
Sarah Palin suggested on Fox News yesterday that President Obama may have been slow to respond to the Gulf Coast oil spill because of his ties with Big Oil -- and that the "mainstream media" is letting him get away with it.
"I think that there is perhaps a hesitancy to -- I don't really know how to put this, Chris, except to say that the oil companies who have so supported President Obama in his campaign and are supportive of him now -- I don't know why the question isn't asked by the mainstream media and by others if there's any connection with the contributions made to President Obama and his administration and the support by the oil companies to the administration."
If there's any connection there to President Obama taking so doggone long to get in there, to dive in there and grasp the complexity and the potential tragedy that we are seeing here in the Gulf of Mexico. Now if this was President Bush or if this were a Republican in office who hadn't received as much support even as President Obama has from BP and other oil companies, you know the mainstream media would be all over his case.
Watch:
White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs struck back at Palin in a later appearance on Face The Nation.
"I'm almost sure that the oil companies don't consider the Obama administration a huge ally," he said. "We proposed a windfall profits tax when they jacked their oil prices up to charge more for gasoline.
"My suggestion to Sarah Palin would be to get slightly more informed as to what's going on in and around oil drilling in this country."
Watch:


JennOfArk
May 24, 2010 10:12 AM
Shut up, stupid lady.
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Sailormarlowe
May 24, 2010 10:23 AM in reply to JennOfArk
Speak in your mellifluous, melodious, mesmerizing voice, Lady Sarah. Continue to be the Voice of Real America. Let the heathen rage, and continue to walk tall, stand proud. You are right on the issues, right for America!
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CranialRectalLoopback
May 24, 2010 10:37 AM in reply to Sailormarlowe
Ha! Teen whore who have birth to a teen whore. Definitely my kind of values!
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clemenceau
May 24, 2010 12:36 PM in reply to CranialRectalLoopback
Are you the disgruntled ghost of Leo Strauss? Don't they show Westerns on the other side?
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clemenceau
May 24, 2010 12:38 PM in reply to clemenceau
oops, meant to reply to sailor the myth maker
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jeffgee
May 24, 2010 10:43 AM in reply to Sailormarlowe
Better clean up that sticky mess on yer keyboard, Sailor.
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maggie33
May 24, 2010 10:43 AM in reply to Sailormarlowe
I always think your comments are a joke. Are they? Are you just making up this stuff to instigate conversation? Please explain yourself so I can know if I should laugh or be outraged by the inanity of your comments.
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UTMark
May 24, 2010 11:07 AM in reply to maggie33
No kidding, I have the same problem. I can't figure out if he's doing great satire or if he's just another delusional knucklehead.
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mrdufus2u
May 24, 2010 11:09 AM in reply to maggie33
Just laugh. It's the appropriate reaction whether he means what he says or not. In fact, laugh harder if it turns out he means it.
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Davran
May 24, 2010 12:02 PM in reply to maggie33
I'm becoming more and more convinced that Sailorman is a satirical sock puppet.
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Cornelius
May 24, 2010 3:16 PM in reply to maggie33
just laugh.
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larsvanness
May 24, 2010 10:53 AM in reply to Sailormarlowe
Sorry, swabby but your caribou barbie doesn't speak for me and besides she has been an oil industry whore for a decade and a half. This is just political theater for you and her anyway because after following your comments for several months now it is clear that you have no ones interests at heart and certainly not the interests of your country.
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zonk
May 24, 2010 10:57 AM in reply to Sailormarlowe
How can she be "right" on the issues when she continues her multi-year of tour demonstrating a lack of understanding of them (or even what they are)?
...and let me see if I got this straight - she's going after Obama because he's not being hard enough on big oil?
Has she cleared this with Rand Paul? I thought "accidents happen" and criticism of BP was 'unAmerican'.
I'm getting whiplash here, sailorboy -- which is it?
I'm pretty sure it's intellectually dishonest to lay claim to both ends of the spectrum -- I don't think you can criticize Obama for BOTH being too easy on big oil AND too hard on big oil at the same time.
How about Rand and Sarah work this out between themselves and get back to us on which is the real conservative position?
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Dorn76
May 24, 2010 11:21 AM in reply to Sailormarlowe
She doesn't know what those words mean.
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It's Pat
May 24, 2010 11:22 AM in reply to Sailormarlowe
I agree. Listening to her soothes the heart. Her voice is like an ever sweet melody in the horrendous storm of corporate socialist fascist welfare. Everything she says is the unadulterated, unfiltered, unscripted truth. God bless that real American.
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Teched teacher
May 24, 2010 9:30 PM in reply to It's Pat
I am looking forward to the field day the other real entertainment news networks will have with this stupid comment by Palin. It's amazing to me how many people take the Fox network news seriously.
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philn
May 24, 2010 11:50 AM in reply to Sailormarlowe
Are you a writer for Jon Stewart or perhaps Colbert? Your comments could not be any more ridiculous and seem to be right up Colbert's alley. If not, you might consider that as a career.
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clemenceau
May 24, 2010 12:38 PM in reply to Sailormarlowe
Are you the disgruntled ghost of Leo Strauss? Don't they show Westerns on the other side?
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Bravo_Kilo
May 24, 2010 2:52 PM in reply to Sailormarlowe
Haha! I read Sailor's post and assumed it was sarcasm, then I realized who wrote it.
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Teched teacher
May 24, 2010 9:23 PM in reply to Sailormarlowe
Another Fox News junky just looking for something to entertain the unhappy and misguided antigovernment conservatives.
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jeffgee
May 24, 2010 10:41 AM in reply to JennOfArk
That was no lady, that was the voice of crazy.
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Barry Champlain
May 24, 2010 10:53 AM in reply to JennOfArk
You kidding? Best thing she ever did.
What are the chances, now, That President Obama is going to keep letting BP run the show, and make this phony-baloney, fascist ditz look like a hero?
It's all good... let's wait and see if he takes the "Socialist" bait and does something strong with these bastards.
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Cornelius
May 24, 2010 11:11 AM in reply to Barry Champlain
Think you got the inside track here. BP never had a back-up plan and the President (and country) can't wait any longer. If it takes Palin to get him to act so be it and if the WH sees this as simply political theater we all lose. This is not just another oil spill. It is a catastrophic event.
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again
May 24, 2010 1:15 PM in reply to Barry Champlain
Sorry, but a month afterward is rather a bit late for the Obama-style Gary Cooper act to swoop in last-minute and convince the public....
And Deus ex machina only works in theatre....
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Cornelius
May 24, 2010 3:27 PM in reply to again
And the options are: let BP continue working off the back of an envelope, watch the Gulf Stream pull the oil around FL and up the east coast, listen to Palin's self-serving garbage, or show leadership and do the "Obama-style Gary Cooper act". Time for audacity!! Show me SOMETHING.
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NerdRage
May 24, 2010 1:18 PM in reply to JennOfArk
do you think its possible to experience physical pain after continually being exposed to another person's rampant and willful ignorance?
yet at the same time be unable to NOT expose yourself to that person every time she says something unimaginably idiotic?
...its really bothering me
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jsdc007
May 24, 2010 10:13 AM
She's a shameless one, that oil lackey, Sarah.
It's amazing that this paid shill for the oil industry is now acting as if she were some environmentalist.
Btw, didn't her buddy Rand Clueless Paul say that the President is being too hard on BP?
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May 24, 2010 1:10 PM in reply to jsdc007
Ask Carville if Obama is being too hard on BP... even if it's not on TPM today.
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Pete Bilderback
May 24, 2010 10:14 AM
Sometimes I think it must be kind of cool to have absolutely no sense of shame. Drill baby drill!
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Libertine
May 24, 2010 10:15 AM
Ya know what? If anybody is an expert on being in bed with Big Oil it is Caibou Barbie. On this issue, and only this issue, she finally, and actually, does have credibility with me. She is still an idiot on everything else but on this issue she knows her stuff...drill baby drill.
And as far as the denials from Gibbs he convienently left out that the president supports expanding offshore drilling. Of course it is understandable why that factoid would slip his mind at the time.
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jsfox
May 24, 2010 10:55 AM in reply to Libertine
And yet:
NYTimes
It seems the oil companies think Sarah and the GOP will make better partners.
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Libertine
May 24, 2010 11:51 AM in reply to jsfox
Sure but 25% of their money is still big money. And with the Obama support for offshore drilling, and his handling of BP with kid gloves so far, maybe that % will be increasing for the Dems. I guess Wall Street, traditionally one of the D's best supporters, is pissed at the president and are giving more money to the R's...the drop off in contributions have to be made up somewhere.
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Cornelius
May 24, 2010 12:08 PM in reply to Libertine
"It's nothing personal. Just business."
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Libertine
May 24, 2010 12:12 PM in reply to Cornelius
Was it Don Corleone who originally said that?
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Cornelius
May 24, 2010 3:41 PM in reply to Libertine
Godfather came to mind when I finished your post. Couldn't respond sooner as I was enjoying the connolis. Not sure if Godfather originated the "nothing personal" line.
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jsfox
May 24, 2010 1:02 PM in reply to Libertine
Palin Wrong; Dog Bites Man; Sun Rises In East
Sometime Libertine your default position re: Obama isn't always the right one.
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May 24, 2010 1:19 PM in reply to jsfox
Regardless of the proportions of the spending, the admin's toothless handling of the situation does call into question how BP's donations to Obama have influenced his feckless approach to this disaster
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calbearinillinois
May 24, 2010 1:40 PM in reply to again
What would you have the government do, exactly? The US government doesn't have any in-house expertise on dealing with this sort of issue - as with a ton of other technical fields. It is one of the joyous side effects of letting corporations by and large self-regulate.
So the choice was to let BP try and handle it or take away their property (which everyone knows the GOP would have been in favor of, after all). If the WH had cut BP out, they would have had to turn to someone else in the same industry (like everyone's buddy Halliburton) or develop a brand new skill set.
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May 24, 2010 2:29 PM in reply to calbearinillinois
What could he do? Show some spine and replace the corrupt Salazar.
What could the poor dear do? Start cleaning house.
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May 24, 2010 1:24 PM in reply to jsfox
Could you provide stats that are BP- specific for 2008 election, rather than generalized industry donations? After all, the question is not how the admin is responding to a historically disastrous gusher in the gulf, but to a BP-specific historically diastrous gusher in the gulf.
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jsfox
May 24, 2010 4:08 PM in reply to again
Based on Open Secrets.org which list all political contributions
BP and/or British Petroleum gave a whopping $89K to the Obama campaign.
Since donations to the next cycle are not up this is all there is.
Next Obama took $1837.00 in PAC money.
Search results:
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mrdufus2u
May 24, 2010 11:11 AM in reply to Libertine
Bog Oil is a promiscuous lover. It will go to bed with anybody.
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Dorn76
May 24, 2010 11:24 AM in reply to Libertine
Lib, so now you've gone as far as agreeing with a blow-up doll to make your case against Obama?!
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Libertine
May 24, 2010 11:47 AM in reply to Dorn76
No. I know what she is about but like a broken clock she is prone to be right twice a day. I think she isn't doing this to attack Obama as much as trying to vindicate her drill baby drill position by saying on this issue she is no different than the president.
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Jaycal
May 24, 2010 11:29 AM in reply to Libertine
She's just jealous of anyone trying to push her out of bed.
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Libertine
May 24, 2010 11:48 AM in reply to Jaycal
That is probably the best explanation of it I've heard.
;^)
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condew
May 24, 2010 10:17 AM
Palin is a right-wing entertainer, just like Rush. Saying stupid and outrageous things is normal for that sort. You know, like "Drill, baby, Drill".
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Rick Jones
May 24, 2010 10:23 AM in reply to condew
At one point in the interview with Wallace, Palin referred to a recent article by Ann Coulter. Now, that was both entertaining and enlightening, and it gives an incite into what Palin actually reads.
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TeddyKGB
May 24, 2010 10:28 AM in reply to Rick Jones
What Palin actually reads?
"Um, all of 'em, any of 'em that've been in front of me all these years."
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CherStoleMyFace
May 24, 2010 10:18 AM
OMG, this is too awesome.
She is the gift that keeps on giving. Keep talking Sarah, you amuse the hell out of me.
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Given Up
May 24, 2010 10:33 AM in reply to CherStoleMyFace
Actually she scares me, there are too many people who believe whatever bile she spews at any given moment, someone this crazy with that kind of power is terrifying.
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It's Pat
May 24, 2010 11:26 AM in reply to Given Up
What's more shameless is everything she says ends up being repeated by the media --- the same "lamestreet" media Palin constantly derides.
Perhaps if they would not constantly quote her Facebook entries or repeat everything she says, she'd finally slink off back to Alaska.
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ooo ooo
May 24, 2010 10:20 AM
shill Baby shill
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CF2K
May 24, 2010 10:21 AM
Hard to argue with BibleSpice on this one. Obama made his offshore bed; let him lie in it.
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Given Up
May 24, 2010 10:30 AM in reply to CF2K
It'd be hard to say that he "made his offshore bed" on this one, granted he was going to allow further drilling but this operation had been in place for quite a while, in fact the best target for any blame right now would be the Bush administration who allowed BP to bypass the requirement that they have a safeguard in place to prevent this kind of thing.
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CF2K
May 24, 2010 10:35 AM in reply to Given Up
Given Up,
The fact that BP got what they wanted from Bush isn't the point: Obama's ongoing commitment to drilling in the Gulf, and the Coast Guard's deference to BP's commercial perogatives, put him squarely in BP's corner.
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Given Up
May 24, 2010 10:51 AM in reply to CF2K
Last I heard any further drilling had been put on hold, that's not exactly what I'd call an ongoing commitment.
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Dorn76
May 24, 2010 11:26 AM in reply to Given Up
Look at the NYT today. Permits still being granted.
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/24/us/24moratorium.html?hp
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Big K
May 24, 2010 11:31 AM in reply to Given Up
New drilling has stopped, kinda sorta:
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/24/us/24moratorium.html?hp
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again
May 24, 2010 1:27 PM in reply to Big K
Kinda sorta not...
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TeddyKGB
May 24, 2010 10:26 AM
Sarah Palin: lowering the bar for brain-dead hypocrites everywhere.
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Sailormarlowe
May 24, 2010 10:26 AM
Sexy Sarah, she our Queen
Hottest babe we ever seen.
We follow her to Hell & back.
You better listen to me, Jack!
She bring us joy, she give us hope.
We do her will, come Day of Rope.
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AJM
May 24, 2010 10:36 AM in reply to Sailormarlowe
If you follow her you are apt to end in Hell and not come back. Her moral positions are ridiculous and her policy positions are apt to create Hell on Earth.
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UTMark
May 24, 2010 11:01 AM in reply to Sailormarlowe
Sexy Sarah, you're such a fool.
just another shameless too-ooo-ool.
just another shameless too-ooo-ool,
sexy Sarah, ahh, your such a fool.
One shining day, wingnuts were waiting for a lover,
you came along to turn on the brain-numb,
sexy Sarah, your the latest and greatest of them all.
(I know it's not much, but hopefully John would approve.)
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Given Up
May 24, 2010 10:27 AM
Ahhh, delicious delicious irony. Now if you'll excuse me I'm going to go bang my head against a wall.
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KingCool
May 24, 2010 10:31 AM
Bizarro World.
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jsfox
May 24, 2010 10:35 AM
Coming from the lady who championed the phrase "drill baby drill" this is funny.
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blkblt
May 24, 2010 1:10 PM in reply to jsfox
she was talking to Todd.
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CranialRectalLoopback
May 24, 2010 10:36 AM
Who wants to bet that Fail'n Palin uses a teleprompter in her new "Alaska studio from home" so she can sound more lucid and educated as the answers are fed to her?
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DwH
May 24, 2010 10:36 AM
Shut this b iyatch up already. Totally irrelevant. Without Fox and cronies paying her top keep spouting off she'd be gone, baby, gone. What a tool.
I was so happy when Bush disappeared from the national stage (after destroying most of it), but what a drag that he has merely been replaced by this walking piece of trash.
Can you at least NOT feature that nasty mean little face as a headline? Why subject us to this? And who the hell cares WHAT she's been told to say about the president.
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brooklynmatt
May 24, 2010 10:39 AM
I'm confused. Rush sez Obama's in bed with the eco-terrorists, Randy Paul sez he's un-American for criticizing BP, now Palin says he's in bed with BP? Which Right-wing talking point should I believe??
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jeffgee
May 24, 2010 10:46 AM in reply to brooklynmatt
Whichever one Fox decides is the message du jour.
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zonk
May 24, 2010 11:02 AM in reply to brooklynmatt
No kidding.
It's one thing to parrot meaningless nonsense, devoid of facts - but at least do it in an ideologically consistent way.
When the mighty wurlitzer cannot even maintain that ideological consistency -- WTF?
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farnsworth
May 24, 2010 11:25 AM in reply to brooklynmatt
We have always been at war with East Asia.
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It's Pat
May 24, 2010 11:31 AM in reply to brooklynmatt
It's one big liberullll conspiracy towards world domination and godlessness..
Just await your orders from George Soros. He'll fill in the details later.
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Owen
May 24, 2010 10:40 AM
I'm concerned that Fox viewers are going to get whiplash trying to keep track of the conservative point of view. Is Rand Paul right that Obama is un-American in his criticism of BP, or is Palin right that Obama is a BP lacky? Same goes for financial reform, is he a corporate stooge or a socialist?
With all the hysterics on the right, the Dems look like a model of steady leadership. Too bad right now everyone wants boldness instead of steadiness, even if no one can identify any bold steps that would fix the economy, the oil spill, Afghanistan, health care, Social Security, etc.
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NuttyProf
May 24, 2010 10:40 AM
who is this and why does she talk that way?
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tommyo
May 24, 2010 10:49 AM
Sure she's a self-promoting fraud and mental deficient, but Obama has given her and the rest of the right plenty of legitimate ammunition with his passive, politically calculated "BP owns mess, not us" response to this disaster.
He appears to be either weak, corrupt or both.
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It's Pat
May 24, 2010 11:38 AM in reply to tommyo
BP is responsible for this. The president is right on that. If he had stepped in and took over and not stopped the leak, we'd be blaming him and saying why didn't he allow BP to fix it. There would also be a big hue and cry about government takeover and not allowing free market.
This was a lose-lose situation, no matter what he did.
BP is for now financially responsible. When the leak (finally) stops, they will be responsible for the cleanup and future costs, not the taxpayers.
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May 24, 2010 1:32 PM in reply to It's Pat
But you're looking at this will PLAY, rather than addressing the function/purpose of the Presidential office when a disaster occurs.
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calbearinillinois
May 24, 2010 2:04 PM in reply to again
You seem to think that amounts to stepping in, whether you have any idea what you are doing or not, and demanding people follow you. We had someone like that for 8 years. That isn't how President Obama operates, and not what this situation requires.
We can slap BP up one side and down the other, but it doesn't change the fact that only the oil industry has any expertise in dealing with crap like this.
Now, Carville is mad because Obama isn't righteous beating BP in the public square. He also didn't have a clue about why Obama didn't spend all of 2008, 2009 and 2010 beating his enemies, real and imagined, about the head and neck. He doesn't get that this President can't afford to be any more of a lightning rod than he is just by existing.
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May 24, 2010 2:27 PM in reply to calbearinillinois
' He doesn't get that this President can't afford to be any more of a lightning rod than he is just by existing.'
what you're suggesting is that any criticism of his fecklessness is invalid because the poor dear has his lightning-rod hands tied behind his back.
You're also basically suggesting that his 'lightning-rod status' makes him inoperable as an actual president. He's like spidey-man or something, he's a complete victim upon whom we should have zero expectations.
Good grief. And you're on his side?
At the very least he should be canning or suspending Salazar. At the least.
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calbearinillinois
May 24, 2010 2:35 PM in reply to again
So you'd fire someone who had nothing to do with the accident because they couldn't unilaterally change the nature of the oil industry? Or is it because Salazar doesn't have the staff and resources to fix the problem he didn't create? For symbolism's sake, I suppose? Then what?
That is not leadership, it is being a spectacle. I support President Obama because unlike you, and Carville, he actually wants to get this job done rather than screaming and making heads roll so that little people feel like "something" is being done.
Being a leader is much more than making the most noise. You may not appreciate it, but in the long run it is much better for our nation for President Obama to work the problem rather than ranting and raving.
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May 24, 2010 2:41 PM in reply to calbearinillinois
'I support President Obama because unlike you, and Carville, he actually wants to get this job done...'
that might be a valid statement if he were in truth 'getting the job done'.
The job he seems set on getting done seems repeatedly to be continuing to serve as a tool for the gamut of corporate interests.
There is more than enough reason to ask for Salazar's resignation; anyone within breathing distance of the spill knows that, beltway tools notwithstanding.
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WaitWut?
May 24, 2010 3:01 PM in reply to calbearinillinois
Excellent pount. Most of the anti-Obama comments are coming from those who think the whole answer to this spill is to point fingers and yell about it. I'm no oil expert and have no answers. I'll leave the decisions up to the man that I voted for and trust. He may make mistakes, but it's better than I would do and far better than our previous albatross would've done.
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Butch
May 24, 2010 10:50 AM
But why, TPM, do you make the latest drivel from Palin your top story? The woman would need a week's coaching to recite the alphabet and has never once put forward a serious policy proposal. Why give her the attention?
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Given Up
May 24, 2010 10:54 AM in reply to Butch
Because she is funny?
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It's Pat
May 24, 2010 11:44 AM in reply to Butch
This.
I know I am contributing also (too) but I can't help but wonder what would happen if the media stops reporting her every fart? If they stop talking about her and every useless drivel she spouts is not reported, maybe she'd go away.
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justaJ0e
May 24, 2010 12:55 PM in reply to Butch
I've got to agree.
If outlets like TPM would stop amplifying her noise, she'd simply fade into an annoying background hum.
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mjtrac2
May 24, 2010 10:58 AM
Sarah Palin is like Pravda: you don't listen to her to learn the truth, but she's a great indicator of what the "shady power" wants to propagandize. In Palin's case, the "shady power" is the Norquist/Rove/corporate/wealth axis.
This batch has proven that you can lie and lie and lie and, if you do it using modern techniques, people will listen to what you say. They are always exploring to find out just how much they can get away with.
Our only hope is that by constructing such a staggering record of lies, they have built a huge malevolent tapestry that, once it begins to unravel, will unravel completely and quickly. Joe McCarthy didn't last long after "have you no sense of decency." But that was a different America.
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Evelyn_S
May 24, 2010 12:06 PM in reply to mjtrac2
You're right.
The PR people are slicker now, more sophisticated, while the general public seems to be at least as naive and somewhat less educated as the population in the 1950's.
They've been propagandized to on TV throughout their lives. The lies are woven into their understanding of the world. "Sadam had WMD, you know, and attacked us on 9/11....."
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clemenceau
May 24, 2010 12:47 PM in reply to mjtrac2
The irony is that she is the neocons' baby, an American myth in the making.
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hey norm
May 24, 2010 11:19 AM
McCain/Palin recieved twice as much money from Big Oil than Obama recieved. Even Hillary got more. Palin is an idiot and, in the fine tradition of W. And Dick, a coward.
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caterpillar23
May 24, 2010 11:22 AM
First of all, FNN=TABLOID TRASH and S.P, along with "Ranting O'Reilly, "Hateful Hannity," Ann "Poltergeist," "Mush Lamebrain" and "Mad" Glenn Beck are all verbal terrorists. I might add that the spewing of their vile bile is contributing to the polarization of this country. Also, Sarah is actually a pathetic (but smart enough) woman cashing in on her so-called popularity and is laughing all the way to the bank; most of her followers, in my opinion, don't seem to too informed. Even the "elite" members of the Republican party are keeping their distance from the likes of her and her ilk!
What I find ironic is that is was G.W. Bush and his father that were and still are "in bed" with the oil industry, especially Saudi Arabia. Ask yourselves: Why did we invade Iraq? Was it because Bush was retaliating against S. Hussein's bungled attempt to assassinate G. H. W. Bush or was it oil related? Oh, I forgot! It was those pesky WMD that were never found. Bush duped most of us. I would strongly recommend the DVD "Uncovered: The War On Iraq" if you want the truth. Many of the individuals interviewed in this tape were from the G.W. Bush admin. It's a shocker and an eyeopener account for the real truth seekers. Sorry, Sarah you just are not a credible person. When I hear your shrill of a voice, I turn the channel! Also, Sarah, remember Katie Couric and Bush's Katrina? Such hubris!
Bev of Boston, MA
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Apphouse50
May 24, 2010 11:26 AM
ROTFLMAO.
It's nice to know there are somethings you can count on. Like that it's Monday and Sarah Palin is still an idiot.
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JEP07
May 24, 2010 11:27 AM
Palin's hypocrisy knows no bounds.
I think Salazar telegraphed to the public yesterday that they are looking to step in and take over (much too late, but better late than never) because the corporate bullies have been missing their promised deadlines.
People seem to be suggesting that this is all proof of Obama's cozy connections with the corporte machine, but to me it looks like i is much more evidence that there IS a shadow government of corporate and Wall Street power mongers, especially in the energy field, that has power above and beyond our elected government, and that it will take a total revision of that profane reality for the government to be able to step in.
Obama's not weak, by any means, and I don;t believe he is a willing partner in this stalling. But the powers that are behind the drilling in the first place have more actual power than our own government, especially in their military connections.
And obviously, there is a miscreant membership in our society (the Groverites) that will cry bloody murder if the government tries to step in and take over, because they are myopic and obsessed about corporate protectionism. Just look at the comments of the likes of Middle Class Bill and Bulldog, it is clear they and many others will protect BP's sovereignty over our national sovereignty. They say it every time they defend the polluters and deride the environmentalists.
I really do not think we have any idea just how much power those corporate creeps really have, only they and the top government people really have an idea. I think the government's inability to step in (which I really believe they have been trying to do for a long time, but they have been denied by a bigger power) is more a reflection of the terrible power and greed that corporate entities have created in that shadow government, than it is an indictment of the Obama administration.
But I agree with so many of our commenters, it is time to defy that shadow government with every resource we have at or disposal.
I am always hopeful, but I am not so naive as to assume this will happen without a major upheaval in or facade-based democracy.
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calbearinillinois
May 24, 2010 2:18 PM in reply to JEP07
Your sentiment is correct, but somewhat hyperbolic. It isn't so much a "shadow government" as the natural consequence of taking what amounts to the "laissez faire lite" approach to corporate regulation. We've always done government on the cheap (something we learned well from the English), and sensitivity about "limited government" and tax aversion leads to situations where the vast majority of regulation is ineffective, voluntary or both. Every time government proposes even relatively minor regulation and oversight, you get the shit storm we saw over HCR with artificially complicated charts and claims of "government takeovers". So in the absence of a major disaster or scandal, nothing gets done.
Yet when a disaster occurs, someone invariably blames the government for not doing more. If we are fortunate, it will lead to a willingness to adopt some meaningful reforms. Most likely, though, it will just be used to blame the party in power.
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MiddleClassBill
June 12, 2010 6:03 PM in reply to JEP07
What did I say that was the basis for your comment that I am protecting BP's sovereignty over our own???
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GTFOOH
May 24, 2010 11:31 AM
Is'nt that the same necklace that Wilma Flintstone wears?
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NuttyProf
May 24, 2010 11:41 AM in reply to GTFOOH
omg that made me laugh out loud!
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JEP07
May 24, 2010 1:04 PM in reply to NuttyProf
Wilma was a Democrat.
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CVille Dem
May 24, 2010 11:33 AM
Irony of ironies -- Who did Sarah's husband work for in Alaska -- BIG OIL! He only quit when Sarah jumped on the money train.
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labman57
May 24, 2010 11:52 AM
And then the WSJ observes that McCain/Palin received many times more campaign money from the fossil fuel industries than did the Obama camp. Oops.
Sarah, every good lawyer knows that you don’t pose a question that will support your position unless you have done your homework and already know the answer.
Oh, yeah. I forgot. Palin knows nothing about being a lawyer, and she certainly doesn’t do her homework.
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Evelyn_S
May 24, 2010 11:54 AM
This IS Ms. "Drill baby drill" isn't it?
Even if what she says is somewhat true (like, doesn't big oil stand in line for Obama's favors somewhere WAY behind Wall Street, the military-industrial complex, big pharma, the insurance biz, multinational corporations generally) this person is the worst possible spokesperson for the notion.
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jcdc
May 24, 2010 12:07 PM
And I can see an IDIOT from my house!!!
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baba2nde
May 24, 2010 12:13 PM
She looks good on TV. Not so much on vacation. http://www.celebrity-gossip.net/celebrity_gallery/image_full/226429
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Marinus van der Lubbe
May 24, 2010 2:08 PM in reply to baba2nde
Ahhhccchh! When I used to call her 'Cellulite Sarah' I had no idea it was terminal celluliciousness!!!
Not my idea of a MILF...
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clemenceau
May 24, 2010 12:24 PM
Didn't her husband work for BP for 18 years on the North Slope? He must have know about the shoddy maintenance on the transit lines that led to the spill in 2006? It was so egregious that a felony criminal case was being built against BP. Then suddenly, in 2007, after Palin was took office, the case was suddenly settled. BP plead out to a corporate misdemeanor and paid a $20 million dollar fine. The original penalties were closer to $800 million.
One has to wonder that if BP had not managed to get off with a slap on the wrist in this case in Alaska (never mind Texas City) if the Deepwater Horizon disaster could have been avoided.
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justaJ0e
May 24, 2010 12:49 PM in reply to clemenceau
BTW - To put that fine into perspective.
Last year BP made a NET profit of 20.09 BILLION dollars.
That works out to about 55 million dollars NET profit, each and every day. So they made that 20 million dollar fine back by lunch time the next day.
When your company makes as much money per minute as these oil companies do, nothing short of jail time is really going to get your attention.
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clemenceau
May 24, 2010 1:00 PM in reply to justaJ0e
According to lead EPA criminal investigator they were building a strong felony criminal case against BP executives - that is until Bush Justice and the Alaskan authorities suddenly cut a deal.
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Ugot2bkidnme
May 24, 2010 12:26 PM
I have decided that John McCain is the anti-Christ and Sarah Palin is a genius. Ask yourself this - who knew anything about SP before McCain picked her as VP? She wasn't known at all outside AK. Some in the Republican Party may have pointed to her as a future star, but America didn't know her.
Soooooooo, the anti-Christ goes into deep left field and picks this unknown for VP. She bursts onto the national stage and in two years is worth $8+ million and has a national following. She speaks in fragmented sentences, can't put together a rational thought, but has made herself a national political figure worth millions of dollars. She's a complete idiot to be sure, but a genius-idiot. So, you tell me, is John McCain the anti-Christ or what?
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whataretheysmoking
May 24, 2010 12:29 PM
she is f'ugly.
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Mukoseev
May 24, 2010 12:34 PM
According to washingtonpost.com corporate contributions to republicans by the oil and gas industry for the 1st quarter of 2010 are up 28% over the same period last year and they're running 76%-24% in favor of republicans.
Dear Sarah,
Better to remain silent and thought a fool, then to speak and remove all doubt.
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davcbr
May 24, 2010 12:56 PM
Is it me, or is she looking more and more like Tina Fey?
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Smitallica
May 24, 2010 12:58 PM
When Sarah Palin speaks, it reminds me of when I sing along to the German version of "99 Luftballons." I'm just mimicking the words phonetically but actually have no idea what I'm saying.
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Pam
May 24, 2010 1:00 PM
You know when Sarah is lying.........it's when she open her mouth!
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again
May 24, 2010 1:06 PM
Why is it more important for tpm to report on what palin said, than what carville just said this weekend about the administration's 'naive' and 'lackadaisical' dealings with BP?
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JJNelson
May 24, 2010 1:13 PM
For once, she's right.
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calbearinillinois
May 24, 2010 1:31 PM
Every politician in America - at least every elected member of Congress - can be claimed to be "in bed" with Big Oil. But for SP - or any Republican - to claim the relationship of the oil industry with a Democrat is somehow to blame for the lack of a rapid solution to this problem is to ignore reality.
Sadly, the government doesn't have the expertise to fix this sort of problem which is why BP was able to a) underrepresent risks in getting a permit and b) get away with inadequate backup plans. It is also why if BP is pulled off the spill the government will have to subcontract the cleanup efforts to someone else (or pull a page from the Russians and nuke the spill site).
Long term we need stronger oversight here, just like on Wall Street, but doing so means being willing to pay a lot more for government regulators and staff.
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again
May 24, 2010 1:38 PM in reply to calbearinillinois
That may be so, but the President at the very least should be revoking some permits and opening a criminal investigation. Instead, it's a wrist slap. People have reason to question why more was not done earlier.
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calbearinillinois
May 24, 2010 1:55 PM in reply to again
Why would any permits be revoked? What happened here has nothing to do with other permitted oil rigs as far as we know. What is going on is an investigation of causes and review of same for next steps. If there is evidence of criminal behavior a referral will be made. To date, there's no such evidence that I'm aware of, as opposed to gross incompetence on the part of BP and an inadequate oversight structure.
You are suggesting simultaneously that this proves all oil drilling is unsafe (revocation/moratorium) or that there is evidence of criminality (which would argue against any moratorium since it would be localized). The fact you are going in polar opposite directions simultaneously suggests a lack of information - which is what the government is gathering.
In the meantime, the fact remains that there was no better response to make to this particular incident. Action for action's sake is worse than doing nothing, and far more than nothing has been done. The only more definitive response the government is capable of is setting off a nuclear warhead at sea floor level like the Russians - something that only works 80% of the time, which we have no experience of, and has massive environmental and political consequences arguing for it to be uses only as a last resort.
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May 24, 2010 2:03 PM in reply to calbearinillinois
'Why would any permits be revoked?'
are you serious? Get a grip.
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calbearinillinois
May 24, 2010 2:27 PM in reply to again
You first. You can't just terminate permits without a cause. This accident, as terrible as it is, is not a basis to shut down an entire industry. What occurred here is not an indictment of oil drilling in its entirety, but a blow out under particular circumstances without adequate backup. Every rig should be reviewed to ensure those circumstances can't re-occur, but that is a far cry from just yanking permits left and right.
The equivalent step would have been to pull the FAA licenses of United, American and a few other carriers in the wake of 9/11, since it demonstrated misuse of airplanes could lead to catastrophic results.
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May 24, 2010 2:36 PM in reply to calbearinillinois
'The equivalent step would have been to pull the FAA licenses of United, American and a few other carriers in the wake of 9/11, since it demonstrated misuse of airplanes could lead to catastrophic results.'
for reasons that should be obvious, that is a false equivalency. The damage from 9/11 was largely If not entirely contained with sensible airport security.
This is not the case in the BP Gulf disaster. There is clear evidence of criminal negligence and by some accounts criminal negligence. That is more than enough reason to put some pressure on bp by revoking permits, or at least to stop issuing new permits. Another action would be to ask Salazar to step down.
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again
May 24, 2010 2:44 PM in reply to again
Should read: 'and by some accounts criminal INTENT'
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The Professor of allostericantigens
May 24, 2010 1:46 PM
It is all right to talk to yourself.
It is even all right to answer yourself.
But if you say "HUH"?
That is not all right.
I think this is one of the moments while changing the grandbaby's diaper.
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Measure for Measure
May 24, 2010 1:53 PM
Ironically, Ms. Palin was presented as the oil expert during the 2008 campaign, though she gave no press conferences.
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jsdc007
May 24, 2010 2:06 PM
Where's Chevy Chase to say "shut up, Sarah, you ignorant sl*t" when you need him?
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justicexhaze
May 24, 2010 2:17 PM
News Flash! Sarah Palin found to have connections with STUPID.... for obvious reasons.
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absurdity 007
May 24, 2010 2:52 PM
Sarah,...why don't you just "dive in" and plug it up yourself with your ego. Did she just call for an investigation if the campaign contributions have anything to with Obama's lack of action? Why are democrats so nice to this quitter,....is there some unwritten rule that you can't call someone what she is....rethug mouthpiece disguised as eyecandy. You can't get any more fake than trying to make this idiot sound somewhat intellectual.....She's gotta be George Bush's soulmate.
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Jasper47
May 24, 2010 3:33 PM
You mean, to see someone in bed with someone means they have to be in bed with them to, umm, "see them in bed with them"? Huh? Drill me baby!
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free2bme
May 24, 2010 4:10 PM
Wow Sarah, you are amazing. You figured it out. You are too smart for us. Yes, Obama is in bed with Big Oil. We thought no one would find out. You also forgot to mention how he is in bed with all the Healthcare companies as well.
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windowpane
May 24, 2010 5:16 PM
Is that like being in bed with Todd's business partner?
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windowpane
May 24, 2010 5:22 PM
You been bad
Don't do what I say.
You don't listen.
And you never obey.
Try to teach you.
But you just won't be good.
You won't behave the way
A big girl should.
It's time to give the whip a crack.
I'm gonna have to send you back to
Bitch School.
Bitch School.
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LeaderofMen
May 24, 2010 5:47 PM
I don't know if there's a connection between the extreme stupidity of Sarah Palin and the 5 universities she had to attend to get a single degree.
But I'm guessing there's a connection there somewhere.
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Hobbes83
May 24, 2010 7:34 PM
I thought that the president was a fascist who wanted to nationalize everything? The right is willing to willfully contradict themselves just to blast the president on anything. If Obama is in bed with Big Oil, he must be a slut because of all the other industries that they accuse him of being in bed with.
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Arundhati
May 24, 2010 8:07 PM
Gov. Sarah Palin is such a beautiful woman. Just think of all the hate & vitriol jealous lefties would sling at her if she was 36, rather than 46? There would be a planetary melt-down of hysterical envy.
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clemenceau
May 24, 2010 10:20 PM
It wasn't lefties that labeled her a whackjob diva and a Wasilla hillbilly looting Nieman Marcus from coast to coast. Lefties love her. She got their candidate elected president.
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Logan
May 25, 2010 8:01 AM
I can't believe the repubz are giving O'Bam shit about oil companies, when George Bush owned oil fields and his boyfriend was the prince of Saudi Oil-rabia and under him, gas prices were higher than ever. Wanna talk about response times? Maybe if we'd told GW that the drowning black people in LA in 2005 were made of oil, he'd have had a better response time on that.
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Tosh
May 28, 2010 8:31 PM
What I find ironic is that is was G.W. Bush and his father that were and still are "in bed" with the oil industry, especially Saudi Arabia. Ask yourselves: Why did we invade Iraq? Was it because Bush was retaliating against S. Hussein's bungled attempt to assassinate G. H. W. Bush or was it oil related? Oh, I forgot! It was those pesky WMD that were never found. Bush duped most of us. I would strongly recommend the DVD "Uncovered: The War On Iraq" if you want the truth. Many of the individuals interviewed in this tape were from the G.W. Bush admin. It's a shocker and an eyeopener account for the real truth seekers. Sorry, Sarah you just are not a credible person. When I hear your shrill of a voice, I turn the channel! Also, Sarah, remember Katie Couric and Bush's Katrina? Such hubris!
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