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By a dramatic margin, a majority of the country opposes the construction of the so-called "Ground Zero mosque," a new CNN poll finds. According to the new survey, 68% of Americans are against building the Cordoba House, a Muslim community center planned to be constructed two blocks from the former site of the World Trade Center. Twenty-nine percent favor the plan.

As The New Yorker's Hendrik Hertzberg has written, opposition to the Islamic center seems "roughly proportional to distance." While 68% of Americans disapprove of the plan, a recent Marist poll found that 53% of New York City residents disapprove, including only 31% of Manhattan residents.

New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg has come out in favor of the plan, while a number of Republicans nationwide have vocally opposed it.

The CNN poll, which surveyed 1,009 adults, has a margin of error of ±3.0 percentage points.

(h/t The Hill)

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August 11, 2010 2:00 PM   

Sad testimony to the state of American political education.

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August 11, 2010 2:51 PM    in reply to Ignotus

As an American Muslim, I could care less what the hell the "majority" thinks, esp. if they are duly ignorant of one of the world's largest faiths, or if they're ignorant of anyone for that matter outside the borders of the their own town, let alone the country.

The founders purposefully put these 'protections' in the Constitution so that freedom to exercise religion wouldn't be held hostage to some popular "feelings," esp. concerning the visceral fear, bigotry, and plain ignorance regarding Islam.

You'd think having invaded and killed over 500,000 Muslims in so many wars in the ME, Americans and the 'media' would come to know the faintest bit about who they are killing and spreading "democracy to," but you'd be wrong.

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August 11, 2010 5:23 PM    in reply to Tamim

And Muslims are perfect, right? No one is denying that there is quite a bit of demagoguery and latent racism in the wingnuts' opposition to this, but what exactly has the Muslim world done to repudiate the killings of innocents on 9/11, in Bali, London, Mumbai, etc -- all of which were perpetrated by Muslims. The day you concede that there is much wrong with the adherents of your own faith, I will find it within me to respect you or your views.

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August 11, 2010 6:00 PM    in reply to nishant

Just as Christians don't repudiate the actions of the KKK and Operation Rescue when they are involved in terrorist activities.

They have repudiated them but not to the satisfaction of those who hate them

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August 11, 2010 8:47 PM    in reply to Blueline99

Operation Rescue, al qaeda, what's the difference, right?

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August 12, 2010 12:19 AM    in reply to masanf

Right, they both murder innocent people. Neither represents the vast majority of the religion they claim to.

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August 12, 2010 12:30 PM    in reply to nishant

The day you concede that there is much wrong with the adherents of your own faith, I will find it within me to respect you or your views.

And vice versa.

What did Christians do to refudiate the actions of Timothy McVeigh? Or the Atlanta Olympics bomber? Or any of the murderers of abortion doctors?

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August 11, 2010 8:46 PM    in reply to Tamim

Hey, get back to us with your complaints when Islam isn't the most intolerant religion on the face of the earth. Get back to us when Islam isn't stuck in the Dark Ages. Get back to us when 99% of the majority-Muslim countries aren't the most oppressive hellholes on Earth. Get back to us when a new Koran is written, one that doesn't state that Jews, Christian and Women should be treated like second class citizens. And finally get back to us when your 500,000 (are you counting the terrorists in the Taliban and al qaeda)isn't complete and total bullshit.

Sorry, but a Muslim griping about so-called bigotry is like Chris Farley preaching about temperance and the necessity for exercise.

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August 11, 2010 9:28 PM    in reply to masanf

Have you, ahem, read the Bible? There's some ugly stuff in there about who you're supposed to stone to death for what. Has the pope renounced those parts of the Bible? Has any preacher?

The community center prosed for Manhattan is by Sufis! These are the Muslim mystics, roughly equivalent to Unitarians or Quakers. They're the moderates who used to have more influence in Pakistan before the Wahabbi money from the Saudis moved in with its evil. We should be doing everything we can to help the Sufis expand their influence among the Muslim world.

Yes, there's bad stuff among the good in the Koran, maybe even worse than what's in the Bible. But it's only dangerous in the hands of literalists, fundamentalists. The Sufi aren't literalists.

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August 11, 2010 9:45 PM    in reply to wyt

I've read the Koran and the Bible (in two languages), the Bible is a hell of a lot worse. The only reason we're more exposed to radical Islam than radical Christianity is that we forced Christianity out of our politics a long time ago, so the fundamentalists have little to no power.

We did that for a reason, because Christianity with political power was the most violent, intolerant religion on Earth.

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August 11, 2010 10:32 PM    in reply to dtOZONE

Just out of curiosity - what country are you referring to where Christianity has been "forced out of politics?" You're obviously not referring to the US ... right???

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August 11, 2010 11:13 PM    in reply to MariusP

Well yeah, at least up until recently...we have no official state church...think of the Monkey trial.

But also Europe, where the church is no longer a political force.

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August 12, 2010 10:40 AM    in reply to dtOZONE

I think I hear the entire Moral Majority and Religious Right secretly laughing at you.

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August 12, 2010 10:22 AM    in reply to wyt

Actually, yes. There have been a good many "preachers" -- even theologians -- who have renounced parts of the Bible. Martin Luther, for instance, considered Revelation to be "junk scripture" and wanted it yanked from the Bible. What is and is not in the Bible changes depending on what denomination you're looking at. The Bible itself was pulled together through a rather nasty and prolonged argument over what would go in and what would not (a debate that theologians STILL have). Still other assert that the Bible contains both love and hate to force us to choose between the two: Which will form the basis of our morality and spirituality? So you have people like Tony Perkins, Pat Robertson and the Falwells preaching hate, people like Eugene Robinson, Dan Schultz (author of the new book "Changing the Script" -- buy it) and Chuck Currie preaching love.

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August 11, 2010 2:15 PM   

Let's thanks all these stupid ass media outlets for even referring to it as the "Ground Zero Mosque" which it is NOT!

This is really disturbing to me, the fact that so many Americans can be so fucking ignorant and xenophobic.

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August 11, 2010 2:57 PM    in reply to Duck Stab

Also, this is what happens when such a fundamental issue that goes to the very definition of America's rights and freedom, is cowardly bypassed again and again with major politicians esp. the shameful Democrats BEING SILENT on the issue.

The Dems are forfeiting the moral high ground to the right and giving them fodder to go after Muslims, which feeds on itself in a positive feedback making more bigoted people feel their bigotry is not only ok but justified.

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August 11, 2010 3:31 PM    in reply to Duck Stab

It's "disturbing", because it exposes a truth concerning the American people that rational people are simply in denial about.

Read the other responses. Denial everywhere.

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August 11, 2010 4:38 PM    in reply to Duck Stab

I agree. I went through this with the receptionist at my gym who was ranting about this and I asked her if she knew that the site was actually two blocks away. She didn't know that. She is like most dumbed down americans who get their information from misleading headlines or soundbites. When I directed her to information on it she kind of dismissed it and said well I used to work for American Airlines and i knew some of the people on the plane so it upset me.

You cannot teach stupid.

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August 11, 2010 2:19 PM   

Landline telephone research polls, those are so accurate now. I answer my landline every time they call especially when I know its them.

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August 11, 2010 2:20 PM   

So it's none of their damn business, I don't care what those bigots think, and neither does Manhattan, this is a local issue.

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August 11, 2010 2:56 PM    in reply to MrRandom

No, it isn't a local issue. It is a Constitutional issue. It doesn't matter what percentage of anyone anywhere don't get it. It is a Constitutional issue.

And the Constitution says it can be built.

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August 11, 2010 2:24 PM   

New headline; 68% of the people who decided to pick up the landline phone(of whatever percentage of people who actually still own one)after a long day of work say they don't want a mosque built.

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August 11, 2010 2:25 PM   

"As you may know, a group of Muslims in the U.S. plan to build a mosque two blocks from the site
in New York City where the World Trade Center used to stand. Do you favor or oppose this plan?"

That was the question in the poll. I wonder how words and phrases like "a group of Muslims," "mosque" poll. I wonder if the numbers would different is they used the term "Muslim community center." It's a shame that they don't poll with different versions of the polling language. Absent that revision, this poll simply feeds into the fear that some have. It's nonsense.

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August 11, 2010 2:33 PM    in reply to whitesauce

The opinion of 680 individuals is suppose to represent the opinion of over 200 million Americans? Individuals who are the last hold outs of landlines who are the majority elderly and still answer it.

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August 11, 2010 2:34 PM    in reply to whitesauce

It's not nonsense - it's propaganda.

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August 11, 2010 2:36 PM   

I wonder what the outcome of the poll would have been if "I don't care" had been an optional answer. I don't favor or oppose the building of the "mosque". I don't really give a sh*t if they build a mosque, a church, or a Chuck E. Cheese. Actually, I take that last part back. I generally oppose building Chuck E. Cheeses pretty much anywhere, but that would be up to New Yorkers.

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August 12, 2010 7:39 AM    in reply to ADad

I wonder what the result would have been if the question were, "Should the government be able to deny a building permit because it is being built by a non profit, religious organization?"

I'll bet the results would have been quite different. These Teabaggers are all "ANTI BIG GOVERNMENT" ... up until they want to use big government to go and beat up someone THEY don't like.

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August 12, 2010 10:52 AM    in reply to justaJ0e

Right-o.

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August 11, 2010 2:38 PM   

If this poll was conducted online or via cell phones, I am almost certain that the opinions of "Americans" would be vastly different than from the ones that are pushed by Fox junior.

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August 11, 2010 2:46 PM   

All the more reason that it should be built as planned. We cannot have mob rule. What will be next? No synagogues? No Mormon temples? This is a can of worms that should remain closed.

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August 11, 2010 2:48 PM   

"As you may know, a group of AMERICAN CITIZENS in the U.S. plan to build an Islamic COMMUNITY CENTER two blocks from the site
in New York City where the World Trade Center used to stand, and where currently stands A STRIP CLUB, A PORNO SHOP, AND OFF-TRACK BETTING. Do you favor or oppose the community center plan?"

"Next question, did you know that a mosque was built INSIDE THE PENTAGON AFTER 9/11?"

There, fixed.

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August 11, 2010 6:05 PM    in reply to RickS

You have something against strip clubs, porno shops and off-track betting?

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August 12, 2010 10:21 AM    in reply to mans_best_friend

Heck no. Those three got me through my early twenties.

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August 11, 2010 2:49 PM   

I don't know much of the facts about this. Are the members of this would be mosque trying to make some sort of statement by building at this location or is everyone up in arms simply because they are Muslims?

I wonder what is going to happen when someone builds a church in practically the same location. We all know it is going to happen. I wonder if the parishioners and the (insert the muslim word for "parishioners" here) will get along.

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August 11, 2010 9:35 PM    in reply to Darrius

All it has to do with the location is that lower Manhattan's a small place. The WTC site is a large part of it. Anything you build there will be within a few blocks of the WTC site. The Sufi congregation is already in lower Manhattan. They wanted to build a community center in their neighborhood. This was the real estate that was available. Their main financial guy is a millionaire Manhattan real estate developer (also Sufi) who helped them find an available site. Their main advisors were a Jewish organization that runs its own community center farther north. There was not thought at all of this being related to the WTC site.

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August 11, 2010 2:49 PM   

I refuse to listen to one more freakin poll until full demographics behind said poll are released. The people who fueled the Democratic majority that is now in Congress and the White House are young people and black people, both of whom are well known NOT to pick up unknown/private numbers, which most polling stations call from. Corresponding results from these polls are subsequently skewed toward older people, and older Caucasians in particular.

In other words, these polls are crap. F#$k em. Like windowp said, do a poll on facebook or by email about this issue. The results would make Republicans piss their pants.

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August 11, 2010 3:01 PM    in reply to Joekuh

Actually, facebook may not be a good idea. I have seen a lot of right wing bigotry and Christianist hatred on facebook.

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August 11, 2010 3:54 PM    in reply to farnsworth

I agree, but at least on facebook people would have to own up to their bigotry. Sunshine is the best disinfectant!

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August 11, 2010 2:50 PM   

Looking at the sign in the photo, I am thinking, hmmm... America builds Disney Worlds and McDonalds at the sites of our conquests and victories.

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August 11, 2010 2:53 PM   

The rightwing noise machine scores again! Tragic that a majority of this country now wants to trash the first amendment. And, yes, the founding fathers were well aware of the Muslim faith when they decided to protect--absolutely--freedom of religion, despite what Sean Hannity, et al would have you believe. From Jefferson's autobiography (referring to the Constitution of the State of Virginia which was used as a model for the Bill of Rights): "Where the preamble declares that coercion is a departure from the plan of the holy author of our religion, an amendment was proposed, by inserting the word 'Jesus Christ,' so that it should read 'a departure from the plan of Jesus Christ, the holy author of our religion.' The insertion was rejected by a great majority, in proof that they meant to comprehend, within the mantle of its protection, the Jew and the Gentile, the Christian and Mahometan (my note: follower of Muhammed or Muslim), the Hindoo, and infidel of every denomination." (h/t Andrew Sullivan at the Daily Dish)

A 'great majority' of our founding fathers rejected Fox News's premise that freedom of religion in the 1st amendment meant freedom to be a Jew or a gentile. Where is Ted Olson when you need someone to point out that fundamental rights outlined in the Constitution should never be subject to the tyranny of the majority? As he might ask, "Would Fox News like to have their right to purchase land in liberal Manhattan put to a vote?"

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August 11, 2010 3:00 PM    in reply to mmanion

Thank you for that, ironically i made the same point with Ted Olson yesterday ;)

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August 11, 2010 2:59 PM   

Hey, what was the poll on the Iraq invasion? What was the poll number of letting blacks serve in the Military? What was the poll numbers for women's right to vote? Look around you there is churches just blocks away from each other and I don't think Government can't choose nor do I think a vote of the people will hold up in the highest court. It's called Freedom of Religion for a reason.

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August 11, 2010 3:00 PM   

I think the cratering of opposition the closer the respondents are to the site is evidence enough of the influence of ignorance on the result. I also suspect that options of 'don't care' or 'not my business' would be far more popular than favour or oppose.

Still, coupled with the citizenship poll it might indicate latent xenophobia rising. But I suspect the arrangement of these polls helps drive favorable responses. When someone tries to make a controversy, the polls commissioned inevtiably mirror the same perspective used to promote the controversy.

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August 11, 2010 3:02 PM   

Really shabby of CNN to buy into the derp by calling it a "mosque". Visions of soaring minarets and imams chanting. Lies.

The thing is a freakin' YMCA, except replace 'C' with 'I', for cryinoutloud. A Muslim prayer room. It is astounding, and deeply worrisome, that the national debate can be so far from the facts of the case.

The only shabbier thing is the number of pusillanimous 'leaders' who will join in the mob lynching of the First Amendment, based on this poll (and the general level of wharrgarbl surrounding this issue).

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August 11, 2010 3:09 PM   

It makes sense that so many Americans oppose the mosque/community center. Ground Zero is a site of national tragedy that had everything to do with Islam and religious fundamentalists. So building an islamic site so close just looks ugly, even if they have every right to do so. Perceptions do matter.
What if Daimler Benz decided to build a factory half a mile from Auschwitz? Maybe current Daimler Benz has nothing to do with extremism, but observing that logo in both locations would just leave a really bad impression.
The mosque developers should have some sense and move it to another location. It's not just a New York issue - it's a national issue because it's related to a national tragedy.

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August 11, 2010 3:23 PM    in reply to jwebbsj

It only makes sense for the From the New Yorker article:

Ah, the “Ground Zero mosque.” Well, for a start, it won’t be at Ground Zero. It’ll be on Park Place, two blocks north of the World Trade Center site (from which it will not be visible), in a neighborhood ajumble with restaurants, shops (electronics, porn, you name it), churches, office cubes, and the rest of the New York mishmash. Park51, as it is to be called, will have a large Islamic “prayer room,” which presumably qualifies as a mosque. But the rest of the building will be devoted to classrooms, an auditorium, galleries, a restaurant, a memorial to the victims of September 11, 2001, and a swimming pool and gym. Its sponsors envision something like the 92nd Street Y—a Y.M.I.A., you might say, open to all, including persons of the C. and H. persuasions.

If anyone should have some sense, it's you.

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August 11, 2010 3:36 PM    in reply to a4638809

*It only makes sense for the ignorant

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August 11, 2010 7:23 PM    in reply to jwebbsj

It strikes me that people call for Muslims to stand up and speak out against the extremists in their religion. Shouldn't the same be expected of us? Now I am sure they wouldn't call themselves extremists but rather super patriots. On the other side(Muslim) the same thing takes place. Grasping that is called perspective.
Americas values are freedom of religion and no abrogation nor endorsement from the state.
Letting them build it makes us look large. Forbidding it makes us look small. Remember if terrorism is a big part of this discussion nothing could be truer than if you are afraid they win.

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August 11, 2010 3:15 PM   

It's not a mosque, it's not at Ground Zero... what was the problem again?

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August 11, 2010 3:19 PM   

My reaction to this idiotic poll is: so what? It really doesn't matter that an uninformed public doesn't approve of a zoning matter in New York City that is none of their business and which they neither understand or really care about. This is about as false an issue as there could be. We don't take polls on who gets to own property and we don't take them to decide what a property owner does with their property. This whole flap is moronic and demonstrates only one thing: it's easy to get people to admit to their own bigotry and ignorance in the USA.

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August 11, 2010 3:21 PM   

Oh egads, another poll that has nothing to do with reality. If we had a poll last year, would we have said that Wall Street needs to close it's doors?

Where was the poll that asked what we thought should happen to the Catholic Church for protecting pedofiles...should they be allowed to build / re-build near the 9/11 site?

You can poll the American public to death, but if you asked the question: Should a land owner be allowed to do whatever the heck they want on that land, does anyone really believe that they would say YES?

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August 11, 2010 3:35 PM   

68% puts it well outside of the margin of error and that makes me sad for what this nation has become - a bunch of chickenshit know-nothings. And it shouldn't matter if the fucking thing was a full-blown mosque being built right across the street from the hole in the ground...if the people who want to build it and it's not prohibited by local zoning, they can build whatever the fuck they want.

That said, the real question should be, "Even though the building of this center/mosque on the proposed site is legal, do you think government should take steps to prevent its construction?", because whether or not you like it or not is irrelevant because a) it's legal and b) neither Bloomberg nor Obama nor Boehner nor St. John McCain can do anything about it short of passing new legislation to stop it or by issuing some sort of executive order (Bloomberg/Obama), both of which would almost certainly be ruled un-Constitutional by the courts. If a majority answer "yes" to that question then I would be very, very worried for the future of our society because more than half of this country would be saying, "Well, fuck our Constitution and laws....brown people scare me!"

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August 11, 2010 3:40 PM    in reply to ogliberal

Anyone want to bet that the people who would answer "yes" to that question (about the government taking steps to prevent its construction) would also claim to be in favor of "small government"?

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August 11, 2010 3:46 PM    in reply to Kristin126

You can bet your ass that 75% or more of the tea baggers would want Obama to personally step in and stop the construction of this mosque, using military force if necessary. They're probably already making "Stop the Mosque, Obama!" and "Obama Won't Stop the Mosque Because He's One of Them" signs.

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August 11, 2010 3:38 PM   

Is there a "New Yorkers" only poll?

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August 11, 2010 3:39 PM   

Is there a "New Yorkers" only poll?

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August 11, 2010 3:57 PM   

Facts: It is not a ground zero
It doesn't matter what the polls say, the issue should not and will not be decided by a poll

Most Americans Aged 24-35 do not have a land line phone but rather use their cell phone as their primary phone. Most polling is done using landlines. One could come to the assumption that all this poll reveals is that their is a high level of ignorance among those who have landlines (primarily those above the age of 35), and that even though religious freedom is enshrined in our constitution many feel that the public should decide where people should worship.

PS these polls are crap on a number of levels, polling only takes us so far in understanding the issue. But this issue is a local issue and frankly I think most American would agree that they don't want an outside authority deciding how things should be done in their own personal neck of the woods. In fact this sort of sentiment is supposed to be central to libertarian and conservative thinking. Therefore I think what this poll truly reveals even if it is just a peek behind the curtain is that Americans as whole seemed to be uncertain of their history, uncertain of their foundations, uncertain of their US Constitution and generally ignorant of what trials it has been put through to reach the heights it has. I look upon the Revolution, the underground railroad, the abolishing of slavery, Civil rights, Labor laws, Food and Drug Administration standards, entrepreneurial enterprises from among to name a few as the highlights of America and it's people. I know it's just a poll but seriously the sad state of our culture and this recession added to the mix makes one depressed just to come here and read ignorant crap like this.

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August 11, 2010 4:00 PM   

Yet 90% of those, if taking a trip to NYC in the future to see a Broadway show, would find the time to travel down to Ground Zero to have their picture taken in front of such a mosque were it to be built. :-) (Michael Bloomberg decided to leave "and furthermore, all publicity is good publicity" out of his speech 'cause people already think he is too mercenary.)

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August 11, 2010 4:37 PM   

Here is the real rub in this. If tea-baggers and other knuckle draggers actually were patriotic and in a rage they would have been using it to have the 9/11 monument built by now.

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August 11, 2010 4:59 PM   

Awesome! Do I get to oppose the building of new churches too while I'm at it?

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August 11, 2010 5:01 PM   

No one under the age of 35 was polled on this question, or any others in their poll.

On one set of questions about gay marriage, no one under the age of 50 was questioned.

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August 11, 2010 5:11 PM   

As a NON-Muslim American, I would just like to extend my sincerest apologies to the Muslims who have commented. It is a sad - and disturbingly ironic - commentary on Americans that so many are so easily led to uniformly condemn the entirety of one of the world's major religions.

There is every justification for seething with an anger beyond words at the attacks of September the 11th. But to equate the acts of barbarism committed by a select few of a particular faith WITH THE FAITH ITSELF, and vilify a group of about 1.5 BILLION people as if they are all guilty because they share the faith of those responsible is treacherously unfair, wholly without cause and, quite frankly, completely counter to the principles of America.

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August 11, 2010 5:11 PM   

As a NON-Muslim American, I would just like to extend my sincerest apologies to the Muslims who have posted. It is a sad - and disturbingly ironic - commentary on Americans that so many are so easily led to uniformly condemn the entirety of one of the world's major religions.

There is every justification for seething with an anger beyond words at the attacks of September the 11th. But to equate the acts of barbarism committed by a select few of a particular faith WITH THE FAITH ITSELF, and vilify a group of about 1.5 BILLION people as if they are all guilty because they share the faith of those responsible is treacherously unfair, wholly without cause and, quite frankly, completely counter to the principles of America.

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August 11, 2010 8:55 PM    in reply to MariusP

Can we please can the bullshit about Islam being the Religion of Peace and all the nonsense about how "that isn't how Islam really is". Islam doesn't teach its adherents to love your enemy like you do yourself. It teaches that all non-Muslims are second-class citizens. It teaches that jihad is necessary against the non-believer. Islam is inherently intolerant and incompatible with free societies. THE FAITH ITSELF teaches that a man, Muhammad, who slaughtered his enemies and enslaved and subjugated those he allowed to live, is the ultimate example of how men should act.

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August 11, 2010 9:43 PM    in reply to masanf

That's bullshit. Islam does not teach any of that. FUNDAMENTALIST Islam does.

But FUNDAMENTALIST Christians, like the teachers I had growing up, also teach us that Jews killed Jesus and are less than human.

betcha didn't know that, did ya?

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August 11, 2010 9:44 PM    in reply to masanf

Jesus said "I come with the sword." He said to leave your families behind to follow Him. And his followers took so seriously the blaming of the Jews for the crucifixion that the Catholic Church was an enthusiastic collaborator in the Holocaust. The Islamic world, by contrast, was fully tolerant of Jews over many centuries in which European countries regularly ran them out or forcibly converted them. Islamic cultures also supported the sciences through centuries in which Europe suppressed them.

That witch who lives down the street? Do you suffer her to live? If so, do you call yourself a good Christian?

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August 12, 2010 11:27 AM    in reply to masanf

I assume, therefore, that at minimum you are denouncing the first 9 Crusades, as well as any Christian who has taken up a sword in the name of Christ.

Speaking of the Crusades, we're coming up on the anniversary of the start of the First Crusade (15 August 1096). Oddly, during the Siege of Jerusalem by the "good guys" (the Franks, as ordained by Pope Urban II)), the Jews fought along-side the Muslims to repel the "liberators". Unfortunately, things got messy, one thing led to another, and on 15 July 1099, the crusaders got into the city, killed all of the Jewish and Muslim civilians, and pretty much destroyed the city (including those nasty mosques). The success of the noble Christian crusaders can be attributed, in part, to the strength some had gained by eating Muslims that they had killed during the Siege of Maarrat on their way to reclaim Jerusalem for Jesus. Sadly, things got barbaric during the later crusades. But Christians were different then, and nowadays, Christians don't invade countries in the Middle-East, kill innocent Muslim civilians, or carry out acts of barbarity. After all, that wouldn't be a very good way to spread the Good News. The word "Crusade" reminds me of another word that starts with "C". What is it? Oh yes, "Conquistador". I believe they were Christians also, at least judging from the number of priests that accompanied them on their travels.

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August 12, 2010 12:40 PM    in reply to ADad

Bam!

Also, Christian Crusaders were promised entrance into heaven for killing Muslims.

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August 12, 2010 2:50 PM    in reply to Angry McAngus

In the immortal words of Johnny Carson, "I did not know that".

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August 11, 2010 6:05 PM   

In North Carolina in the 60's the state refuse to revoke a law that banned inter-racial marriages.

They claimed that 90% of the public wanted to keep the law on the books and it was a local/state issue.

Well, just think how stupid these people are going to feel 50 years from now...I bet if you polled North Carolinans under the age of 30 about inter-racial marriage that 90% would be on the other side of the poll.

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August 11, 2010 10:13 PM   

So I guess, by definition, that makes those who support it out of the mainstream and maybe even extremists.

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August 12, 2010 2:57 AM   

If Americans southern states had been polled in the 19th century, 99% would have supported slavery.

It's foolish to go by polls when you have a population that is , to a high degree, uninformed, unenlightened, narrow-minded, ignorant, bigoted and xenophobic.

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August 12, 2010 8:40 AM   

If this trend continues it won't be long before we're just like the people who attacked us. Morons.

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August 12, 2010 9:17 AM   

The vast majority of people are intentionally misinformed about the Manhattan community center. I've been told its right across the street from the WTC and it will be dedicated to the high jackers on 9/11/11. I was told this at a wedding by sincere, non wing nut type folks.

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August 12, 2010 10:51 AM   

Peaceful Americans, plz refudiate.

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