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Daily Show correspondent John Oliver said last night that people are right to oppose the planned Cordoba House, the so-called "Ground Zero mosque," because "Islam, like every religion, has to be responsible for its biggest assholes."

Oliver added that there is also "a difference between what you can do and what you should do. For instance, you can build a Catholic church next to a playground. Should you?"

Jon Stewart also took a look at Glenn Beck's coverage of the Cordoba House, and of Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf, executive director of the Cordoba House Initiative. Beck attacked Rauf for saying that "United States policies were an accessory to the crime" of 9/11.

Stewart asked what kind of "America-hating extremist monster would say something so profoundly evil?"

Cut to Beck just a few months earlier: "Did we deserve 9/11? No. But were we minding our business? No. Were we in bed with dictators and abandon our values and principles? Yes. That causes problems."

"What will he think tomorrow?" Stewart asked.

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August 17, 2010 10:14 AM   

It's okay when white christians criticize our government, just not brown muslims...oh wait, unless you're white Christian women (see: Dixie Chicks) or white Christian Democrats (see: Howard Dean) or basically any white Christian who disagrees with the xenophobic Christian right-wingers.

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August 17, 2010 12:26 PM    in reply to kctex

It's OK for brown Muslims to kill homosexuals and to abuse women, as long as they also share liberals' antipathy to America. But Christians (who send missionaries to Afghanistan to treat poor [mostly Muslim] people there) are a real "threat" to our country and should be banished from any participation in public life. That is the clear portrait of liberals that American citizens are seeing on a daily basis. November is not going to be pretty for Democrats.

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August 17, 2010 12:51 PM    in reply to acriticalthinker

LOL!! Wow, every conservative talking point in one paragraph!!! Holy cow is that funny! Way to generalize there genious!

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August 17, 2010 1:07 PM    in reply to acriticalthinker

You do know that missionaries are trying to convert people to their religion right? You know, conquering the infidels and all.

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August 17, 2010 3:23 PM    in reply to ohyeathatsright

The missionaries in Afghanistan were simply ministering to the human needs of the Afghan people. They knew you can't directly try to convert Muslims (that is a killing offense in Muslim countries). In other countries, missionaries do actually try to convert people-----freely and voluntarily not under threat of death as some Muslims do. See the difference?

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August 17, 2010 4:50 PM    in reply to acriticalthinker

Look up the word missionary.

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August 17, 2010 11:37 PM    in reply to acriticalthinker

Under threat of going to hell for the rest of eternity. That sounds coercive enough to me. If it isn't to you it means that you don't believe your religion.

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August 17, 2010 11:56 PM    in reply to acriticalthinker

"It's OK for brown Muslims to kill homosexuals and to abuse women..."

Sure, because things such as manifest destiny, the crusades, the holocaust, the inquisition, the dark ages, the KKK, and other countless Christian based groups have NEVER done that in the past or continue to spread racism, sexism, homophobia, xenophobia and good-ole-fashioned bigotry. Ah, revisionist history at its finest.

"...as long as they also share liberals' antipathy to America."

You know, the more the right rears it's head, the more I move from the middle to the left. I would rather have antipathy then hatred, hypocrisy and ignorance. But I guess that's all relative for you.

"But Christians (who send missionaries to Afghanistan to treat poor [mostly Muslim] people there) are a real "threat" to our country and should be banished from any participation in public life."

Really, the same missionaries that they sent to other countries to "humanize" the savages. While I am an atheist, I don't like religion, but hey, if that's what make you feel good at the end of the day, pray all you want. BTW, those missionaries did a really good job bringing the savages of Africa into the modern world, didn't they?

"That is the clear portrait of liberals that American citizens are seeing on a daily basis. November is not going to be pretty for Democrats."

I see you haven't strayed from your typical projection and misrepresentation of groups. I know it's easy to paint with such a broad brush, but I think that you need some other colors in your repertoire besides black and white.

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August 18, 2010 12:27 AM    in reply to Hobbes83

Hobbes

Long time no see. Good luck on the start of law school at LSU.

I don't have a lot of time now, but I thought I would respond to a couple of things.

1. Yes, there was a time when (professed) Christians were involved in true atrocities. BUT....you need to get out of the Middle Ages and into the 21st century. I haven't noticed any major atrocities by fringe Christians, let alone atrocities that are done in the name of Christ OR with tacit approval of Christian leaders. Any of the things you mentioned are far outside the core of Christian teachings and morality.

2. As to moving from the "middle" to the "left"----that brought a smile to my face! From previous discussions with you I would put you firmly in the camp of what Gibbs called the "professional left". You know, the folks who want Canadian style health care....today. Military budget reduced to zero or close to it. And a lefty like Kucinich as President (well, maybe not Kucinich....he is too "moderate" for true lefties). Maybe I misjudge you, but if you could not have Obama as Pres. who would be your top choice?

3. I said "But Christians (who send missionaries to Afghanistan to treat poor [mostly Muslim] people there) are a real "threat" to our country and should be banished from any participation in public life. That is the clear portrait of liberals that American citizens are seeing on a daily basis."

Do you deny that that IS the view of many (if not a majority) on the left? Why is it that many liberals jump all over and oppose participation of Christians in the political and educational life of Americans, but the same liberals are all in favor of free expression of religion by Muslims? You don't see that? Come on, now Hobbes.

I also said "November is not going to be pretty for Democrats."
That is a no-brainer. That's like standing near the Gulf in New Orleans before Katrina hit and predicting the N.O. was going to get a major soaking. It just takes minimal powers of observation and the ability to accept reality. Are you projecting Dem pick-ups or just minimal losses in Nov.? If so, be bold and I will save your prognostications to pull out on November 3. As I have said before, the thing about reality is that it eventually trumps fantasy----not that I am saying that YOU inhabit fantasyland, but clearly many here do.

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August 18, 2010 1:29 AM    in reply to acriticalthinker

Point of clarification, please. Is it also okay for black and white Muslims to kill homosexuals and abuse women, or do they get in big trouble for that?

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August 17, 2010 10:42 AM   

If you object to members of a religion who committed terrorism on Americans on US soil, try Baptists who were members of the KKK.

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August 17, 2010 3:27 PM    in reply to dick_data

You mean people like Robert KKK Byrd? Yeah, I object to members of any religion (or irreligion or anti-religion) who committed or commit terrorism on U.S. citizens on U.S. soil---or anywhere.

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August 17, 2010 5:11 PM    in reply to acriticalthinker

Excellent. SoSad69 was wrong in saying that you covered "every conservative talking point" in your earlier comment. Now you've added another. Please continue.

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August 18, 2010 12:02 AM    in reply to acriticalthinker

"You mean people like Robert KKK"

Yes, the old 'you've got a racist in your party!" meme that is so old and tired. What a fallacy to say that how a person acts when they are younger is how they turn out in the future. What's the point of releasing prisoners if that's the case? It has been noted several times in all types of publications and personal interviews that former Sen. Byrd regretted the things that he did in the past, just as you or I regret things that we have done in our past, but I guess that goes with the whole meme "we want to take our country back(wards)."

"Yeah, I object to members of any religion (or irreligion or anti-religion) who committed or commit terrorism on U.S. citizens on U.S. soil---or anywhere."

Then where are you to repudiate claims and support victims of bigotry? My memory is a little shot right now, but I don't remember seeing you speak ill of Mark Williams. Put your money where your mouth is and show that you condemn actions like this. The government shouldn't be allowed to tell someone what to do with their private property if they pose no threat to the well-being of their surrounding countrymen, and the Cordoba House is no different.

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August 18, 2010 12:35 AM    in reply to Hobbes83

You took me to task for reminding dick_data of Robert Byrd and his days in the KKK (admittedly as a young lad).

I brought that up in reply to dick's comment that "If you object to members of a religion who committed terrorism on Americans on US soil, try Baptists who were members of the KKK."

Isn't dick's comment ALSO (and prior to) my "'you've got a racist in your party!" meme" that you characterized as "so old and tired. What a fallacy to say that how a person acts when they are younger is how they turn out in the future."

I was just trying to make the same point you were making---that dick was simply trotting out the "old you've got racists/bigots/hate-mongers" on your side meme by holding up to him the mirror image counterpart to his tired charge.

I would say we are in agreement. On that note I will say goodnight.

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August 17, 2010 11:15 AM   

Cue sputtering outrage from Bill Donohue in 3 . . . 2 . . . 1.

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August 17, 2010 11:26 AM    in reply to Sanjiv

Only a matter of time.

But, I mean, you wouldn't stop a parish from being built next to playground, just like you wouldn't stop a mosque from being built. Right? Right Bill?

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August 17, 2010 11:20 AM   

Let them build their Mosque,....we need to get beyond this stupid issue. It's just another phony patriotism stunt by the republican talking heads.

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August 17, 2010 12:14 PM    in reply to absurdity 007

We have real problems that could wipe us out and the republicans have us talking about this worthless issue. The far right has not solutions so they keep us talking about BS.

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August 17, 2010 12:14 PM    in reply to absurdity 007

We have real problems that could wipe us out and the republicans have us talking about this worthless issue. The far right has not solutions so they keep us talking about BS.

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August 17, 2010 11:32 AM   

One of the things that's being missed by the GOP nay sayers to the Islamic Center is that a lot of those killed on the ground were foreign nationals and that a number were Muslims. And of course the overwhelming number of those killed by terrorists in Iraq and Afghanistan are also Muslims.

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August 17, 2010 12:12 PM    in reply to ejg3

There is so much being missed by the GOP that it's a wonder they remember to get dressed in the morning. Like, for instance, the Constitution? Oh, right, that's only for America-haters like the ACLU.

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August 17, 2010 2:54 PM    in reply to ejg3

Also, the First Amendment and stuff.

Any other argument is a distraction. It doesn't matter how many of what religion were killed on 9-11, or whether there's already another mosque in the area.

We have freedom of religion in America. That's all you need to know.

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August 17, 2010 4:51 PM    in reply to ejg3

Yeah, Muslim extremists are equal opportunity killers. At least they don't discriminate! That is one good point in their favor! It's great to know that they have equal disrespect for life toward all races, nationalities, and religions.

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August 17, 2010 5:13 PM    in reply to acriticalthinker

You're slipping. You wrote "muslim extremists" when a simple "muslims" would have sufficed. Keep those talking points straight, please.

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August 17, 2010 12:05 PM   

There is already a Catholic church and another old Christian church withing 2 blocks. Both of these are closer than the Islamic community center, it is not a mosque, would be.

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August 17, 2010 12:31 PM    in reply to Spyder308

Did Catholics fly jets into the WTC? Do elements of the Catholic Church advocate destruction of the U.S. or any other country? Sometimes I am overwhelmed by the idiocy I see here from liberals.

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August 17, 2010 3:48 PM    in reply to acriticalthinker

So, how much of the Constitution and Bill of Rights should we throw away in the name of, uh, what is it the United States is a beacon for around the world?

Gosh, seems to me it was

FREEDOM?

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August 17, 2010 4:20 PM    in reply to Lizskin

We don't have to dispose of ANY of the Bill of Rights----including the right of freedom of speech of people (including possibly the President and other influential people) who might express their disapproval of building a mosque there, along with explanations of WHY they disapprove, and perhaps even proposals of creative alternatives such as Gov. Patterson (a Democrat---see, I can praise a Democrat on a rare occasion of doing something that makes sense) has made.

So, it is possible for everyone to exercise their freedoms in a responsible and sensitive way. It is even possible for Muslims to exercise THEIR freedom to exercise their freedom of religion and property rights (try that in Iran or Saudi Arabia!!) in an IRRESPONSIBLE and INSENSITIVE way, if they insist. They will not be barred from doing so, as Christians or other non-Muslims would be in Muslim countries.

We CAN all "get along" if everyone is exercising their freedoms with respect for each other and good will. All it takes is to put their "critical thinking" caps on.

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August 17, 2010 5:14 PM    in reply to acriticalthinker

Responsible and sensitive way?

I wonder where those two descriptions should have existed this past year.

Oh yea, when people were bringing guns to health debates.

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August 17, 2010 5:16 PM    in reply to acriticalthinker

Based on your gravatar, I would say that the only critical thinking you do is on the toilet.

By the way, isn't it time for you to stop taking that dump already? OR is the diarrhea that bad?

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August 17, 2010 4:17 PM    in reply to acriticalthinker

Did "Islam" fly jets into buildings on 9/11? If you extend the 19 hijackers and their support network of perhaps a few hundred people to the 1.5 billion Muslims, you have just handed Osama & Co. a major victory. They WANT to portray 9/11 as a struggle between all Muslims and the West. I think that having a mosque/cultural center near 9/11--as there is in the freaking Pentagon already--to be one of the greatest mindfucks we could employ against the extremists.

The vast majority of the world's Muslims are so far sitting out the clash of civilization that Osama bin Ladin hopes to foment. If you want to ensure he succeeds with his campaign, just keep supporting idiocy like opposing the construction of a Mosque. You can violate our own constitution AND help the terriorists--a real two-fer for the loony right.

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August 17, 2010 4:47 PM    in reply to h0db

"I think that having a mosque/cultural center near 9/11--as there is in the freaking Pentagon already--to be one of the greatest mindfucks we could employ against the extremists."

You may be right. On the other hand, Muslims could also pull off a Mindf*** by showing some good will and respect for American sensibilities. If Muslims who want to build there insist on their way, Americans will accept it though.

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August 18, 2010 12:51 AM    in reply to acriticalthinker

the muslims building the mosque ARE americans with american sensibilities you freaking BIGOT.

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August 17, 2010 12:06 PM   

There is already a Catholic church and another old Christian church withing 2 blocks. Both of these are closer than the Islamic community center, it is not a mosque, would be.

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August 17, 2010 12:21 PM   

Leave it to liberals to somehow equate building a Catholic church next to a playground with Muslims building a 13 story "cultural center" and mosque on the site of a building near the WTC site (by the way, the building on which the mosque is proposed to be built was hit by the landing gear of Mohammed Atta's jet).

It WILL NOT be long, I suppose before liberals DO object to buildings housing CHRISTIAN churches or charitable operations. But we can also expect liberals to reliably and forcefully stand up for the rights of religions that are connected with the goal of destroying America (which goal liberals also share).

This is not about first amendment rights. Of course Muslims have the RIGHT to build anywhere within applicable zoning or other laws and regulations. The question is whether MUSLIMS should exercise some sensitivity and good will and build their cultural center and mosque a more respectful distance from the WTC site.

How about this scenario, liberals:

The KKK wants to build a cultural and historical center near the motel where Martin Luther King was killed. Do you say, the have the constitutional right to build it whereever they want or do you say that Obama, Reid, and everyone else should not only strongly suggest that the KKK build elsewhere, but that the KKK should not be allowed to build ANYWHERE?

Obama and Dems (and everyone, including Muslim leaders) should read this and follow this example: http://online.wsj.com/article/NA_WSJ_PUB:SB10001424052748704271804575405330350430368.html

It shows the way of demonstrating REAL leadership on the part of both American and Muslim leaders.

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August 17, 2010 12:29 PM    in reply to acriticalthinker

There is already a Mosque with 4 blocks of the WTC which has been there for over 50 years. This is plainly and simply a political stunt filled with fake outrage. The building is an abandoned Burlington Coat Factory retail outlet... it's not hallowed ground... have you seen pictures of the neighborhood?

Liberals were just trying to point out the absurdity and offensiveness of saying that Islam does not equate to Al Qaeda, just like Catholicism does not equate to pedophilia.

But obviously you didn't get the joke.

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August 17, 2010 1:06 PM    in reply to acriticalthinker

Dude, your logic is way past goofy. All the permits have been approved by local government. YOU don't think it's a good idea, but what can YOU do about it besides snort and bluster? Do you expect someone who has been trying to complete a project to simply stop because Mr. Critical Thinker says they should quit? If they have the right to build, which you admit, then what else is involved? Not affronting your sensibilities counts for nothing. It's not measurable, it's not definable, and it's not supportable. It is vapor. Which is why we have a constitution in the first place. Our founding fathers foresaw the small minds of silly thinkers who would froth and fulminate over the issues of the day without any context or continuity.

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August 17, 2010 3:59 PM    in reply to Roma Victors

"YOU don't think it's a good idea, but what can YOU do about it besides snort and bluster? Do you expect someone who has been trying to complete a project to simply stop because Mr. Critical Thinker says they should quit? If they have the right to build, which you admit, then what else is involved?"

You libs just don't get it do you. I am not vehemently opposed to a mosque there, but a LOT of relatives of 9-11 victims, New Yorkers, and Americans everywhere are strongly opposed to it. I don't expect them to stop because I, Mr. Critical Thinker, say they should quit (which I am not saying anyway). If they have a right to build it what else is involved? This is what else is involved: leadership by our President (he might follow the lead of Dem Gov. Patterson, who suggested that the mosque be built somewhere else out of sensitivity to Americans to the symbolism of a mosque being built so close to the WTC site and even suggested that the state would arrange an alternate site) and use his bully pulpit and behind the scenes diplomacy to inform Muslim leaders of the perceived insensitivity of building the mosque there and appeal to THEIR good will to build somewhere else as Pope John Paul did with the Auschwitz nuns. http://online.wsj.com/article/NA_WSJ_PUB:SB10001424052748704271804575405330350430368.html

Muslims and Americans could go a long way to establishing good relations if Americans recognize the right of Muslims to build a mosque in the U.S. (note Christian churches are entirely forbidden in many Muslim countries) and Muslims exercise some sensitivity by not building a 13 story monument within sight of the WTC. What is so hard about some leadership by our political leaders and Muslim religious leaders? It could be a major win-win for everyone.

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August 17, 2010 1:12 PM    in reply to acriticalthinker

The KKK is a terrorist organization. Just like Al Qaida.

The KKK is also filled mostly with people who identify as Christians. However you don't see liberals equating the KKK with Christianity as you're trying to do with Al Qaida and Muslims.

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August 17, 2010 12:27 PM   

I wish there were tapes from the time when Stewart and Weiner shared a place. The conversations would be the most high-energy, outrageous expressions of clear-headed American ideas.

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August 17, 2010 4:56 PM    in reply to FellowAmerican

I am with you except substitute "empty headed" for "clear headed".

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August 17, 2010 7:20 PM    in reply to acriticalthinker

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHH!!!!!11!!!1

p.s.

Fuck off.

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August 17, 2010 12:40 PM   

"The KKK wants to build a cultural and historical center near the motel where Martin Luther King was killed. Do you say, the have the constitutional right to build it whereever they want or do you say that Obama, Reid, and everyone else should not only strongly suggest that the KKK build elsewhere, but that the KKK should not be allowed to build ANYWHERE?"

Your analogy is flawed as the Muslim community does not equate to the KKK. If Al Queda wanted to build a mosque there, that would make sense. Since you equate all Muslims with extremists and terrorists, you need to excuse yourself because of your obvious prejudices.

There is already a Islamic place of worship three blocks north of the WTC site. Would you recommend it be removed?

To fear a mosque because it MAY breed extremism is a fine example of fear-mongering xenophobia. If I were to be this fearful and hysterical, I would protest future Catholic churches for the possible sexual harm done to children who walk past it.

You'll find that most of the complainers 1) have little knowledge of normal practicing Muslims in the United States and 2) don't live in New York. Frankly I'm sick of New York being chastised by the right except when they need to use it as a precious symbol for their shallow patriotic caterwauling.

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August 17, 2010 1:47 PM   

"The KKK wants to build a cultural and historical center near the motel where Martin Luther King was killed. Do you say, the have the constitutional right to build it whereever they want or do you say that Obama, Reid, and everyone else should not only strongly suggest that the KKK build elsewhere, but that the KKK should not be allowed to build ANYWHERE?"

That is not an equal comparison... The equal comparison would be:

"The local Catholics want to build a Community Center -- containing a Church, but open to people of all faiths -- 2 blocks from the motel where MLK was assassinated. Do you say, the have the constitutional right to build it whereever they want or do you say that everyone should not only strongly suggest that the Catholics build elsewhere, but that the Catholics should not be allowed to build ANYWHERE?"

And what would the answer be? The same as it should be now -- "OF COURSE THEY SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO BUILD IT."

They have the same rights to build it as I have the right to say you are an ignorant ass. You may not like that I said it, and not everyone may agree with it, but I have the RIGHT to say it (but should I?).

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August 17, 2010 3:55 PM   

Is it OK to build Christian churches in Oklahoma City?

...just curious,

Jack

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August 17, 2010 5:08 PM   

Ah, it seemed like just yesterday when sex abuse charges was filling the air. How soon we forget or we have a limited attention span...
Pope Begs Forgiveness, Promises Action on Abuse
Pope Benedict has begged forgiveness for abuses by priests, and vowed to "do everything possible" to protect children. He made his comments publicly Friday at a mass to celebrate the end of the Year of the Priest. http://www.newslook.com/videos/219939-pope-begs-forgiveness-promises-action-on-abuse?autoplay=true

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August 17, 2010 5:21 PM    in reply to ejreed

I will not rest until the Catholic Church is prevented from building any more of their pedophile-recruiting stations closer than 1 mile away from any and all schools.

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August 17, 2010 7:08 PM   

The problem, obviously, is that New Yorkers just don't know anything about how to run a big city.

If only they had known, earlier, to call in consultants from Cobb County, Georgia, and Wasilla, Alaska, to advise them on the essentials of local control, none of this would have happened.

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