timber pretty much right out of high school. I do read a lot though, and was blessed with intelligent parents. That's why it's so easy to school you. Better breeding I'd say.
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slb
May 1, 2010 8:23 PM in reply to DingBat
Get off it. The "rules" are of relatively recent vintage. You don't say when your ancestors immigrated, but there were almost no rules at all at the time of large Irish and German migrations of the 19th century.
The browner the new immigrants got, the tighter the rules became.
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DingBat
May 2, 2010 4:24 PM in reply to slb
Do you really believe this crap? No, the rules have not changed. The Rio Grande River is easier to Cross than the Atlantic Ocean.
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Hominine
May 1, 2010 1:48 AM in reply to DingBat
Kids always have fun in the shallow end of the pool it seems, but keep your floaties on though, umkay? The water gets deep here and it is obvious you have little skill in the way of treading water..
Without a whit of interest in the constitutionality of things, it is obvious those that share your worldview would shred our nations founding instruments if not only to prove a point. (And a tired one at that.) In my mind you and your ilk are befitting of the term 'terrorists', not a care for the rights of others only professed concern for what irks you.
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Early Out
April 30, 2010 9:00 PM
From what I've read in the posts here, I think I'd vote to keep the illegal immigrants, and send the "native" Arizonans (whatever the hell that means) elsewhere, preferably outside the U.S.
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Cal Gal
April 30, 2010 11:09 PM in reply to Early Out
Um, I think the Native Arizonans are Navaho, Hopi, etc.
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Early Out
April 30, 2010 11:23 PM in reply to Cal Gal
Why do you think I put the word "native" in quote marks? The white, wingnut, "hater" Arizonans all echo the same confused line: "By God, this is my state, and I don't want any of them damned darker-skinned people invading it. Harrumph, harrumph." They regard themselves as the rightful inhabitants of the territory. It never dawns on them that they're the invaders.
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RocketEngineer
May 1, 2010 1:23 AM in reply to Early Out
I know several Hispanics that trace their lineage in Arizona back to the Spanish era. I know many more who trace their lineage here back before statehood. Their take is, "I didn't cross the border, the border crossed me."
Oh, and you dopey conservatives, yes they are US citizens, and if you actually do live in Arizona, they've been here longer than you have. I probably have been too.
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IndisputableAttitude
May 1, 2010 3:19 AM in reply to Early Out
Big difference is that Whites won the land by the laws of land warfare, and the Mexicans are slipping under the fence in the night. The US bought the land under the Gadsen Purchase or won it and the Mexican's signed a treaty handing it over to the victorious United States government. These invaders are in violation of that peace treaty.
Mexicans, if you want our land, you need to declare war against us to take it. Please do it right, not the "La Raza" Aztlan silliness.
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TIMMY
May 1, 2010 7:54 AM in reply to IndisputableAttitude
Earlier you said..."Leftists dont believe in law, they believe in power. "
You are quite full of it.
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IndisputableAttitude
May 1, 2010 2:20 PM in reply to TIMMY
Oh really? Then why is it that the leftists on this page are defending illegal behavior? Why all the excuses for them breaking the law? It's cut and dry. Mexican invaders are in violation of the law, yet they have defenders here.
Like I said, it's a racial conflict and because it's the White man getting dispossessed, the leftists are for it whether illegal or not.
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bill57
May 2, 2010 10:48 AM in reply to IndisputableAttitude
Ahhh...did you lose your job picking lettuce in the fields to some Mexican? You poor thing...Here's a cookie for you...feel better now?
Good.
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barrelhse
April 30, 2010 9:34 PM
C**t.
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Leftflank
April 30, 2010 10:23 PM in reply to barrelhse
Don't compliment her, it only encourages the woman/thingy.
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Hobbes83
April 30, 2010 9:41 PM
What is the deal with this Governor? First she claims that she does not know what an illegal immigrant looks like at the signing of the bill, and then she goes on to equate people who come here looking for work and a better life to terrorists. Who the hell is advising her?
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Leftflank
April 30, 2010 10:28 PM
Does Janice think that being seen as a racist, gun-totin', President hatin' state makes them look better?
Arizona was good until the teasticles moved in.
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DingBat
May 1, 2010 12:31 AM in reply to Leftflank
I don't think the Governor cares how Arizona "looks"
She and others like me only want the law enforced.
Patriots are concerned about Obama. Many that elected him are as well but won't admit it. It's not about hate.
What is a teasticle? I'm guessing a typo or a Tea Party Patriot...right?
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RocketEngineer
May 1, 2010 1:28 AM in reply to DingBat
You don't know the meaning of patriotism douche-bag. Your version of patriotism is only appropriate to 1930's Germany.
Sieg Heil, loser.
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Cal Gal
April 30, 2010 11:11 PM
To be fair, there have been some murders in Arizona borderlands, and "drug trains" coming through heavily armed, or so I've heard. I don't think we can chalk this all up to racism, but I don't think the AZ Legislature crafted this legislation very well at all.
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RocketEngineer
May 1, 2010 1:33 AM in reply to Cal Gal
Yes, we have border problems.
The Democratic congresses of the recent years have beefed up the Border Patrol by over 50% over what ol' Bu**sh** had it staffed at. Are there still narcos coming over? Yeah. Are there still gangs in Little Italy? Yeah. Are there still thieves on Wall Street? Yeah.
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DingBat
May 1, 2010 9:29 AM in reply to RocketEngineer
The Border patrol can't enforce the law without attack from the left. The last time they shot a criminal alien, it caused a Liberal Shit-Storm.
You are right about Wall Street....A Den of Thieves.
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AJM
May 1, 2010 9:46 AM in reply to DingBat
Crossing the border is not a capital crime. If there was no other cause for the shooting, it was legally and morally murder. Conservatives simply turn a blind eye when crimes are committed against people they don't like.
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DingBat
May 1, 2010 10:23 AM in reply to AJM
Wrong !!
Law enforcement has the right to use deadly force any time the criminal refuses to halt or freeze.
If a criminal alien, or criminal of any kind refuses to halt or freeze, deadly force may and should be employed.
This is not murder, racism, profiling or any other Lilly-Livered Liberal title. Crime is crime.
What is a cop supposed to do with a fleeing suspect "Halt or you will hurt my feelings" No..It's halt or take a bullet.
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Lono65
May 1, 2010 2:13 PM in reply to DingBat
I'm pretty sure you couldn't be any more misinformed.
Police officers cannot shoot fleeing suspects in the back anywhere but on your TV. As an Arizonan, I can tell you the problem with the law isn't how illegal immigrants will be treated under it, the problem is with how US citizens who happen to resemble illegal immigrants will be treated under it.
Here's another little secret...this bill is nothing but political grandstanding. The Legislature wrote it and Brewer signed it all in an effort to keep AZ voters from holding them responsible for the state of the State (which is dismal). Blame all the state's woes on the illegals...it's a snake oil solution that AZ politicians have been selling for years.
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RocketEngineer
May 1, 2010 10:17 AM in reply to DingBat
Would you care to leave a link to a newspaper report on whatever incident you're talking about?
If you want to go throwing around accusations link to some source material other than a foil-hat website. For instance, you can find the data demonstrating a 50% increase in Border Patrol Agents here.
Now go do some actual research before you spout off here.
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AJM
May 1, 2010 10:30 AM
Your vicious views are not the law in the United States. In the United States this is governed by Tennessee v. Garner, which said that "deadly force...may not be used unless necessary to prevent the escape and the officer has probable cause to believe that the suspect poses a significant threat of death or serious physical injury to the officer or others."
Note the 'and' if you can read.
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afisher
May 1, 2010 1:04 PM
Businesses are taking this boycott alot more serious than you think. Walmart just gave a $1.2million grant to LA RAZA (4/24/2010). Granted it is just a drop in the bucket, but they are hedging their profits by donating to support the Hispanic Cause!
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Sailormarlowe
May 1, 2010 2:20 PM
In an old paperback Western, which could not be printed today, a gunfighter says: "I've killed 11 men in my time; and that don't count Mexicans & Indians." Heehee. If hottie Jan Brewer was born in 1942, she mighta read that oater, after she finished "Peyton Place". Just sayin'. Palin/Brewer. 2012.
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RocketEngineer
May 2, 2010 11:42 AM in reply to Sailormarlowe
You sir, are nothing but racist offal! In the immortal words of your Saint Cheney, "Go f*** yourself."
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RocketEngineer
May 2, 2010 11:45 AM in reply to RocketEngineer
Or should I say, "Go felch yourself."
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DingBat
May 3, 2010 12:58 AM in reply to Sailormarlowe
I might have read that one myself...Sounds like a good plan for 2012 !!!
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bibimimi
May 1, 2010 3:28 PM
The purty airbrushed foto above is a far cry from the YOW, LADY!! picture on the main page.
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DingBat
May 1, 2010 7:38 PM in reply to bibimimi
I like the Cat photo but I'm getting bored with this Den of Liberals. One dunderhead said I needed therapy...I kinda' like that but the rest of this has been the typical Liberal crap.
I'm out of here.
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Greydog
May 1, 2010 3:42 PM
What a giant snnnnnnnatch that old bag is!
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dave_in_mpls
May 1, 2010 6:49 PM
This post has been totally taken over by trolls (and their responders).
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DingBat
May 2, 2010 1:15 AM in reply to dave_in_mpls
What is a troll?
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RocketEngineer
May 2, 2010 11:42 AM in reply to DingBat
Do you have a mirror?
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DingBat
May 2, 2010 1:39 PM in reply to RocketEngineer
I did but It was too scary and I threw it away.
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dmacgregor
May 1, 2010 9:07 PM
A History of Immigration http://academic.udayton.edu/race/02rights/immigr01.htm
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RocketEngineer
May 2, 2010 12:10 PM in reply to dmacgregor
Nice link. Thanks.
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Overreach THIS!
May 2, 2010 5:47 PM
The "if you will" is great, you know? "Terrorist attacks, if you will."
I bought a food processor over the weekend (after my ex stole mine) and not all of the parts were there. I realized I had sustained a "terrorist attack, if you will" by the store that sold me this incomplete merchandise. If you will, that is.
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DingBat
May 3, 2010 12:54 AM in reply to Overreach THIS!
Yep...It sounds like your ex...if you will..might be a terrorist.
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Overreach THIS!
May 3, 2010 6:47 AM in reply to DingBat
They're everywhere, DB!
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May 2, 2010 11:38 PM
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Regulator2010
May 3, 2010 1:18 AM
Arizona is under attack from carpetbagging Republicans coming here from other states and making everyone look like TeaBaggers. Sen. McCain was born in Panama and grew up spending a lot of time on the family plantation in Mississippi, where his relatives owned slaves. Sen. Kyl is the son of a US Congressman from Nebraska. Gov. Janice Brewer is from California, where we are trying to ascertain if she actually graduated from high school, or whether she merely obtained a G.E.D. J.D. Hayworth is the only man who could make me "like" McCain. Hayworth is a southern boy from North Carolina, who traveled to Arizona from South Carolina in 1987. He is a TeaBagger/Birther in every sense of the words. Carpetbaggers, all of them. Illegal carpetbaggers, too. Check their birth certificates. Not a native Arizonan in the bunch.
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IndisputableAttitude
May 4, 2010 2:52 PM
The Arizona state government is already going to catch hell for this law, and the political careers of any White Arizonapolitician that supported this has now hit the upper ceiling within in this System.
Thus, this isn't the time for them to soften up, weaken the law, and piss away their ability to bring forth an effective solution.
If they do what must be done, RIGHT NOW, these White politicians will be received as heroes by most White Americans, and their state will not be isolated in taking action. Other states will be forces to follow suit, because many of the Whites there will see what happened in Arizona, they will see what is possible when power exercises itself to actually stop the illegal immigration problem, and then they won't put up with anything less or any excuses from their own state officials.
Arizona needs to act decisively RIGHT NOW. Resolve the problem decisively, root and branch, and then let the supporters and the opponents around the country battle it out after the fact. Arizona needs to mass-corral everyone darker/browner than the typical White, and flush them in mass down the sewer system into Mexico. To find the necessary means and manpower, Arizona should take out the struggle to the loyal citizens of Arizona themselves (heck, they could call on all real Americans to help too)..calling for volunteers (encouraged to "exercise their Second Amendment freedoms" to the greatest degree possible and to bring all heavy duty trucks, and large personnel and freight transport vehicles at their disposal---White supporters would get the hint), active logistical/transport support, and emergency material/financial donations to the effort. If the Governor issued such a call to the loyal supporters and forced every Arizona media outlet to carry it publicly by emergency order (I'd go farther and put all statewide media under emergency state control until further notice, then put supporters with communication skills and the right mass message at the helm each of them) , and declared the day an emergency mandatory business holiday, and issued strict orders to her state government officials and law enforcement and National Guard to comply with, you know that there would be hundreds of thousands of willing Whites showing up to make things happen and to offer any assistance. These many supporters know exactly where the 'illegals' live and work. Too damn easy! Especially since the minute such message was broadcast on air by the Governor, you know that most of the Browns would be fleeing as fast as they could for the border...like their lives depended upon it. This refugee flood out would not be hindered...a safe secured corridor toward Mexico would be keep an exit open to the many Browns trying to get out of Dodge. Main focus would be on Brown resistance elements and stubborn Browns who refused/failed to self-deport. Resistance elements would be dealt with as enemy combatants/terrorists. All Browns who failed to self-deport would be immediately packed onto transport vehicles and sped down a different controlled corridor toward Mexico's border, then offloaded and sent across that border.
It would take less than 48 hours to remove almost the entire Brown population in Arizona. That window is decisive and has to be successfully accomplished, before the feds and the whole anti-White genocidal coalition has enough time to effectively respond. By the time Washington anti-White cowboys ride into Arizona, it will be too late, and they will face an armed and organized White Arizona. All of America would be instantly polarized onto one side or the other, and the divide line would go much deeper that it did between North and South in the War Between the States. Whites in other states would be raising hell and forcing their own state governments to follow suit, and the Washington-NYC-Hollywood axis of evil wouldn't be able to easily put out the spreading wildfire this time.
Time is of the essence. The time to act is now, Governor. Do the deed, and you have a good chance of coming out on top in the end. You won't be alone.
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DingBat
May 4, 2010 9:20 PM in reply to IndisputableAttitude
I am not at all optimistic on this. I am with the Governor but I believe this battle will be lost.
This has become a political battle for power and the left already have the superior voting numbers, the ACLU and Supreme Court in their pockets.
We will eventually become another shit hole like Europe.
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Tosh
May 12, 2010 7:38 AM
Boy? I'm in a Den of misguided liberals and I'm having fun.
Seriously, The borders should be protected with nothing short of deadly force. Criminal aliens are criminals.
If the law was enforced at the border, this legislation wouldn't be necessary.
Why is Racism always the issue when non-white people commit crimes? Criminals are criminals.
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