TPM LiveWire

Rachel Maddow: This Is The Oval Office Address I Wish Obama Had Given (VIDEO)

Share

Twitter Fark Reddit Send to a Friend

Send to a friend!

To email:    Your Name:    Your email:

Rachel Maddow was disappointed with President Obama's Oval Office address on Tuesday night about the Gulf Coast oil spill, so last night she decided to give her own version of the address, the version she wished the President had given instead.

In the address, fake-President Maddow emphasized how no company "will be allowed to drill in a location where they are incapable of dealing with the potential consequences of that drilling."

She also promised that "the United States Senate will pass an energy bill. This year. The Senate version of the bill will not expand offshore drilling," and her government will use reconciliation to pass the bill if Senators try to filibuster.

Maddow continued:

The political cowardice that has kept politicians from doing right by this country, finally, on energy, and standing up to the oil industry -- that cowardice has been drowned; drowned in oil on Queen Bess Island. There is a new reality in this country that has been forced on us by this disaster.

At the end, she added: "And I'm closing Guantanamo."

Watch:

Comments (64) | Join the Conversation!

June 17, 2010 11:26 AM   

Here's an idea - run for office. Being President doesn't come with a magic wand or a crown.

Reply | Flag Abuse

Are you sure this comment violates TPM's Terms of Service?

June 17, 2010 12:21 PM    in reply to Walter Mitty

This was an idiotic and egotistical display by Maddow. Shameful and immature. While she was giving her play speech, Obama got the people $20,000,000,000.

What an idiot.

Reply | Flag Abuse

Are you sure this comment violates TPM's Terms of Service?

June 17, 2010 2:48 PM    in reply to LadyBlahBlah

Sorry LadyBlahBlah (or is it LaLa?) and the rest of you critics of Rachel's performance, but it is you who are the idiots. Can you give me one reason why we should not expect a president who won an overwhelming mandate for change, and protect the interests of common Americans? Who cares whether Rachel's rant was naive or "impractical". The point is that we have a right have a president who will do whatever he/she can to protect our interests over corporate interests. Obama has not done that! He has protected corporate interests over our interests, and Rachel is right and to be commended for addressing this serious flaw in a man who promised things he apparently never intended to deliver. And for those of you who say, "but he said he would get us off our oil dependence, blah blah blah... If we have learned anything--and obviously we haven't--it is that talk is cheap, especially with this president who seems to think he can rhetorically hypnotize us.

I say hooray for Rachel! If you missed the message, then you either weren't listening or you are probably a wingnut mole.

Reply | Flag Abuse

Are you sure this comment violates TPM's Terms of Service?

June 17, 2010 2:55 PM    in reply to lariokie

It's the address I wanted to hear. I think everyone should email a copy to the White House.

Reply | Flag Abuse

Are you sure this comment violates TPM's Terms of Service?

June 17, 2010 3:05 PM    in reply to LadyBlahBlah

There is a long tradition in this country of people who hold minority views responding to speeches given by a member of the majority.

For instance, the minority party in congress responds after every State of the Union address. The minority also responds by going on news shows, holding press conferences and paying for ads to get their views out to the public.

What in the world is wrong or "shameful" about someone offering a differing view -- stating what THEY would do or say in response to a situation?

Besides the issue of free speech in and of itself, I think your logic about who has the right to speak without being "shameful" is scrambled.

Reply | Flag Abuse

Are you sure this comment violates TPM's Terms of Service?

June 17, 2010 12:43 PM    in reply to Walter Mitty

Here's another idea; look up the definition of the word critic. You don't have to be Picasso to know what good art looks like.

Reply | Flag Abuse

Are you sure this comment violates TPM's Terms of Service?

June 17, 2010 2:27 PM    in reply to Walter Mitty

No. That's the problem. Without magic many folk are just downright too stupid to understand the President. Case in point = my dad had trouble "following the speech because it's too complex" - I only heard about this trouble AFTER he had time to catch a Fox News Summary. So I sent this translation written in Hick. I know it's parody- but my dad finally GOT what the President was trying to say.
Obama's Oval Office Address Translated

Reply | Flag Abuse

Are you sure this comment violates TPM's Terms of Service?

June 17, 2010 11:38 AM   

Wow, so easy to give a speech where you don't have to think about what comes before or after. Obama has to follow up with action, she doesn't. He has to go and get votes, she doesn't. Her speech is a guaranteed hit with her audience and she doesn't have to watch the entire media analyze every single word that came out of her mouth.

Now I saw another piece today that Obama's speech was too professorial. Apparently the speech was at a 10th grade level and we're just too stupid to understand what Obama said.

And I don't care to hear any "rachel is a respected blah, blah, blah" - I know that. I've recommended her to others. She was naive on this. period.

Reply | Flag Abuse

Are you sure this comment violates TPM's Terms of Service?

June 17, 2010 11:53 AM    in reply to Viva!America!

MSNBC as a whole didn't really distinguish itself on this speech. They were at the level of the Huffington Post.

Reply | Flag Abuse

Are you sure this comment violates TPM's Terms of Service?

June 17, 2010 12:08 PM    in reply to fbacon2

Whoa. Low blow! :)

I co-sign Viva's remarks.

Reply | Flag Abuse

Are you sure this comment violates TPM's Terms of Service?

June 17, 2010 7:41 PM    in reply to de TOQUEville

I co-signed Viva's remarks and added some of my own below. I love Rachel but she goes off on a tangent sometimes. She's young and idealistic. Hopefully a dose of maturity will help her along the way.

Reply | Flag Abuse

Are you sure this comment violates TPM's Terms of Service?

June 17, 2010 12:37 PM    in reply to Viva!America!

Wow, so easy to give a speech where you don't have to think about what comes before or after. Obama has to follow up with action, she doesn't. He has to go and get votes, she doesn't. Her speech is a guaranteed hit with her audience and she doesn't have to watch the entire media analyze every single word that came out of her mouth.

So easy to have an opinion and express it dramatically. So easy to criticize a public official, particularly one who you want so badly to succeed. So easy to raise uncomfortable political points that get glossed over daily by political flacks like Gibbs to keep the masses mollified and pliable.

So easy? I think not. This is the job of the political pundit: to be the gadfly that keeps the politician moving in the right direction. You and Maddow may not agree with what that direction is, but you do her a hugh disservice by minimizing the skill and creativity that she employs to keep our elected representatives under scrutiny and responsive to us "small people." Frankly, I'd rather have her taking Obama & Company to task rather than leaving it to cretins like Limbaugh and Malkin. She at least gives credit where credit is due.

Reply | Flag Abuse

Are you sure this comment violates TPM's Terms of Service?

June 17, 2010 12:39 PM    in reply to Schmed

Meet my friend Hugh. He's huge.

Reply | Flag Abuse

Are you sure this comment violates TPM's Terms of Service?

slb

user-pic

June 17, 2010 2:25 PM    in reply to Schmed

This is the job of the political pundit: to be the gadfly that keeps the politician moving in the right direction.

Well said -- every bit of it.

Reply | Flag Abuse

Are you sure this comment violates TPM's Terms of Service?

June 17, 2010 2:59 PM    in reply to Viva!America!

Wow, so easy to give a speech where you don't have to think about what comes before or after. Obama has to follow up with action, she doesn't. He has to go and get votes, she doesn't. Her speech is a guaranteed hit with her audience and she doesn't have to watch the entire media analyze every single word that came out of her mouth.

well, how's about YOU at least try 'analyzing' at least a couple of the words that came out of her mouth??

what did she say that you disagree with?? what did she say that you think obama should not have said?? what did she say that you think would lose some of those 'votes' that you think obama needs to 'go and get'*?? *(and please tell me why you think it is more important for obama to spend his presidency campaigning for a second term than it is for him to actually BE president during the term that he has been elected to serve as president.)

Reply | Flag Abuse

Are you sure this comment violates TPM's Terms of Service?

June 17, 2010 6:27 PM    in reply to Viva!America!

I agree and I am a huge fan of Rachel and I even emailed her to tell her that in a perfect world maybe a president could give a speech like that but not in the real world, and certainly not the first Black President of the United States. Can you imagine if THIS President ever gave that kind of speech.

It's nice to be young and idealistic but maturity brings you closer to reality.

She should run for President so she can give that speech.

Reply | Flag Abuse

Are you sure this comment violates TPM's Terms of Service?

June 17, 2010 7:48 PM    in reply to Viva!America!

Right on Viva. I love Rachel too but she's young and very idealistic and maybe in a perfect world a president could give that speech but not the first Black President. Can you imagine if he gave such a speech. I doubt that any time in the future we will see any president give that kind of speech.

Reply | Flag Abuse

Are you sure this comment violates TPM's Terms of Service?

June 19, 2010 1:43 AM    in reply to chameleon

Good lord, can you imagine saying about FDR that we should never expect our first crippled president to go out on a limb an pass the New Deal? WTF are you people thinking? Why should we not expect from him EXACTLY what he promised? To not do so should be seen as political fraud, for God's sake. Wake up! If democracy is so meaningless to you that you can excuse a politician for having it rough, then you do not deserved democracy. No wonder the Democratic Party is such a mess! The Democratic constituency doesn't even give a shit.

Reply | Flag Abuse

Are you sure this comment violates TPM's Terms of Service?

June 17, 2010 11:51 AM   

Um, has anyone actually explored if reconciliation is really an option? This is what I remember about it, but then again, reconciliation has become the catch-all comeback when Obama critics can't understand why the Senate just sucks.
http://motherjones.com/blue-marble/2010/04/partisan-plan-b-climate

Reply | Flag Abuse

Are you sure this comment violates TPM's Terms of Service?

slb

user-pic

June 17, 2010 2:29 PM    in reply to fbacon2

I wasn't aware of that amendment, but I had thought that there could be only one reconciliation bill in any given year, an dif that's the case, reconciliation couldn't be used anyway for climate legislation this year.

In the next session of Congress, they need to unwind some of these ridiculous rules that keep the Senate from getting anything done except with 60 votes, or worse, unanimous consent.

Reply | Flag Abuse

Are you sure this comment violates TPM's Terms of Service?

June 17, 2010 11:53 AM   

Liberals need to listen what black people are telling those who think President Obama isn't doing enough for us. "Pres Obama was not the President of Liberal America, he's the President of the United States of America and his policies and actions have to reflect that" Among the other things Pres Obama has said that has been conveniently forgotten by his most ardent supporters was something he said on election night "for those of you who didn't vote for me, I understand but I will be your president too" (or something like that). Just as with escalating the war in Afghanistan, it's apparent his supporters thought he was "just saying that because it sounded good".

Reply | Flag Abuse

Are you sure this comment violates TPM's Terms of Service?

June 17, 2010 12:05 PM   

I like Rachel Maddow and most of what she does, but this stunt last night was a perfect example of why so many have come to so despire the media (no matter is "the media" is right, left, or somewhere in the middle). It was like a Saturday Night Live skit where the set has been made to resemble the oval office and some actor/comedian plays the president. Talk about self-indulgent arrogance from just one of the many "I'm so important" media darlings who didn't hear exactly what they wanted to hear in President Obama's speech. Poor baby Rachel, didn't get what she wanted - but then, unlike some with real jobs and real responsibilities (President Obamb), she did have time to indulge in some make-believe role playing. So, does little Rachel feel all better now?

Reply | Flag Abuse

Are you sure this comment violates TPM's Terms of Service?

June 17, 2010 12:43 PM    in reply to latinjum

Agree 100%, and is basically what I told Rachel in an email immediately after it aired.

Reply | Flag Abuse

Are you sure this comment violates TPM's Terms of Service?

June 17, 2010 2:35 PM    in reply to latinjum

I agree. When she criticizes a pronuncement from Pope, will they erect a balcony in front of her desk so that she can belt out her alternate version?

Reply | Flag Abuse

Are you sure this comment violates TPM's Terms of Service?

June 17, 2010 3:28 PM    in reply to tchamp77

why not??

Reply | Flag Abuse

Are you sure this comment violates TPM's Terms of Service?

June 17, 2010 3:29 PM    in reply to tchamp77

if she's gonna be cheeky, she should be cheeky.

Reply | Flag Abuse

Are you sure this comment violates TPM's Terms of Service?

June 17, 2010 3:00 PM    in reply to latinjum

Sorry you missed the point, Bub (latinjum). You must have been too wrapped up in the scenery to catch the message. Perhaps you should watch it again, only this time pay attention to the POINT of Rachel's "speech". Then ask yourself, would I rather have that kind of forcefull people-first response from my president, or the droning rhetoric of Mr. Change Goes To Washington.

Reply | Flag Abuse

Are you sure this comment violates TPM's Terms of Service?

June 17, 2010 3:19 PM    in reply to latinjum

i find the negative reaction here a bit hard to believe.

i'm betting most folks didn't even watch it (or at least all of it).

and i'm betting most folks don't like it just because they don't like it when anyone pisses on their obama parade.

anyone who actually watched it and doesn't have the thin skin of a schoolgirl with her first crush would not have been able to miss maddow's humility and waggishness in the clip.

of course if you didn't actually watch the clip you might imagine that maddow was saying what she would have said is SHE were president, when clearly she was saying what she wished obama had said. hence, "i, fake president obama,..." of course the confusion might just be that the bit involves playing around with first person direct address and maybe that's just a bit too much for most people to process.

Reply | Flag Abuse

Are you sure this comment violates TPM's Terms of Service?

June 17, 2010 11:36 PM    in reply to latinjum

I agree and I wrote her an email saying much the same. Maybe in a perfect world a president would give that speech but in a perfect world we wouldn't need it. Yeah, the first Black President of the U>S. could give a speech like that. How easy to do - just like getting health care reform passed. Rachel is young and idealistic. A dose of maturity and reality might help.

Reply | Flag Abuse

Are you sure this comment violates TPM's Terms of Service?

June 17, 2010 12:18 PM   

And now back to reality

http://www.tnr.com/blog/jonathan-chait/75643/liberal-despair-and-the-cult-the-presidency

Rachel Maddow offered a perfect example of the phenomenon the other night. She delivered her fantasy version of the speech President Obama should have given. It was filled with unequivocal liberal rhetoric. I was struck by this portion, explaining how she would pass an energy bill:

"The United States Senate will pass an energy bill. This year. The Senate version of the bill will not expand offshore drilling. The earlier targets in that bill for energy efficiency and for renewable energy-sources will be doubled or tripled.

If Senators use the filibuster to stop the bill, we will pass it by reconciliation, which still ensures a majority vote. If there are elements of the bill that cannot procedurally be passed by reconciliation, if those elements can be instituted by executive order, I will institute them by executive order."

In reality, you can't pass any of the climate bill by reconciliation. Democrats didn't write reconciliation instructions permitting them to do so, and very little of its could be passed through reconciliation, which only allows budgetary decisions. Maddow's response is to pass the rest by executive order. But you can't change those laws through executive order, either. That's not how our system of government works, nor is it how our system should work.

Reply | Flag Abuse

Are you sure this comment violates TPM's Terms of Service?

June 17, 2010 12:20 PM    in reply to jsfox

The only threshold for reconciliation is that the changes affect the budget. That's it.

Energy investments and savings meet that threshold and thus could be passed via reconciliation. Chait is wrong.

Reply | Flag Abuse

Are you sure this comment violates TPM's Terms of Service?

June 17, 2010 12:39 PM    in reply to Yalin

Only thiose pieces that actually effect budgetary out go or income. So you cannot pass sweeping climate/energy legislation with reconciliation. Bits and pieces yes.

Reply | Flag Abuse

Are you sure this comment violates TPM's Terms of Service?

June 17, 2010 12:24 PM    in reply to jsfox

How sad. Rachel is usually good at research. Here her ego got in the way and revealed her deep ignorance about how laws are made in this country, how executives orders are used, and how reconciliation is used. Very, very sad.

Thanks or the quote.

Reply | Flag Abuse

Are you sure this comment violates TPM's Terms of Service?

June 17, 2010 3:19 PM    in reply to LadyBlahBlah

revealed her deep ignorance about how laws are made in this country, how executives orders are used, and how reconciliation is used. Very, very sad.

Wait, what? Rachel's "deep ignorance"? It's Rachel Maddow you're referring to, right? Holy crap, regardless of what you might think about last night's skit, if you think she qualifies as deeply ignorant on those topics then you have a very, very high bar for "knowledgable".

Incidentally, in her fake speech she never fake-claimed that an entire climate bill could be fake-passed via reconciliation, nor that she could fake-issue executive orders to cover all of the rest. Her point was that everything that could be passed by other means (in case of senatorial filibuster) would be. It's a powerful fake message that I wouldn't mind hearing from the real President. Even if I know the doing will be orders of magnitude harder than the saying.

Reply | Flag Abuse

Are you sure this comment violates TPM's Terms of Service?

June 17, 2010 3:24 PM    in reply to LadyBlahBlah

no ignorance has been revealed.

the commenter is being excessively nit-picky and overly literal.

Reply | Flag Abuse

Are you sure this comment violates TPM's Terms of Service?

June 17, 2010 3:32 PM    in reply to fkaZk0sm0

see boidster above for the long version.

Reply | Flag Abuse

Are you sure this comment violates TPM's Terms of Service?

WCG

user-pic

June 17, 2010 9:42 PM    in reply to jsfox

I loved Maddow's speech, but I also enjoyed Jonathan Chait's correction. Yes, it's harder to accomplish this than she implies, but I still wish Obama had shown some fire AND, more importantly, proposed specific bold initiatives. The American people need to see some real LEADERSHIP from the President.

In reality, I'm a huge fan of all three of these people. So they disagree sometimes. So what? Would you rather they were Republicans, mindlessly parroting official dogma? Personally, I'd rather they say what they think. Passionately. And if they disagree, let's have a vigorous debate. After all, we're all on the same side.

Reply | Flag Abuse

Are you sure this comment violates TPM's Terms of Service?

June 17, 2010 12:19 PM   

Frankly I wish this was the speech President Obama gave. Lord knows the public polling and support for the kind of action Rachel espoused demanded it.

Reply | Flag Abuse

Are you sure this comment violates TPM's Terms of Service?

June 17, 2010 12:33 PM   

Sorry, but some of us who are disappointed former Obama supporters aren't fantasizing about some progressive utopia where the Senate and House rubberstamp whatever he wants.

No, some of us are upset because of his failure to live up to his own promises with regard to executive actions -- that is, the actions he doesn't require Congressional approval to take.

Like compromising Miranda. Keeping Guantanamo open. Habeaus Corpus. Extraordinary Rendition. Refusing to prosecute Bush administration criminals, but charging Bush administration whistleblowers. Defending illegal wiretapping in the Supreme Court. Authorizing assassination of American citizens.

No, you can't tell us that the progressive positions on these issue are too liberal for America -- Obama won the election promising to stop all these practices, so obviously the public was willing to go along with them.

You can't blame these broken promises on the filibuster. These are unilateral executive actions.

You can -- I suppose -- defend these decisions by saying he's learned more now that he's President. Fine. But then don't complain when we are disappointed that he broke all these promises to a large part of his volunteer base without even an explanation.

Reply | Flag Abuse

Are you sure this comment violates TPM's Terms of Service?

June 17, 2010 1:12 PM    in reply to Monument

very well said.

Reply | Flag Abuse

Are you sure this comment violates TPM's Terms of Service?

June 17, 2010 2:18 PM    in reply to Monument

+1.

Reply | Flag Abuse

Are you sure this comment violates TPM's Terms of Service?

June 17, 2010 12:35 PM   

Yikes! I haven't watched it (perhaps I will) but my initial reaction to its existence is highly negative. Not a good idea. Non-liberals will see this as arrogant and egoistic. It reinforces stereotypes of liberals that we live in fantasy land where we can just "make it so."

There are plenty of reasons for liberals to criticize Obama's speech but the criticism should move the discussion forward and I think this pushes it backward. No wonder the White House political operation occasionally distances itself from the left; the swing voters get turned off by this sort of nonsense.

Reply | Flag Abuse

Are you sure this comment violates TPM's Terms of Service?

June 17, 2010 3:34 PM    in reply to PeninsulaMatt

"I haven't watched it..."

say no more.

really.

Reply | Flag Abuse

Are you sure this comment violates TPM's Terms of Service?

June 17, 2010 12:37 PM   

Painful to watch. Cringe worthy really. I'm a HUGE Maddow fan. This is the lowest and most embarrassing moment of her career.

Reply | Flag Abuse

Are you sure this comment violates TPM's Terms of Service?

June 17, 2010 12:40 PM   

So what Rachel is suggesting is more of the Unitary Executive thinking supported by Dick Cheney.

Why is that a non-starter?

Reply | Flag Abuse

Are you sure this comment violates TPM's Terms of Service?

June 17, 2010 12:40 PM   

Rachel Maddow has been on top of this issue from the beginning. She has been in the gulf. She has seen the damage. I thought that her "address to the nation" was perfect.

Reply | Flag Abuse

Are you sure this comment violates TPM's Terms of Service?

June 17, 2010 12:59 PM   

You spineless progressives commenting on here are pathetic!. You guys miss the whole point of her tirade. She is basically saying that for actual change to happen you need to start using more forceful language and presenting demands to the legislature. As the right, has ramped up its rhetoric to the point where they feel it is safe to defend a corporation that is openly and continually destroying the environment, the left can't allow these idiots control messaging and the path of legislation, yet some democrats are still on this quixotic mission of bi-partisanship. Now is the time for progressives to press the advantage. Who gives a crap if the right is saying that the President is using this to push some radical agenda, they will say it anyway. So damn the torpedos and go for broke. Democrats should be screaming from the rooftops how the right is holding up progress. Progressive need to realize there is war going on. The war is for the heats and minds of the American idiot.

The biggest lie in Washington and the electorate in general is the "independent" voter. This much sought after group of un-informed dupes who gets swayed by advertisement and political spots. The people who are too lazy to get information on their own and form their own opinions.

Reply | Flag Abuse

Are you sure this comment violates TPM's Terms of Service?

June 17, 2010 1:59 PM    in reply to Ironcomments

Absolutely agreed. Seems to me that we're surrounded by a bunch of sheep who think it's ok to criticize a president only if he's a republican. I want you all to ask yourself if you would still feel that way if it was Bush that gave that speech. Somehow I doubt we'd see the same pathetic excuses of "who does she think she is" and "it's not easy to be in the president's shoes".
So what? Obama is a politician. It's practically his job to set rhetoric in motion. Whether he can or can't pass the law with reconciliation is irrelevant! The point is to mobilize the support of his base, to start the dialogue, to propose an agenda. Politicians make promises they can't keep all the time, but if they at least try to chart a course we could say they tried to do the right thing. Obama's actual speech was the textbook example of playing it safe.

Reply | Flag Abuse

Are you sure this comment violates TPM's Terms of Service?

June 17, 2010 3:29 PM    in reply to maven81

Exactly, the reason people look at both T. Roosevelt and FDR as some of the best progressive presidents is not because they got everything they wanted. It is because they set a tone through their rhetoric that resonated with people and set up and explained an agenda that will do this. They spoke to people as if we were part of the plan and not a bunch of juveniles that needs to have all their "wants" satiated. They would inform the public of what is the overall plan and when opposition came up against the plan, they could instantly take it to the people, i.e. creating national parks, anti-trust laws, social security, wpa.

Reply | Flag Abuse

Are you sure this comment violates TPM's Terms of Service?

June 17, 2010 3:40 PM    in reply to Ironcomments

"You spineless progressives commenting on here are pathetic!. "

what makes you imagine that anyone here criticizing maddow is a progressive??

seems to me the bulk of her critics are some combination of centrists, Democrats, and obama fans. i don't detect any progressives in their ranks.

Reply | Flag Abuse

Are you sure this comment violates TPM's Terms of Service?

June 17, 2010 3:49 PM    in reply to fkaZk0sm0

I stand corrected.

Reply | Flag Abuse

Are you sure this comment violates TPM's Terms of Service?

June 17, 2010 1:15 PM   

God this woman is full of herself.

Reply | Flag Abuse

Are you sure this comment violates TPM's Terms of Service?

June 17, 2010 1:34 PM    in reply to OhioGuy

She has courage to stand up for herself and not hide behind names like OklahomaBob or OhioGuy. This coward in the crowd (me, OklahomaBob) won't even argue with my far-right neighbors. Rachel has courage. I don't even mind if she gets a pronoun wrong occasionally.

Reply | Flag Abuse

Are you sure this comment violates TPM's Terms of Service?

June 17, 2010 1:22 PM   

tragic pronoun mixup at 2:11.

Reply | Flag Abuse

Are you sure this comment violates TPM's Terms of Service?

June 17, 2010 2:52 PM    in reply to tchamp77

Pronoun mixup? Tragic? Who TF cares? Don't let anal be your excuse for missing the message.

Reply | Flag Abuse

Are you sure this comment violates TPM's Terms of Service?

June 17, 2010 3:49 PM    in reply to tchamp77

"When the benefits of drilling accrue to a private company, but the risks of that drilling accrue to we, the american people..."

not tragic. intentional. it's a deliberate choice to echo the phrase "we the people". here it is grammatically incorrect but rhetorically effective.

Reply | Flag Abuse

Are you sure this comment violates TPM's Terms of Service?

aq

user-pic

June 17, 2010 1:31 PM   

If you took out the oval office behind her and the pretense she was the president... Would you care?

No, you'd probably be elated.

Fantasy land aside, don't you armchair quarterback? Man, I wish obama would do this... or do that... or close guantanamo. If I was president, i'd totally do this. Is that immature? Naive? Childish? Hell no. It's armchair quarterbacking, yes, it's not the same thing, and she admits to it. But she says what SHE wants to hear, which, if you're a viewer and supporter, for the most part, thats what You'd want to hear. I want to hear that there's no rock unturned, that we're not only treating the symptoms, but curing the disease of oil addiction in america, that we hold corporations responsible for their actions and the government agencies responsible for holding them responsible... responsible. I want substance, not style. I want results, not promises.

Now if I was President Obama...

Reply | Flag Abuse

Are you sure this comment violates TPM's Terms of Service?

June 17, 2010 3:54 PM    in reply to aq

how dare you!!

plebes and mortals be damned for imagining themselves fit for touching the gilding of obama's robes.

Reply | Flag Abuse

Are you sure this comment violates TPM's Terms of Service?

aq

user-pic

June 17, 2010 5:57 PM    in reply to fkaZk0sm0

I know i can't live up to the standards of high warlord Buscheny... But i can pretend I'm a samurai? CANT I?

At least the message wasn't like, boldface lies...


Reply | Flag Abuse

Are you sure this comment violates TPM's Terms of Service?

June 17, 2010 2:19 PM   

Pitch-perfect. Anger is a gift, as Zach De La Rocha once intoned. Obama, where is the outrage? People want sympathetic emotional response. Even disastrous W hit the right tone at ground zero on September 14.

Reply | Flag Abuse

Are you sure this comment violates TPM's Terms of Service?

June 17, 2010 5:19 PM   

That was truly the speech I wish the President had given. I hope Rachel seriously considers a stint at Presidential speech writing if she ever tires of being one of the very best muckraking reporters on cable tv today.

Reply | Flag Abuse

Are you sure this comment violates TPM's Terms of Service?

June 17, 2010 7:43 PM    in reply to melior

You won't hear this President or any other President for a very long long time give that speech ever if at all. That only happens in a perfect world - not in the real world. People who believe that's possible are whistling in the wind.

Reply | Flag Abuse

Are you sure this comment violates TPM's Terms of Service?

June 18, 2010 10:56 PM   


Best regards for you all,

Looking forward to your visiting.

http://www.shoes2.us/

Reply | Flag Abuse

Are you sure this comment violates TPM's Terms of Service?